Grapjas

I got 08:52 08:15 07:42 with 100 trained units and without extra hunt. 8m_52s.zip8m_15s.zip7m_42s.zip

Nice and fun idea!

Interesting mechanic.

Minor patch to bugfixes and feedback mentioned by @Micfild All champion chariots were bugged, fixed Hoplite / archery tradition and attack upgrades were accidentally removed, fixed Unit details were hidden from observers aswell, fixed -> the bug remains for resigning players though (unless they had researched the tech before they resigned?). Will be patched. infantry archers and cavalry archers had the same melee damage and reach, fixed field camps can now also be built inside own territory (experimental) Updated original download links.

Hi @Micfild, first of all, i much appreciate you for testing and checking out the mod and providing feedback. There is a new unit at the fort called 'ammo cart', which is a mobile re-arm unit (that can also somewhat defend itself). I think you meant this positively(?), but i'd still like to point out that rams and also elephants dont cost metal anymore, just alot of food/wood. (and elephants are not really a siege unit anymore, more like a shock unit) I'll sort that out next update, thanks for reporting! Yes i did it more for balancing sake i guess, but i can see how that is offputting. I'll reconsider it. Some are intentional, like defense techs. But the archery/hoplite tradition aren't intentional, thanks for reporting.

Nice catch, thanks for reporting. I'll see what i can do. To go even further it would be great if civ choices of players would be hidden in the gamesetup aswell. But that would only work if people could pick civs themselves instead of asking the host. The espionage tech rework still needs some polishing though, because right now the stats are hidden for observers aswell i noticed.

I lied. Works now though (updated download links). Also, ty all for the kind words.

Mod update. For a more visual presentation check out the orignal post up top. Heres a little more detailed text version of the update: Units with ranged weapons have ammo. Units with low ammo (jav) will have very high damage. Slingers will regain ammo slowly anywhere. Most units have 2 attack types, ranged and melee. Weapon swapping will not be manual. The unit will swap to melee if It has no ammo A targetted unit is getting to close The target is a wall / building The target is a siege unit New aura called "Re-arm". All military structures (Barracks, Stables, Arsenals, Fortresses, Armycamps, Colony's) and also the forge will have this aura. Units that require ammo, simply need to stay inside it for at least 3 seconds for a complete ammo refill. This aura will only work if you have at least 1 forge. Some of these military buildings will have a large aura, and most have a small aura. Armycamp has a limited ammo pool units can Re-Arm from, and the Armycamp consumes ammo from the pool while shooting arrows. Once the pool is empty, the armycamp can't shoot arrows, or Re-arm units. Units are rebalanced according to their visuals. Check this balancing sheet for more info (also check the additional changes tab). 4th rank: Champion. If there is a champion counterpart of the soldier, it will be able to promote as one. For example, the athenian hoplite will promote into a city guard. Promotion rework. Units will not get bonus armor on promotion. They will receive a small heal, and (originally) ranged units will get a 10% bonus attack damage for all weapons. Melee only units have their default attack bonus on promotion (20%). Technology changes. Instead of 4 defensive upgrades for units there are now just 2. They give both a positive and a negative bonus. Example: Soldiers +3 crush, +1 hack and pierce resistance. 50ms attack and 0.25 movement speed penalty. Healers. They now provide healing in any structure they are garrisoned in. They can also build tents in which they can treat the wounded. Spy tech rework. All enemy unit and structure info is now hidden and cannot be inspected when clicked / hovered. When you buy the Espionage tech this information becomes available to you, showing you information like health and ammo when clicking or hovering over enemy / neutral soldiers. Charge attacks. Units have energy and will use it to charge an enemy. Energy is consumed at a rate while charging the target. The first attack deals bonus damage but consumes all energy. Rams max energy / regeneration rate / bonus damage, is based on how many people are garrisoned inside. And some more stuff. I guess you just have to find out by playing the mod! Any feedback and bug reporting is greatly appreciated.

I think you pretty much discribed what my mod does? Only difference is i use energy so a unit cannot endlessly charge after an escaping enemy and functions as a reset after a succesful charge attack. This pretty much means they can charge once per combat. Only thing i would need to do for ramming ships is simply add a melee attack and set energy in the template. Ram speed and damage will be automatically increased with more garrisoned soldiers.

It will be included in my next mod update. Right now it's in it's prototype phase, but it's already working as discribed below. Melee units have energy and automatically initiate a charge attack when they are close enough to their target. They consume energy at a rate while they are charging their target and deal bonus damage on the first attack if they had energy left when they reached the target (after a succesful charge attack the left-over energy will be consumed). Units that do nothing AKA idling will recharge their energy automatically. Rams will be able to charge aswell and have bonus damage/speed based on how many men are garrisoned inside it on the first attack. Rams only have energy equal to how many are inside though, that means 0 when they are ungarrisoned. Pierce damage receives the highest damage bonus, so that means pike and spear charges are stronger than sword charges.

Why would an economical role be the equivalent of being worthless? Why is the warfare role more important than the economical one? You need both, without economics you can't deploy warfare. I'd say thats far from being useless or honourless. I think men would be picked to fight over women 99.9% of the time with the current civs we have ingame. Don't quote me on it though. But the mod wow made for having both male and female "gatherers" is a nice addition because that seems more realistic to me since not all men went to warfare.

Hi @Genava55, thanks for the interest. I got it working. The new features of the next update that are finished right now can be find here: Grapjas93/grapejuice at prototype (github.com). If you're interested you can also check the project overview of what i still need to do.

Yeah i scribbled something together aswell, but i think @m7600 is on it, so i withdraw

@Old Roman, just to double check, you pasted "svn co https://svn.wildfiregames.com/public/ps/trunk/" without the quotes in command prompt and not "https://svn.wildfiregames.com/public/ps/trunk/", right? To update SVN, right mouse click the folder where you downloaded it and click "SVN update".

Fair point. I agree.

Could maybe do something like a base score for posting then have a multiplier for it. Base_score x (reputation / posts) = Add_value_to_rank Example (low rep, high post count): 10 x (10 / 20) = 5 Example (high rep, low post count): 10 x (50 / 10) = 50 Not sure if this is possible but i'm just thinking out loud.

@maroder I honestly like them (alot). It's especially nice because they are from the game. @feneur are you open for new icons if we provide them to you? If so, what size do they need to be?

Yes, but you need 14 icons for all 14 ranks on the forum which icons did you have in mind from the game?

I kind of like the cleaner look overall, but takes some getting used to. As a replacement for the placeholder rocket image i think this would be great (in color though); Now we just need someone who can/want to make them

My take on how you can easily install SVN (latest development build) on windows: Download and install (make sure you check the command line tools option) https://tortoisesvn.net/downloads.html Make a folder where you like, name it whatever you like. Open this folder. Click the adress bar, type cmd and press enter. into the screen that popped up copy & paste: svn co https://svn.wildfiregames.com/public/ps/trunk/ If it says 'At revision xxxxx' it's done downloading. run \binaries\system\pyrogenesis.exe to start svn. To update svn, right mouse click the folder, choose 'svn update'. (made this post for revival of the thread to attract new people for testing / showing easability to install)

I agree that consistency in a formation will look and play better. I think the unit re-arranging inside formations comes from pathfinding in it's core, calculating if the formation can fit through the path (which gets recalculated quite often if im not mistaken) but i'm not 100% sure. But yeah, the re-arranging is really spammy sometimes. If you don't know how to mod, you need to find someone who will look into it for you. Or you can try to learn some javascript basics and apply what you learn into your mod. Code Academy is a pretty decent free one, which focusses on quick short sessions a day for routine. Relatively speaking in comparison to other languages, java is easy to learn.

@Belisarius17 He was simply giving you constructive criticism, you're taking what Freagerach said way to heavy. Part of learning as a new contributor is to accept constructive criticism and work on it. Not run away from it.

Make a new thread, describe what you are trying to make, how much experience in javascript you have, what points you need help with etc.

binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/components/Formation.js binaries/data/mods/public/simulation/components/FormationAttack.js

If you mean half way across the map, then yeah that won't work for formations. They need to be fairly close to eachother for a formation to properly group up. If a unit is far from the 'meeting point' for formation (but not to far to join the formation), they will run to it. 2021-06-20 15-04-43.mp4 I like it the way it is. Without running, the formations will feel very sluggish and a unit cannot catch up to a moving formation if it needs to join. I dislike the flee stance how it is though. It's just a dance/kite gimmick. A unit in flee stance shouldn't be able to attack others or heal (priests) imo.