===[TASK]=== Crowd Sourced - Thracians (Faction)

[wackyserious]

50 minutes ago, Nescio said:

`mod.json` file is missing (intentional?), also for Illyrians mod. A licence file should be added too.

Out of curiosity, why do you use five-letter civ abbreviations (illyr, thrac)? Most 0 A.D. civs have four letters (e.g. brit, celt, gaul, etc.).

I followed the structure simulation names since it was already using thrac (although originally written code uses, only thra and not thrac)

I will add those in the next commit, thanks!

[wackyserious]

We still need the following for this mod.

CIVILIZATION BONUS

TEAM BONUS

HEROES

CHAMPION UNITS

[Nescio]

38 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

I followed the structure simulation names since it was already using thrac (although originally written code uses, only thra and not thrac)

I will add those in the next commit, thanks!

The Terra Magna civs use four-letter abbreviations as well (chin, xion, zapo). I'd recommend switching to illy and thra (instead of illyr and thrac) for consistency sooner rather than later, because it'll be more work when more files are added.

21 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

We still need the following for this mod.

CIVILIZATION BONUS

TEAM BONUS

HEROES

CHAMPION UNITS

Plus ships (use mace as placeholder), siege ram (perhaps celt as placeholder), and most importantly, a complete structure set.

Also, I made a few pull requests with minor corrections (female citizen etc.)

[Lion.Kanzen]

I would like there to be an option if you team up with another civ, that the team bonus would be like that of the Italians of AoE 2.
 

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Condottieri are available at the Barracks.

The Condottiero is a shared unique unit, i.e. it is available to any player allied with an Italian, so in essence, it is their team bonus. It has no Elite version, unlike the Berbers' secondary unique unit, the Genitour.

 

[wackyserious]

40 minutes ago, Nescio said:

The Terra Magna civs use four-letter abbreviations as well (chin, xion, zapo). I'd recommend switching to illy and thra (instead of illyr and thrac) for consistency sooner rather than later, because it'll be more work when more files are added.

Plus ships (use mace as placeholder), siege ram (perhaps celt as placeholder), and most importantly, a complete structure set.

Also, I made a few pull requests with minor corrections (female citizen etc.)

I have merged the pull requests, thanks! Can you help us switch most of the files to a four-letter prefix through another pull request? Starting tomorrow, I will be quite busy since it will be the start of the semester.

I tried to finish everything in my workload here in the forums before the semester resumed. I will still be around though to check on things.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Just now, wackyserious said:

Can you help us switch most of the files to a four-letter prefix through another pull request?

There is no consistency in the main game on this point, so why must it be so for the Thracians? I'd say use whatever abbreviation best abbreviates and makes clear what civ it is.

[Nescio]

15 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

I have merged the pull requests, thanks! Can you help us switch most of the files to a four-letter prefix through another pull request? Starting tomorrow, I will be quite busy since it will be the start of the semester.

Unfortunately I don't know how to move files via a pull request. However, if you (temporarily) give me commit access, I could push the changes from a local repository.

[Lefty]

1 hour ago, wackyserious said:

We still need the following for this mod.

CIVILIZATION BONUS

TEAM BONUS

HEROES

CHAMPION UNITS

My mod has two Heroes (Sitacles and Teres 1) and three civ bonuses (+5% population bonus, +1 speed but -1 hack and pierce armor, and a champion peltast).

I think I planned for the team bonus to be a special Thracian Peltast Merc for allies.

The champion units were in my mod were the Thracian Black Cloak, a champion Peltast, and a Calvary Skrimisker.

Edited August 3, 2019 by Lefty
Three bonuses not two

[wackyserious]

1 hour ago, Nescio said:

Unfortunately I don't know how to move files via a pull request. However, if you (temporarily) give me commit access, I could push the changes from a local repository.

Invited you to the collaborators team and added access to both thracians and illyrians repository.

[wackyserious]

49 minutes ago, Lefty said:

My mod has two Heroes (Sitacles and Teres 1) and three civ bonuses (+5% population bonus, +1 speed but -1 hack and pierce armor, and a champion peltast).

I think I planned for the team bonus to be a special Thracian Peltast Merc for allies.

The champion units were in my mod were the Thracian Black Cloak, a champion Peltast, and a Calvary Skrimisker.

I will check it out, if I have free time after class this week. Thanks!

[wackyserious]

This thread really needs a proper design document at the first post. If someone is willing to write one, I will edit the first post and add your written content. Thanks!

[Nescio]

57 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

Invited you to the collaborators team and added access to both thracians and illyrians repository.

Thanks, I've accepted the invite. However, when I tried pushing changes it failed:

remote: Permission to 0ADMods/thracians.git denied to Nescio0.
fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/0ADMods/thracians/': The requested URL returned error: 403

So apparently I don't have write permission.

[EDIT] I guess an owner could probably change access under https://github.com/0ADMods/thracians/settings or somewhere similar.

[EDIT] It seems I've “read” access to Illyrians and Thracians repositories, but “write” access to thirteen others:

Spoiler

https://github.com/orgs/0ADMods/teams/collaborators/repositories

It ought to be the other way around.

Edited August 3, 2019 by Nescio
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[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

45 minutes ago, wackyserious said:

This thread really needs a proper design document at the first post. If someone is willing to write one, I will edit the first post and add your written content. Thanks!

I'll start one for you today. I have some ... experience in that area 

Edited August 3, 2019 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[Lion.Kanzen]

2 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I'll start one for you today. I have some ... experience in that area 

"Some"... No... "a lot "suit better.

You are the boss you know.

What you think about team bonuses?

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

I am boss, but not thee boss. BIGGIEBOUSE BIGGIEBOUSE BIGGIEBIGGIEBIGGIEBOUSE.

[Lion.Kanzen]

7 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I am boss, but not thee boss. BIGGIEBOUSE BIGGIEBOUSE BIGGIEBIGGIEBIGGIEBOUSE.

You know whay I mean.

There one example, one of many.

https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/Civ%3A_Romans_Republican

[wackyserious]

59 minutes ago, Nescio said:

Thanks, I've accepted the invite. However, when I tried pushing changes it failed:

remote: Permission to 0ADMods/thracians.git denied to Nescio0.
fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/0ADMods/thracians/': The requested URL returned error: 403

So apparently I don't have write permission.

[EDIT] I guess an owner could probably change access under https://github.com/0ADMods/thracians/settings or somewhere similar.

[EDIT] It seems I've “read” access to Illyrians and Thracians repositories, but “write” access to thirteen others: 

  Hide contents

https://github.com/orgs/0ADMods/teams/collaborators/repositories

It ought to be the other way around.

Changed it, sorry. Not really that familiar with Github and non-art related files.

[wackyserious]

44 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

I'll start one for you today. I have some ... experience in that area 

Thanks! I will try to update the actors in my free time. Or you guys could work on it too, since this is a crowd-sourced project and access was already granted to collaborators team.

[Lion.Kanzen]

1 minute ago, wackyserious said:

Thanks! I will try to update the actors in my free time. Or you guys could work on it too, since this is a crowd-sourced project and access was already granted to collaborators team.

That was the spirit of CoM. Council of Modders.

Same as @Atenmeses52

 

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

THRACIANS

Give a brief introduction to the Thracians here

UNIT DESCRIPTIONS

BARRACKS UNITS

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: .
  • Hacker Armament: .
  • Appearance:
    • Basic: .
    • Advanced: 
    • Elite: 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: .
  • Hacker Armament: .
  • Appearance:
    • Basic: 
    • Advanced: 
    • Elite: 
  • History: .
  • Function: .
  • Special: -

ARCHERY RANGE UNITS

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: .
  • Ranged Armament: .
  • Appearance: .
    • Basic: .
    • Advanced: .
    • Elite: .
  • History: .
  • Function: .
  • Special: .

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: .
  • Ranged Armament: .
  • Appearance:
    • Basic: .
    • Advanced: .
    • Elite: .
  • History: .
  • Function: .
  • Special: .

CAVALRY STABLE UNITS

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: .
  • Hacker Armament: .
  • Appearance:
    • Basic: 
    • Advanced: 
    • Elite: 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: 
  • Ranged Armament: 
  • Appearance:
    • Basic: 
    • Advanced: 
    • Elite: 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

SUPPORT UNITS

• Generic Name: Thracian Woman.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Female Citizen.
  • Appearance: 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

• Generic Name: Thracian Priest.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Healer.
  • Appearance:
    • Garb: 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

• Generic Name: Thracian Merchant.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Trader.
  • Appearance:
    • Garb: 
    • Mount:
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

NAVY

• Generic Name: Fishing Boat.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Fishing Ship.
  • Appearance:
    • Shell: -
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

• Generic Name: Trading Ship.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Merchant Ship.
  • Appearance:
    • Shell: (Standard).
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

• Generic Name: Light Warship.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Light Warship.
  • Appearance:
    • Shell: Single-tier, 25 rows.
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

• Generic Name: Medium Warship.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Medium Warship.
  • Appearence:
    • Shell: 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

SIEGE WORKSHOP UNITS

• Generic Name: Stone Thrower.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Catapult
  • Appearance:
    • Shell: 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

• Generic Name: Bolt Shooter.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Bolt Shooter
  • Appearance:
    • Shell: 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

CHAMPION UNITS

• Generic Name: Champion Infantry.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Champion Infantry.
  • Armament: 
  • Appearance: 
  • History: .
  • Function: 
  • Special: 

 

• Generic Name: Champion Cavalry.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Champion Cavalry.
  • Armament: 
  • Appearance: 
  • History: 
  • Function: 

THRACIAN HEROES

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: .
  • Hacker Armament: .
  • Ranged Armament: .
  • Appearance:
    • Garb:
    • Helmet: 
    • Shield: 
    • Figure(s): 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special:
    • "Hero" Aura (details here).

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: .
  • Hacker Armament: .
  • Ranged Armament: .
  • Appearance:
    • Garb:
    • Helmet: 
    • Shield: 
    • Figure(s): 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special:
    • "Hero" Aura (details here).

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: .
  • Hacker Armament: .
  • Ranged Armament: .
  • Appearance:
    • Garb:
    • Helmet: 
    • Shield: 
    • Figure(s): 
  • History: 
  • Function: 
  • Special:
    • "Hero" Aura (details here).

NEW UNIT TRAITS

• List any special new traits here, each by bullet point. If no new traits, then say "None."

CIVIC CENTER UNITS

• Female Citizen
• Melee Infantry: .
• Ranged Infantry: .
• Cavalry: .

FORBIDDEN CLASSES

• The following are examples only
• Swordsman.
• Archer.
• Cavalry Spearman.
• Cavalry Archer.
• Quinquereme.
• Battering Ram.

STRUCTURE DESCRIPTIONS

VILLAGE

• Generic Name: House.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: House.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Granary.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Farmstead.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Field.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Field.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Corral.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Corral.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Storehouse.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Storehouse.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Outpost.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Outpost.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Sentry Tower.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Sentry Tower.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Palisade.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Palisade.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Barracks.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Barracks.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Archery Range.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Archery Range.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Cavalry Stable.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Cavalry Stable.
  • History: 

TOWN

• Generic Name: Civic Center.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Civic Center.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Dock.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Dock.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Temple.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Temple.
  • History:

• Generic Name: Blacksmith.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Blacksmith.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Marketplace.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Market.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Defense Tower.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Defense Tower.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Stone Wall.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Stone Wall.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Wall Tower.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Wall Tower.
  • History: 

• Generic Name: Gate.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Gate.
  • History: 

CITY

• Generic Name: Fortress.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Fortress.
  • History: 

SPECIAL STRUCTURES

• Generic Name: Special Building 2.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: SB1.
  • History: 
  • Requirements: Any?
  • Phase: .
  • Special: 

• Generic Name: Special Building 1.
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: SB2.
  • History: 
  • Requirements: Any?
  • Phase: .
  • Special: 

WONDER

• Generic Name: .
• Specific Name: .
  • Class: Wonder.
  • History: .
  • Any Special Requirements: 
  • Phase: City.
  • Special: 

NEW STRUCTURE TRAITS

List any new structure traits here. A possible example could be that their structures spawn militia units when they're destroyed or each building gives a trickle of resource. Anything that sets one or more of their buildings apart from the standard. 

FORBIDDEN STRUCTURES

Any?

CIV BONUSES

• CB1
  • Name: .
  • History: 
  • Effect: 

• CB2
  • Generic Name: .
  • Specific Name: .
  • History: 
  • Effect: 

TEAM BONUS

• TB
  • Name: .
  • History: 
  • Effect: 

TECHNOLOGIES

• Infantry: Very good. Almost all technologies. Ranged units are the exception: neither here, nor there. Ranged techs average.
• Cavalry: Mediocre to poor. Nothing to match the cavalry of the Persians, for instance.
• Naval: Very good. Almost all technologies.
• Siege: Good. Most technologies, though low selection of siege weapons to choose from.
• Economy:
  • Farming: Mediocre. They should get some of the technologies, but not the most advanced ones.
  • Mining: Very good. Almost all, if not all, technologies. Coinage was highly developed.
  • Lumbering: Mediocre. Same as farming.
  • Hunting: Very limited. It was practiced mostly as a sport by the rich.
  • Land Trade: Mediocre. Definitely nothing to match that of the best civs in the area.
  • Naval Trade: Very good, one of the best in the game. Almost all techs.
  • Architecture: Above average. I would say something on the order of 80% of that of the Persians.
  • Defenses: Very good. Almost all techs.

SPECIAL TECHNOLOGIES

• ST1
  • Name: .
  • History: 
  • Effect: 

• ST2
  • Name: .
  • History: 
  • Effect: 

• ST3
  • Name: .
  • History: 
  • Effect: 

Edited August 4, 2019 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Under technologies you can indicate how extensive their tech tree should be in those categories. I think originally, the tech tree was supposed to be like in AOE2 where there was 1 large tech tree and the civs would pick and choose from that to give them a "custom" feel.

 

For a Delenda Est version of this, I would add a new heading "Mercenaries" beneath "Cavalry Stable Units."

Edited August 4, 2019 by wowgetoffyourcellphone

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

On 8/1/2019 at 7:50 PM, wackyserious said:

This thread needs a proper design document.

You can copy-paste what I posted I believe and just edit that into the top post.  

You can do the same for the Illyrians if you wish.

[wackyserious]

Thanks! I quoted it in the first post.

[Nescio]

11 hours ago, wackyserious said:

Changed it, sorry. Not really that familiar with Github and non-art related files.

No worries, I'm not very familiar with github and all its features either; all those “user-friendly” extras tend to complicate things for me. Command-line `git` is much easier and faster.

Anyway, I've pushed my changes, also correcting other things. Feel free to revoke my priviliges now.

PS Did you also happen to have started a Scythians mod?

[Nescio]

6 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

THRACIANS

 

That's quite a long post! I also wrote something a year ago ( https://wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?/topic/22486-task-crowd-sourced-thracians-faction/page/2/&tab=comments#comment-355684 ), it might be still useful.

6 hours ago, wackyserious said:

Thanks! I quoted it in the first post.

Perhaps you could put it in a spoiler?