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By guerringuerrin · Posted
Perhaps you should ask yourself why thousands of people are still playing Age of Empires II or StarCraft II in the international competitive scene and haven’t left despite having to make thousands of clicks. Anyway, I see you’re a clever guy who came here to explain to all of us how stupid we are, appealing to analogies and “smart” comments, while you can’t even beat Petra Bot, which must be one of the dumbest RTS AIs out there. -
By AlexHerbert · Posted
Bro, I understand that new players who don't know how to play want some help with auto-training, I personally used it at the very beginning. But if you are an experienced player it feels lazy. If players want the game to play by itself, it’s also possible to just watch replays, spec games or put AIs to fight each other and enjoy the show. -
By guerringuerrin · Posted
I think car analogies don’t work very well for discussing RTS design. But even if we were to accept it as a valid comparison rather than a false analogy, I’ll explain why I still think it doesn’t hold: The Model T today is mostly a collector’s item and is no longer part of the modern car's market. By contrast, StarCraft: Brood War still has active professional tournaments, specially in South Korea. And the same unit-training mechanics are still present in modern competitive RTS titles like StarCraft II and the Age of Empires series, which continue to run esports tournaments with significant prize pools. So this isn’t just a case of defending an obsolete design. These mechanics are still part of the competitive RTS ecosystem today. However, I’m still not entirely sure what we are actually discussing here: whether the goal is simply to add an option so that the vanilla auto-queue pauses until enough resources are available, or whether the intention is to introduce a highly automated system like the smart training from the ModernGUI mod. In that system, production not only resumes automatically when resources become available, but the game also determines the batch sizes based on the available resources and distributes the training across all eligible buildings through the training panel provided by the mod. Because those are two very different things. -
By seregadushka · Posted
Atrik , Colleague, I've got you figured out. They probably play on PS. The main thing for them is the presence of a soft sofa. We have an armor-piercing "Fun fact." which is impossible to argue with -- PETRA has an "Auto-Queue", we don't. But the developers suggest that we feel dumber than this bot every day. They will offer to reconsider their views, buy a new mouse, and still start enjoying this hamster clicker 0 A.D. A very important argument is "we can do better, but we have already done worse. We must show respect for our old decisions (mistakes). We cannot admit that for 22 years we have been tormenting people with unnecessary movements that serve the main process of the game." I wonder how many people have dropped 0 A.D.?, because it seems silly to them to make the same clicks by the hundreds. While your troops are being destroyed on the battlefield, we are maintaining the barracks. "We can do better. But you have to change your attitude towards your inner negativity. Because there are games where it's even worse." -- Strange methods of persuasion. It's a strange excuse not to change anything, like 22 years ago. In such a position, no one will sweat from work. The developers probably find it pleasant to click on each building in turn. And after 1 minute, repeat in a circle. But it's not developers who live in the world, but ordinary normal people. With a different worldview. To some, it will seem the height of idiocy. Especially in a battle with a robot that laughs and chokes on its transistors, watching our thousands of clicks. When he has only 1 click, at the beginning of the exponent. For Petra, we're real dumb hamsters. The same bot sees the code 0 A.D. He sees this one parameter LockQueue =1, which must be enabled, and will save himself the agony. But these leather bags are not familiar with binary calculus. How are they going to beat me ??? --------------- Atrik , I wrote to you in ModernGUI . 0 A.D. -- a well-known program that likes to shove its data across all disks. I have it on disk D. Can you give me the exact path where to copy yours? ModernGUI ? -
By real_tabasco_sauce · Posted
The design of the game is such that you select buildings and produce from them. This is part of managing the economy which is also in the design document. Economy automation mods are fine to use in single player or against players that have this mod, but I don’t think they belong in vanilla 0ad.
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