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Gameplay: From all I read: Siege Huns are OP Siege Rams Helepolis Scorpio engine Han Catapults (That trebuchet like) Unique tech: Hun Bow a tech that are very slow to reach +(I'm not sure a good range number) more range for all range bow units.

The Huns in combat. In campaign they were fearsome. They attacked in dense and disorderly formations and it is estimated that each rider had several horses for refreshment, which allowed them, if necessary, to move at a much higher speed than other armies of the time. In addition, the horses -if necessary- acted as a mobile dispatcher, providing them with meat, blood, milk from the mares, etc. They wore pants and gaiters, curved hooves and shapeless moccasins made of badly tanned leather. They used lassoes to capture and knock their enemies off the horse, swords for melee, spears, etc. To their extraordinary mobility and ferocity in combat they added their secret weapon: the Hun bow. It was an asymmetrical compound bow that could reach a length of 1.60 meters. It was much longer at the top, which made it more practical to use while riding. The helmets and armor were not very different from those of their enemies and as they increased in power and wealth the cavalry went from being a light cavalry, protected with felt caftans and leather to be a cavalry composed of riders protected by loricas of chainmail or scales. The horses were also protected with felt breastplates, frontera( horse protection) , etc. reinforced with metal plates. In battle they formed a great mass, organized in three lines of attack that they tried to be as compact as possible. A considerable part of the warriors were left as reserves. The refreshment horses and provisions were left at a certain distance from the battle, sometimes protected behind a lager or circle of wagons protected by a strong contingent. To this fearsome army must be added their facility for the siege and conquest of strongly walled cities. In Priscus or San Aniano we are told how they habitually used helepolis, assault towers with wheels, portable bridges to cross rivers, ladders to assault walls, etc. As for the units, according to the Strategicon (612 apox.), the Huns adopted a formation known as cuneus. It was a type of formation already mentioned by Amianus Marcellinus, 200 years earlier. It had a tribal nature and its number of members was variable (from several tens to several hundreds of horsemen) under the command of a chief called cur. Besides this detail on that formation, we only know that they were organized tribal and that from 411 to 444 after the appearance of more powerful kings (Shan yu) the grouping of the different hordes in two large bodies of at least 10,000 warriors each, under the authority of two monarchs takes place: one located in the Pannonian Plain and another in the Lower Danube, subordinate to the previous one. It is estimated that at that time the Huns could count about 30,000 horsemen, to which should be added numerous contingents of light and heavy infantry that increased as the process of expansion of their territory and the number of vassal peoples progressed. Given the logistical limitations of Antiquity and despite having a much larger number of warriors, they could not mobilize more than 60,000 men in total for a single campaign.

@Genava55 Ritual Scars? Any idea , like Amerindians?

Huns before Attila. (Spanish source). https://historiayromaantigua.blogspot.com/2023/10/los-hunos-antes-de-atila-el-pueblo-que.html?m=0&fbclid=IwAR0o4hjH9Us2M-bZ2BTYelgzqGKep5b7_PG-QPEyG9D_GGzSOZV_xyCcElE The people that surpasses all the limits of cruelty" (Histories, XXXI.2.1). With this phrase, Amianus Marcellinus, a seasoned officer of the fourth century, refers to the people that burst into the Roman limes after subduing or putting to flight the tribes that previously inhabited the immense territory between the Don River(Russia) and the Danube. [...] The Romans had been fighting barbarians of different kinds (Germanic, Celts, Sarmatians, etc.) for centuries and were not prepared for the novelty of contact with the Huns, the first Turco-Mongolian people with whom the Romans had to deal. Something similar happened to the Goths, the Slavs or the Iranians, who reflected in their folklore the impact that the contact with the Huns had on them (for example, The Song of the Nibelungs). Their short period of domination was enough to fix the civilization-Hun antithesis in the European collective consciousness. So much so that the term Hun has historically been considered an insult related to extreme savagery. For example, it was used by the conflicting powers in the First and Second World Wars to disqualify each other. The Hun people were the product of the fusion of several nomadic groups from Central Asia. They stood out as excellent archers and for their skill in warfare and ability on horseback. Under the leadership of great warlords such as Charaton, Ruga (Rugila) or Attila, they forged a vast empire that extended from the shores of the Caspian Sea to those of the North Sea. THE ORIGIN AND BEHAVIOR ON THE BATTLEFIELD. Who were these nomads and where did they come from? On the exact origin of the Huns there is controversy. There are numerous authors who defend that the origin of the Huns must be sought in the conglomerate of steppe peoples called Hsiung-Un, the Xiung-Nu mentioned in Chinese sources. These people became the worst of enemies for the Chinese rulers of the Qin and Han dynasties for almost 200 years. They founded an empire that eventually split into two large groups: the southern one that continued to harass the Chinese until the 4th century and the northern ones that were subdivided between those who took Mongolia as their base and those who migrated to the West, towards the steppes of the Aral Sea and Lake Baljash. This second group that migrated to the west is the one that, when it crosses the Volga riverbed and subdues or displaces the Alans, Sarmatians, Greutung Goths and Tervingians, will provoke an earthquake without precedent in European history. In favor of this theory there are several factors such as the coincidences found between the Huns' cauldrons and the cauldrons belonging to the Hsiung-Un culture, the historical and phonetic concordance found in the Roman, Chinese, Persian and Indian sources that refer to these nomads, and that recent genetic studies have shown (in the later case of the Avars) that it is perfectly possible and much faster than we might think the displacement of an entire people from Mongolia to the banks of the Danube. There are other factors such as the fact that, unlike other barbarian peoples of their time, the Huns demonstrated a perfect mastery of polyorgetics (siegecraft). They used all kinds of machinery, catapults, battering rams, hellepoles. According to some recent studies, they even used some types of catapults that even the Romans did not know. That knowledge could come from the centuries of struggle that their ancestors the Hsiung-Un maintained against the civilized empires of China, Persia or India. The lack of archaeological concordance in the burials and above all the fact that no elongated skulls have been found in the tombs attributed to the Hsiung-Un people, while in the Huna culture and in some of the peoples of the Hsiung-Un people, the Hsiung-Un people were the only ones to have found elongated skulls in their tombs. In any case, this discussion must always be made thinking that we are talking about their elites, even of their real clans, since the nomadic peoples of the steppes have a very variable composition that changes constantly with the addition of the elements contributed by the people that they subdue as they pass through. In any case, for the Romans the Huns were something totally new and the discourse they constructed from the beginning was based on otherness, on the discourse of civilization against savagery and vileness. Amianus Marcellinus and experienced officer experienced in several campaigns against Alamans, Saracens and Chionites called them "two-footed beasts" (History, XXXI.2.2) says that they are "the people that surpasses all the limits of cruelty" (Histories, XXXI.2.1). The Romans were frightened by their flat noses, typical of a people of Turkic-Mongolian origin, their bowed legs from living on horses, their large heads and in many cases their elongated skulls. The beard of the men was scarce, due to the fact that they disfigured their faces with ritual scars practiced since childhood. Their clothing was strange, based on linen, marmot skins that were never changed until they rotted on them. In their long journeys they could drink the blood of their horses, they ate raw or half-cooked meat by putting it under their saddle while riding. They did everything on horseback (negotiating, sleeping, eating, etc). Related https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugila https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charaton

The problem is that with what we replace the troops, we have problems with the replacements of the Velites and Extraordinarii.

A mix of Centurion and early Imperial look can work with Elite troops, using Iron Helmet(cools) with Lorica hamata late + republican Marian legionnaire style. Pompeyan Evocqtus.

May be replace a extraordinarii with Evocatii. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evocatus https://www.honga.net/totalwar/rome2/unit.php?l=en&v=rome2&f=rom_rome&u=Rom_Evocati_Cohort

There is a problem with the unit that will replace the Extraordinarius. The problem is that we are not sure what unit should be in the late Republic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_army_of_the_late_Republic Modern historians have also sometimes credited to Marius the abolition of Roman cavalry and light infantry and their replacement with auxilia. There is no direct evidence for this contention, which is driven largely by literary sources' silence on those branches after the 2nd century; continued inscriptional evidence attests both citizen cavalry and light infantry into the end of the republic.[53] The decline of Roman light infantry has been connected not to reform but cost. Because the logistical cost of supporting light infantry and heavy infantry was relatively similar, the Romans chose to deploy heavy infantry in extended and distant campaigns due to their greater combat effectiveness, especially when local levies could substitute for light infantry brought from Rome and Italy.

I open this topic to Discuss a new gameplay already in Phab discussion. SUMMARY Swapping unit availability as before doesn't work when units are being trained while their production building loses access to train them. see https://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/6888# I tested all three cases below and they all work. Note: Tooltip change and price increase as instant conversion is very strong.

Did you use chatgpt?

Check this gameplay, a lot criticism with the look of units. One thing I agree with him is that our javelin thrower does not have the wooden mechanism with which he throws the Mesoamerican javelin of Atlat. @Duileoga toma nota

I didn't know that WOW had already added campaigns to his mod game.

Urine Tax Collector https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pecunia_non_olet A tax on the disposal of urine, an important ingredient to the Roman chemical industry, was first imposed by Emperor Nero under the name of vectigal urinae in the 1st century AD. The tax was removed after a while, but Vespasian re-enacted it around 70 AD in order to fill the treasury.[2] Vespasian imposed a urine tax on the distribution of urine from Rome's public urinals (the Roman lower classes urinated into pots, which were later emptied into cesspools). The urine collected from these public urinals was sold as an ingredient for several chemical processes. It was used in tanning, wool production, and also by launderers as a source of ammonia to clean and whiten woollen togas. The buyers of the urine paid the tax.

About Dwarf seller The Roman Empire actually imported dwarves from around its territories to fight them in dwarf "battles" in the Colosseum's games (circa 100 AD). The Roman crowds apparently thought that was pretty funny, and it provided comic relief from all the real killing, so the officials running the Colosseum would base specialty acts around dwarves/midgets boxing each other, and would similarly showcase other 'foreign oddities' (ex. supposed Amazons) collected from around the empire.

Honduras pero tengo muchos amigos argentinos en línea desde hace años.

Do not take it as a reprimand or scolding. Delenda est is not as popular in multiplayer as the base game or the official civilization mods. I've rarely seen it in multiplayer I've never tried it. I almost always test developer versions

It reminds me of a reprehensible (but funny) advertisement for the national women's day in my country. It said: we will give you sausage on women's day.

I mean animal meat, No human sausage. Lol.

Since A15 the balance of troops was chaotic. And it never took seriously the role of the units or the historical function on the battlefield. That's why that balance was better thought out in DE since it was conceived. But now for the first time without hard counters it has reached the same kind of quality.

I a correct answer : By definition, auxiliae were any non-citizen troops supporting the Roman army. The nature of these troops’ training, quality and equipment varied and they were as diverse as teh timeline and evolution of the Roman army itself. As such you cannot have any definite answer to this question. It would be like asking whether the US Marine uses muskets in hand to hand combat since, you know, US Marines in the 1800s used muskets, and therefore so did the guys in Fallujah, right? In the earlier period of Roman rule, yes they did, but so did the legionaries themselvse, whether hoplites or as triarius. The Romans knew that they would need some spearmen, but not bother themselves so much about it themselves since allies can just provide them. As Rome expanded as an overseas empire, many tribesmen from Gaul, Iberia, Germans and Greeks would join the Romans as part of auxuilia corps.

Are you going to use triarius? Or auxiliary infantry? Since after the Marian reform, very little has changed in the army until the time of Augustus. If it changed, it was very gradually, they did not change from one moment to another, the changes had already come from the public wars. slowly.

The skirmisher.... There aren't many references because the skirmisher ( velite type) auxiliar start to disappear and the archers auxiliary are the new range infantry + slingers.

0 A.D voices in Roman mod.