Emperior
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4 minutes ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said:
Ok, but is han OP for this? I am just confused what is the problem or needed change?
Read first post. Comparison from nowhere of how hans food income is much better than any other civ. Hans are struggling with eco, slower build. He has also claimed that hans are using less women for gathering food - not true, they always have extra farms needed, especially when you suicide.
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3 minutes ago, BreakfastBurrito_007 said:
What is the source of this bonus? On paper there should be nothing to give Han a farming bonus
There is no bonus, simply he took women to gather wood on the right hand side. There was no ministers. He struggle with food and wood because he was making cavs. The first post saying that 10 farms are so super op, now he is using 20 while not managing to have good amount of food.
also, there was ptol in game on his team too. so extra food income would come from ptolo civ.
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Insane hans food opness. Having 20 farms while having 2k food only XD user has taken all women from farms to get some wood. just saying... it was xpert ( @hamdich ) playing
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@real_tabasco_sauce 90% of players doing 8-9 farms for infantry while playing other civs not 10 or 50 as xpert claims. If you make 9 u will be fine with food even more than fine, ofcourse if you are not suicider. Which he often does. Anyway, nerfing whatever you thing to nerf about hans, there is nothing except nerfing overall cavs in the game.
For hans to actually spam units, you require around 13 farms not 9. You also need big bag of stones for barracks, and plenty bags of metal for at leat making 1 or 2 buildings for champs.
Anyone who claims crossbows or archers are op, are the players who has met a player "sniper", who simply snipe his ranged units while he focusing on meatshield. Xpert doesnt do sniping, maybe time for him to study and learn to snipe? Who knows what the future brings.
Xpert (Hamdich) making more farms as he is abusing cav as often jav seems stronger too.
I need to ask @Philip the Swaggerless to stop sniping xpert when he plays or me, nerfing anything else of han you will break them and no-one will use them.
Last unit which is amazingly op are fanatics, due speed and capturing possibilites. Stop claiming that they cost a lot of eco, eles cost more and people do spam them. Athenians are broken too.
Sword cav vs spear are doing great, any merc rank 2 cav seems amazingly op.
I will give you solution to the balance as I already give one to @borg- when he did balancing of the game. Unfortunately, it will not sound nice.
give back balance from a24/a25 where cavs were op, thats how u will make xpert more happy than he is now, also as borg never added u can add extra flying eles or ponies so other can have something else than just spamming cavs.I just logon to say this before you "fix" anything. @real_tabasco_sauce before releasing with xpert ideas for fixing balance please let me know, so I can start playing gauls again.
Please do not send message on forums, unless you must. I do not wish to be part of the forum anymore, so I login very rarely on forums. Thanks.
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ooopsy , I forgot about this topic. I am barely using forum account anymore. Good luck everyone.
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You can count me in. Depending on times etc. When would be the start
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2 hours ago, Norse_Harold said:
Guess what? The players should also be considered responsible for enforcing the rules. If they don't approve of certain conduct then they should be taking action in order to prevent that conduct. It starts with their own behavior. Two wrongs don't make a right. Players should not try to rationalize that their own disruptive behavior is okay because other regular players have certain disruptive behavior as well. Players, if you don't approve then punish the other players in a constructive way. Refuse to join their games unless they correct their behavior. Join hosts who have rules for their games. Apply rules to the games that you host.
There are only a handful of hosters who have good connections, fast computers, correct port forwarding and correctly functioning firewalls. As a result, these hosters tend to be the most popular team game hosters. They could be considered "key terrain" for applying rules. But, if the disruptive players choose not to cooperate then they'll look for ways around the rules. The strategy should be prepared for this, and ideally split the non-disruptive "pro" players from the hardcore-stubborn-disruptive "pro" players. The hardcore disruptive players will just host their own games and step on each others' toes. Fine, let them do that, but don't step on the toes of players who want to get along and support everyone's fun. And, someday, the stubborn ones might choose to follow the rules in order to participate in some fun gameplay for everyone.
I do understand that you are helper, but it feel like you have missed a lot of topics , posts for the past few years which basically tells you that even if user ban one specific player from the host, he will make new account, show he can play then play as new account. Basically it's like getting fed by the host.
Again, as far as I remember there isnt many skilled level player which means that if they ban 1, the other one will host and the host will ban the other one for banning the toxic player.
You are blaming hosts for everything, it's fine. We survived so many years, i doubt it will change any time in future. I am sorry to say that, but I doubt that what I say here it will get to you if it didnt get from 2017 when I always been saying the same over and over. Doing nothing as lobby moderators you are putting hosts with tied hands. Thats all. There is nothing else to be explained here. If you want to keep pushing on your kind of studburn thinking hosts are the blame.
Here ya go: write an article in one post, so I at least I wont have to read 3 posts of the same person rather than one post including everything what that person want to say.
One, more thing. That what is happening it is because it been let by lobby moderators, starting from smurfing, then toxicty. That is only my opinion. It can be wrong or good, can't judge but you are trying hard to push the fault on hosts which are not the fault here. It's bascially "you exclude , we exclude from the game. " To get players from your host, we'll ddos you. = Ask Havran why he gets dc if he hosts. Anyone can tell you that.
Sadly, I doubt you seen anything from what's been happening as you were barely around from 2017.
This is not to offend anyone. That;s the way which I talk/write.
// This is my last post in this topic and probably on the forums. mods have seperated my answers to another topic? No reason. Anyway, @Stan please advise me how to delete any data from the forums with this account as well. Won't be creating new one. Thanks.
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6 minutes ago, Norse_Harold said:
Yes, you have a few sentences at the end of your post about in-game conduct and rules. The solution is to split the comments into two separate posts and ensure that they are posted in the correct threads.
Stop making hunderds of topics, just to be ignored. Simple as that, this issue isnt going for about a month. It has been here in 0ad for months as nothing has been ever touched. Spliting, creating new topics/post will help nothing here. I can create 10 more and put in each of them 1 sentence and ping all of them to @Stan` @user1 but in the end mostly will be ignored. So I doubt if it matters which topic or where it should be, there should be 1 topic which invole smurfing, toxicty, racism, profanity, smurfing etc as all of this connect to each other like a rope to the ship, and the other end to the ground. It doesnt matter....
Rather than looking for moderation in the forums, start maybe from lobby?
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6 minutes ago, Norse_Harold said:
Emperior, this thread is about in-game rules, not lobby rules. Can a forum mod move Emperior's post to the Lobby Help and Moderation thread, please?
I think you should read everything, not half, not just my post but all of them.
QuoteI have found that there are no moderators and that some pro players are quite toxic.
Quote2. Toxic comments can lead to immediate expulsion3. Pro players must set an example of good behavior.That was commented in my post @Norse_Harold
Quote, I've considered using these simple rules in the games I host.
QuoteDon't quit or leave early. Play as a team and share resources.
I think @maxticatrix was away for quite long time as he has not much information about ddosers who will ddos, gather ip to ddos after, etc. Quiting early by some are done daily, not many good level players are in, if not they just smurf.
Often happens by those who are toxic, game lobby, doesnt matter, it happens everywhere. Smurf not getting fixed, host has hands tied with everything which has been set in these rules.
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Welcome back, happy to see you again. Especially when alpha 26 mostly bad balanced alpha will be released very soon. (Please be advised this is only my personal view of the current balance of a26 as I have logged in and tested mainly han civ. I really do hope, I am wrong after so many alphas at least once. )
When it is about profanity, this will be at the moment very small issue with whatever has been said. There are known players who are extremely toxic, use a lot of profanity but not just that. Please come and see by yourself, it is a bad film to be watched, but there is noone to deal with it . Some of the senetces could be counted racist etc. Not mentioning here any nicknames but any of them reading this, will know this is post about himself.
The main issue is: its already been happening in the main lobby even tho I have pinged @Stan` and @user1, nothing has been done. Not sure if they just didnt notice, or simply ignored it.
BOT can deal with half of the things, the other half would have to be done by actually ingame moderator but there is no such function as this as well as appriopriate function for detetecting and baning so changing IP wont help..
Quoteperhaps hosts and other players can choose to play with that person or not.
Again, and again I see a post where the task is given to the hosts with little power.
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@user1you said:
On 24/08/2022 at 8:40 PM, Norse_Harold said:Absence of (obvious) evidence is not evidence of absence.
QuoteI didn't mean to imply that it's assumed there isn't some number of players who felt some way and didn't report it. I'm referring to the reports that are present in game (simple chat message in lobby) and in the forum. There are many (at least several) orders of magnitude greater number of players than there are players who have been affected enough by some thing to decide to mention it. That's what I was trying to say. It takes into consideration that there are more potential reports that were not made even though some number of players didn't like something and chose not to report it. I guess absence of evidence is also not evidence of a problem. I said it's a good thing if the majority of players like the game and the lobby.
ProphetMuhammad is a somewhat old player. If some host is using someone's rating or their self-professed rating as a gauge of the skill of some player it's very possible that host is making an error. The host could consider taking into consideration the opinions of the rest of the players in the game, and then balance can be decided consensually.
It's understood that many of the issues players face are because they don't like the way some host of a match runs it. Balance, allowing smurfs, allowing language, not banning some player, etc... Fortunately it's very easy now for most players to host their own match if that's their desire. And it's easy for players to decide to join or decline to join some match for reasons they might have.
Could you please let me know how does the host know if the "new player is actually new or it is a smurf?" It is easy to judge the hosts of the game, but host cannot kick out every new player from the game as there is possibility of him/her being a smurf. Even if hosts would be doing the way which you are telling them to do, how many of new players would be staying to play 0ad? Basically such decission would make more people leave, even when there is not as many new players coming to the game.
There is nothing for hosts to know that this person is a smurf, asking yourself every time is wasting time due games starting already for about 20 minutes which will last 10 due bad balance of the players.
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On 17/06/2022 at 8:38 PM, LetswaveaBook said:
In a similar test:
In A25, the javelin cavalry receives after the first hit 12 more hits while being chased over a set distance.
In A26, the javelin cavalry receives after the first hit 7 more hits while being chased over a set distance.
I seems that it is a fair estimate to say that melee cavalry can't chase down javelin cavalry as good as they could in A25 and during the escaping phase, the javelin cavalry receives about 1/3rd less hits in A26.
How the heck you planning to catch then javelin cav? Did they add flying eles? Inf units cannot catch cav, makes the javelin cavs already op in a25 vs units , spear or anything. Now you are quite happy for them not getting as many hits as before?
Quoted.a.mn, cavs banned again in a26 or simply only cav games ! Mark my words!
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Are there any rules? Expectation from the helper, such as hours per week or something? Does the player use same account or has access to new one where he does only help with lobby?
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Hello everyone,
We all know that 0ad has a bot which logs in to 0ad and dealing with profanity or giving out the points to players for 1vs1 rated. Is there anywhere a copy of that bot so I can play around with the code and see if I manage to make the bot enter every single 1vs1 which is rated? Writing it from scratch could take me a long time.
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On 14/08/2022 at 1:12 PM, go2die said:
as Lobby is not fully connected to forum and not all players are aware of this forum it really not much usefull.
Maybe some in-game reporting feature should be created.... after all it is lobby issue not forum issue, where elsewhere it should be...
Hello go2die,
I think the lobby needs more active moderator's. Anyway, noone can be active a lot due having own life but currently, at least for past quite few years there is no moderators of the lobby.
Smurfing, toxicity been growing and growing. Not sure what is the reason for mainly dev's being the lobby moderators but feel's like they cannot cope doing both at the same time. That's my point of view when it comes to lobby moderation.There is one player who has been insulting, smurfing for the past few years. Noone ever done anything with him.
Have fun all.
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yes i meant elo point system.
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2 hours ago, Stan` said:
Well there are some JS files and some CPP files, and it probably requires changes to the lobby python code.
Do you know which folder would be mainly for that? Biggest issue would be with cpp.
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Hi,
Sorry for the newbie question as well as possible wrong category for my specific question. It should be here or for modders or something.
If someone would like to implement a bit of fixes for the rating system are there specific files for it? Total newbie question.
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2 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:
I agree with this.
There is no longer a proper turtling.
a23 boom finish at 9/10 min, a25 boom finish at min 12-15 (15 especially if someone wants to spam cav champ or any other op unit.) So, no turtling? Maybe by 2 players out of 8. In the best case 4 due rushes too
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@wowgetoffyourcellphone Sorry for going a bit out of topic a bit as well but my answer to your question would be: yes they should be produced in special building or castle. Hero should not be trained in cc for most civ's.
been here for the past few alphas except the a24 due knowing the balance been just bad, even tho I have warned about archers way before. Production of hero's and champions as well rams was very good as castle was important. Now u get p3, get workshop, take whole army and gg. Basically who first get p3 usually will win his side and the game simply over, unless it is the fight of rushers.
Spamming mines all over map made trade useless.
Removing the attack vs units for cata and rams has made them more useless than anything else. Cata in a26 seems lik we wont have too go out of the territory on small map to kill enemy cc ! Great . xD Romans had that specific bonus to have camps where they could build rams in camp. Maybe do requirement for workshop to be build after castle up?
Han civ currently amazingly op eco wise as well as defense and fight too.
edit. btw the speed of ranking units in a26 (svn currently) without changing will make champs less usable anyway.
Many other, just too many issues seen in a26.
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Just now, Gurken Khan said:
That's one of their civ bonuses: Sun-dried Mud Bricks 'Houses and Economic Structures -40% wood cost and health.'
Sun-dried Mud Bricks - ptolo houses doesnt cost stone which should.
-40% wood cost and health. most of buildings of ptolo should use stone not wood with such price. at the moment ptolo eco is just op even if u downgrade health, meaning building is faster too.
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10 minutes ago, KKaslana said:
I am afraid I cannot agree with your viewpoint here.
Sometimes I just remain idle and observe lobby conversations, without interacting with anyone and few people ever noticed me. Approximately 1/3 of the conversation is about advertising games and asking for players to join; another 1/3 is post-mortem of games where players compliment each other or insult each other; about 1/4 is smurf speculation and the remaining parts are in other languages that I cannot understand.
Out of all of the smurf speculations I have observed so far (at least 20 cases), there had only been 2 correct guesses; all of the other attempts were wrong, a 10% accuracy. An interesting observation was, the speculators themselves were absolutely convinced with their reasoning and refused to listen to other player's guesses. The deduction reasoning of the smurf speculators roughly follows these 3 paths:
1. Who does this playstyle resemble?
2. Who could invent this name?
3. The style of language used by this smurf.
Once a player satisfies all 3 criteria, then the speculator is convinced of this player's identity. Intuitively, this logic is sound, however, one must consider the possibility of non-unique solutions to the problem and the plausibility of a player changing their strategy. If one would like to conceal their identity, they would alter their use of language and playstyle, even if it means hindering their skills slightly. These often throw the speculators off-course and wrong an innocent player while leaving the real culprits amok.
On the case of Yekaterina, as a fellow student in the same university as her, I can responsibly tell you that she has been ill since last Thursday evening and any potential smurfs you saw since then couldn't have been her. Furthermore, a technical difficulty specific to Eduroam (the WiFi network in our university) prevents more than 1 account from logging in simultaneously, that means, if she is online, then I must be offline. This problem first appeared in January 2022 - I believe she has not been able to make another account since then. I have watched her try to create another account over VPN, different HWID spoofers but all of her attempts failed and resulted in her being banned. Therefore, Emperior's claim that Yekaterina 'is still smurfing' is wrong. We used to swap laptops to play the game, so at times, I was playing behind what appeared to be Yekaterina, on her laptop. Sometimes people could notice but most of the time people never knew a change! One week ago, I found a method to circumvent this bug and enjoy myself in the lobby independent of her. However, I have not taught her how to do it yet! Therefore she still does not have the ability to create another account, at least when she is in the university.
I doubt that you will believe anything that I say, which is expected considering I am always anonymous and rarely participate in lobby games. However, I would like to inform you that even the things you most firmly believe in could be wrong. Assumptions will remain speculative until they are proven or set as an axiom.
No offence but your post looks like an article of best top TV show which do flip flop with the words of others. Anyway, I will keep it short and sweet.
QuoteSometimes I just remain idle and observe lobby conversations, without interacting with anyone and few people ever noticed me.
Do you really think people are checking who's specting lobby? Seriously, are you joking here, right? I doubt I ever played with you or saw you in the lobby (nickname on forum), so at that point I see no point to discuss that anymore. Thanks. Just to let you know 90% of speculations happening in spectators ingame.
Quotesince last Thursday evening and any potential smurfs you saw since then couldn't have been her.
I didn't see any at least in the games which I am playing in, which is simply good.
QuoteFurthermore, a technical difficulty specific to Eduroam (the WiFi network in our university) prevents more than 1 account from logging in simultaneously, that means, if she is online, then I must be offline.
At that point I should stop reading that post. Do you know that only moderators see the IP, also very important note for yourself. Multi-accounts are not getting banned right now even if all of them were created from 1 IP. So, what has an ip to do with smurfing if 1 person can create 10000000 accounts under same IP?
QuoteOut of all of the smurf speculations I have observed so far (at least 20 cases), there had only been 2 correct guesses;
How do you know both were correct? How do you know if any of them were not correct? are you lobby admin? or talking trash here?
Quote. Who does this playstyle resemble?
90% people in 0ad repeat same moves over and over so it gets boring, spam women, get rushed gg, spam women, get good eco, die like nub, spam women and say you re pro in spamming women by calling it booming. Same civ (up to 3) as other civs are unknown to that person or just dont like them.
Quote2. Who could invent this name?
I am player who started in a21, I doubt I ever seen that happening but hey, it's fine to think like that or say, I can't prove you wrong due possibility of not seeing this.
3. No point to comment, I think you are smart and know reasoning for this one.
QuoteTherefore, Emperior's claim that Yekaterina 'is still smurfing' is wrong.
So her created and used accounts which she does have has been deleted / banned from last thursday or you just wanted to say something ?
QuoteSometimes people could notice but most of the time people never knew a change! One week ago, I found a method to circumvent this bug and enjoy myself in the lobby independent of her. However, I have not taught her how to do it yet! Therefore she still does not have the ability to create another account, at least when she is in the university.
Must be a magic trick. Exit game > switch on game > create new profile > fill in and accept > you can now log in. IP doesn't matter as far as I remember.
On the 15th of January said:
Quote4. I move around a lot and use VPNs, so I may appear at new locations suddenly. There is no regulation against using VPNs so I don't see why I should get a stream error when playing over VPN.
Just because someone doesn't use their smurf account for few days or weeks, doesn't mean he /she doesnt smurf.
In game Chat Yek said:
Just let me relog on my smurf account.
That was quite few weeks ago.
QuoteI doubt that you will believe anything that I say, which is expected considering I am always anonymous and rarely participate in lobby games
Your're right here. Congratz.
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Hi everyone,
1. I am wondering how a player who wish to play strategy as inf can deal with cavlary which is much faster than inf. Cav archer and jav are amazingly fast to be catch by inf. are there any fix'es so inf can deal with cav too? I know they can also train cav but if 1 person already have 20-30 cavs, so you either lose the men while trying and ranking up the enemys cav or you delete own troops just to make cavs?
2. Will merc cavs be nerfed? Made more expensive due rank2?
3. Currently, ptolemies as a civ are amazingly op due bonus, eco speed, heroes bonuses and finally pikes. Are there any plans to nerf these? Why ptolo houses cost wood but those are looking like stone houses but there is only 45 wood requirment for the houses?
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@Yekaterina so you are trying to complain here about known fact that you are making multi-accounts, bascially smurfing which is the only reason why people do assumptions of "who is that person"? darn, I never though I will read something as sad as this topic just because the creator of the topic has caused the issues after which the person still creates about that topic... Sad.
You always say that you do smurf, so accept that people will not trust in other players. Yes, exactly. You are one of the reasons why people do, jc is another one. There's plenty of people who do smurf. So the only way to fight smurf is : find out, ban smurf accounts in matches as there are no moderators of lobby online. (User1 isnt robot yet, so doubt we can blame him for that.) Until the smurfing won't be dealt with by the devs like @Stan`the issue will occur more and more.
You dont like when people assume, people also dont like smurf's.
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Stan,
I thought hope dies last. Well, with you going seems like 0ad may not live for long. Sad too see but also signs has been given. I have talked in the past about lack of moderation and the main issue was lack of trust in some of us. The cheaters, should be excluded by giving the hosts to allow and disallow hosts to allow external modifications or sort of a plan to fight it back.
Thank you for your time and work which you have done for 0ad.
Regards,
Emp