Rome Legionary

[Alexandermb]

Then we have this, and the sheath for the gladius with the prop point in the sheath for carry resources animations. I know the actual gameplay for the citizen soldier's are don't have any military props while working but for me it breaks inmersión the skyrim like weapons poping up from no where at least in a sheath we know he stored the sword in the sheath and then retrieve it.

[sphyrth]

Dang! I prefered the Mainz variation. That's the "variety" I'm looking for, though. Mainz, Fulham, and Pompeii were used roughly at the same time. But that's too arbitrary as players generally won't look up that close to see the difference anyway.

[Alexandermb]

  On 22/12/2017 at 4:46 AM, sphyrth said:

Dang! I prefered the Mainz variation. That's the "variety" I'm looking for, though. Mainz, Fulham, and Pompeii were used roughly at the same time. But that's too arbitrary as players generally won't look up that close to see the difference anyway.

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We have Mainz

[Alexandermb]

Should i make the gladiator idle escene animation for the centurio ?

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

  On 22/12/2017 at 5:04 AM, Alexandermb said:

We have Mainz

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I think he could be a little more hunched, his knees a little more bent, looking a little more "ready" for action, if that's what you're trying to convey.

[Alexandermb]

  On 22/12/2017 at 5:48 AM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I think he could be a little more hunched, his knees a little more bent, looking a little more "ready" for action, if that's what you're trying to convey.

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Actually for the romans legion i want to show less ready for action, and more discipline look, there is no much difference between the centurio and the legion animation i've made the problem with the ready animation is that every faction use it, while the roman and other units should have unique animations based on their formations/armour/shields/weapons/faction; i couldn't imagine gauls or britons making something like a Testudo or the way the roman soldiers gathered around Maximo/Commodus in the video i linked.

[Alexandermb]

More like this, they are marching yet they are not ready for action stance but a mix between Ready/Rest.

[av93]

BTW, ready stance is implemented?

Edited December 22, 2017 by av93

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

  On 22/12/2017 at 6:09 AM, Alexandermb said:

the problem with the ready animation is that every faction use it

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That is the point. The point is to easily identify the unit type at a glance, and semi-uniform animations are supposed to help that happen. 

[Sundiata]

I think Roman legionaries deserve a more unique stance, no? They're so iconic, just like their military rigour and discipline. Plus they're easily the most identifiable unit anyway, I think. 

[Alexandermb]

[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 22/12/2017 at 11:46 AM, Sundiata said:

I think Roman legionaries deserve a more unique stance, no? They're so iconic, just like their military rigour and discipline. Plus they're easily the most identifiable unit anyway, I think. 

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You mean this? the marching

 

[Alexandermb]

[Lion.Kanzen]

That isn't testudo.

Is anti cavalry tactic.

http://norbertodebuenosaires.blogspot.com/2015/05/formaciones-tacticas-del-imperio-romano.html

https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/archive/index.php/thread-2172-2.html

http://rtw.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=1,1314,7860,all

[Alexandermb]

[Alexandermb]

  On 22/12/2017 at 5:28 PM, Lion.Kanzen said:

That isn't testudo.

Is anti cavalry tactic.

http://norbertodebuenosaires.blogspot.com/2015/05/formaciones-tacticas-del-imperio-romano.html

https://www.romanarmytalk.com/rat/archive/index.php/thread-2172-2.html

http://rtw.heavengames.com/cgi-bin/forums/display.cgi?action=ct&f=1,1314,7860,all

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Yes i know, i'm covering all roman tactics animations for don't have to make any separated topic

[Lion.Kanzen]

There more examples in this scenes from Siege of Jotapa.

• Units mining a wall.

 

[Alexandermb]

Questions:

Weapon should be unsheathed while testudo ?
Unit could attack while testudo ?

[Stan`]

I think yes for both. The thing is formations are broken, so I'm not sure we will be able to use those if some of wraitii's patch go through

[Alexandermb]

Then the unit should be like this, weapon ready for stab and have the shield under the eyes for have front visión while walking and for idle full cover

Edited December 22, 2017 by Alexandermb

[Alexandermb]

This isn't formation working, just changed the walk animation for test still need some adjustments

Edit: I will have to wait for the formations to work for properly alling the shields

Edited December 23, 2017 by Alexandermb

[sphyrth]

  On 22/12/2017 at 6:27 PM, Alexandermb said:

Questions:
Weapon should be unsheathed while testudo ?
Unit could attack while testudo ?

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I'm not sure about unsheathing weapons with the Testudo, but I don't think you can really attack with a formation that's specifically designed against missile fire. Their vulnerability against Shock Cavalry against the Parthians might be an evidence for that, and can't use the anti-Cav formation that Lion showed.

Love the maturing development of the animations, BTW.

[Alexandermb]

After read the links lion linked i saw one called oval formation, thats the one that could be made for attack and the anti cavalry, the testudo only have sense to protect and most likely work if its designed in the game to add more armor while in formation and reduce a lot the walk speed, and also says that while in the formation was very difficult to combat in testudo because of the litttle space.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortuga_(formación)
Su principal problema residía en el hecho de que era una formación muy apretada y lenta, lo que hacía que los soldados tuvieran una gran dificultad en los combates cuerpo a cuerpo.
 

[Lion.Kanzen]

  On 23/12/2017 at 4:05 AM, Alexandermb said:

After read the links lion linked i saw one called oval formation, thats the one that could be made for attack and the anti cavalry, the testudo only have sense to protect and most likely work if its designed in the game to add more armor while in formation and reduce a lot the walk speed, and also says that while in the formation was very difficult to combat in testudo because of the litttle space.

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortuga_(formación)
Su principal problema residía en el hecho de que era una formación muy apretada y lenta, lo que hacía que los soldados tuvieran una gran dificultad en los combates cuerpo a cuerpo.
 

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Si, por eso esta escena es absurda.

Yes, that's why this scene is absurd.

 

[av93]

  On 22/12/2017 at 7:36 AM, av93 said:

BTW, ready stance is implemented?

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I mean, how it will work programming wise? Every unit should check if a enemy is in range? How it will afect performance? It could be tied to the individual AI, that chasing a unit triggers the stance?