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Friends, this topic is not about changing size of ships (BTW: I am personally against reducing the ships size, it looks good now). This topic is about simple feature — the boarding of ships. It is about possibility to add any ship with garnison the ability to capture (boarding) any other enemy ship without (or lesser) garnison, lilke the capturing of building. The simplification is linked the fact that possible boarding process no need animation, only capture point bar even. Or may be with "hand-on-hand combat on ship" sounds and some some flying particles to demonstrate the process. And, may be, the separation of garnisoned units between mothership and captured ship . That's all. So, as example the trade ship with garnison will get possibility to capture "empty" enemy ship. So, trade ship may be protected by garissoned war units. And so on Why not? It was so in history... Such element of surprising! This will be wonderful and very interesting concept to improve naval confrontation. Corvus add-on for Rome Ships (with or without animation) and some advanced technologies to support or counter the boarding will be good too. But, need to understand if it is possible realize boarding (capturing the ship) itself. Please note, if it is need to create a tickets in Gitea or something like that.

Hello everyone. Does Petra AI have a hidden map under the fog of war when such option has been turned on for real player in match settings? It looks, that Petra Bot always knows where the opponent is located and no need to find anything? The replays also demonstrate this, that the bot directs his army directly where it is needed from the beginning of the game match. How is it possible, without opened map and without searching location of enemies ? May be I am wrong, but it looks so, that Fog of War is not implemented for Petra AI. So, it is some advantages for Petra and disadvantages for real players. Hidden map should not been revealed before exploration. It necessary to fix it in this case. Does anybody made such request before ?

Greetings and salutations, have you eaten? You can call me by my user psudo-name Tapothei or Aez or Oyauzhi. Am in my early 20s coming from SEA with specialty of farming crops. I suffer from being motivation less & jobless so I'm not making use of my passion. RTS is a thing of mine, played C&C TW&KW, LOTR:BFME, COH1, W40k:DOW1, EE3, RTW1. What made me play them was the campaign and it was enjoyable. Skirmish however feels empty because at the end of the day its AI. Got bored looked at software downloader for linux games then stumbled upon this game. A development similar to DF, CDDA, Elona, BAR that akin to being alive for years to come. Did the tutorial and economy, beat the medium difficulty, going to practice more before multiplayer. Looking forward for the campaign to flesh out as well as possible conquest mode. A system following DOW:SS/EE3 campaign but with more feature. If you notice, my writing style becomes poetry, can't be helped. Staying here temporarily as is my ever case of nomadic presence. History is not my thing but I'll contribute my chaotic ideas whenever its possible.

From South East Asia(SEA) and my name I come up on my own. I actually don't remember the reference but it could be I thought of some Greek name. And just like that Tapothei, it has no meaning which makes me a forgotten being. There is more continuation to the name but I'll go make my own introduction there.

Can you guys make a Pull Request for this on gitea?

Thanks for all your work @Perzival12! Would have been a shame to bury this mod, so you truly did magic here!

https://github.com/wltonlopes/Endovelico/blob/main/art%2Factors%2Ffauna%2Fcamel_bactrianus_fauna.xml Added by @Alisson Fabrini

This has got to be done. I might work with @Stan` and try to do it. Unless someone like @nifa would be willing to take a crack at it.

Then I guess I take it?

Its from the battle of arausio, a huge win for the germans.

yeah but that does not cut the mustard in terms of fulfilling a role in a counter system. Overall, I think we are at a decent position for the next release, but I think we really need to scale down ships going forward. If/when someone with the talent to design such a boarding ship actor steps up to the challenge, we can resume this debate.

The German wonder is a destroyed Roman Army Camp by design. There was some thought to create a 'Grove of Fetters' with a sacred palisade, etc., which would be cool. An idea I had for later Germans would be basically a diorama of the Battle of Teutoburg Forest; its aftermath.

I mean, my original design took this into account. Civs without Siege Ships have 'Naval Oxybeles' which grants some crush damage to Arrow Ships. At least they did unless that's been changed. I know you changed a lot from my initial patches.

That's only for maps that I designed myself with the scenery editor using the random generation feature. If I just design a map and place all objects manually everything works perfect and multiplayer games can - as far as I know - be loaded. I don't know if anyone else has this problem, though. The maps that come with the game work, too.

yeah, but you can't have RPS with two members. Trying to make siege ships participate in that system doesn't make sense, since they are available in p3 and would fulfill two roles too effectively if they countered some other ship in addition to working as siege.

They wouldn't be 'similar,' they'd fulfill the same 'role' which is "melee ship." A boarding ship would be a fourth option (monkey wrench) outside the RPS. But, this is your show. My show is elsewhere!...

I'm trying to see what techniques I can use to squeeze out the maximum amount of historicity and authenticity. A lot of the minor details will be wrong, but to get a broad stroke of authenticity is what I'm aiming for. Later, perhaps all of the minor details can be ironed out with subsequent iterations as the technology develops. For instance, it would take a few more iterations to get those pleasure cruise motor boats out of the harbor and to stop all of the people on the bottom right from wearing jeans and slacks. lol Not impossible to do already currently, but I decided to move on.

With the price change, that is mostly true now. Also, they were not exactly the same to begin with anyway. But you are missing the point. What I outlined above would allow for 3 main warship types to coexist for all civs, rather than forcing the fire ship and ram ship to be so similar.

Äääähhhhhh Is that how the German wonder is supposed to look like when it's not destroyed???

I think there could be some kind of camel unit as a mercenary unit, maybe for a Taxilia faction. It'd be a Bactrian camel though, and we have yet to include a Bactrian camel model into the game (much to my chagrin. Argh!).

My brother in Christ... the fire ships were supposed to be the "ram ships" for those without ramming ships, but you invented something else.

Sure, but that's not what you said. lol But anyway, I agree there should be the ability to sort both ways at the same time.

balance-wise, it could be good to let boarding ships fulfill a role almost identical to ram ships, but for civs that don't have ram ships (that way we don't have to be historically inaccuracy of giving ram ships to the gauls for example). Then we could add fire ships to civs that lack those to properly build out the balance system for water.