cpu lag in game

[Wendy22]

Hi,

for some reason i can't play 0ad with my new desktop, it seems to have cpu lags and its unplayable for everyone.

i didnt feel any lags in other online games...

cpu : intel i9 gen 11

gpu: rtx3060ti

i hope u can help me ;/ thx.

[Gurken Khan]

First thing I always say: did you check the game runs on the dedicated GPU? Depending on your desktop model you might have an integrated GPU...

If that doesn't help, you should find your logs folder, (zip it) and upload it here (attach to your reply).

https://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/GameDataPaths

[Wendy22]

hi Khan,

how do i check which CPU 0ad game make use of ?

[Stan`]

Is it a laptop or a desktop?

28 minutes ago, Wendy22 said:

 

how do i check which CPU 0ad game make use of ?

You upload the files from the Gamedatapaths above

[Gurken Khan]

GPU, as in Graphics; try a right click on your desktop and see if there's a point in the menu like "NVIDIA...", or whatever your GPU might be. You should then be able to click through the stuff and tell it to use the dedicated GPU. If you need more help your exact model and OS would be good to know. (Or again, post your /logs.)

[Wendy22]

ofc im using nvidia gpu and not the intel 1.

im using desktop, i will upload the needed files.

[Wendy22]

logs.rar

[Stan`]

Did you compile the game yourself?

 

EDIT1: Also, enable prefer GLSL and disable all mods.

EDIT2: You might also try the release candidate.

[Norse_Harold]

Based on the logs, it looks like the game is using the dedicated graphics hardware.

Consider checking for CPU thermal throttling, mass storage device bad sectors, network packet loss, or custom build inefficiency (e.g. maybe debugging is enabled).

[Grapjas]

@Wendy22 Are you simply talking about bad performance in big / mid-late mp games? Or does it start with bad performance?

[Wendy22]

nope, it kidna start from minute 0 and getting worst as pop grow

 

@Stan` what do u mean by the release candidate?

Norse, my windows is using Nvidia gfx card, how do i check what the game is making use of ?

Thanks a lot.

[Yekaterina]

6 minutes ago, Wendy22 said:

my windows is using Nvidia gfx card, how do i check what the game is making use of ?

There should be a Nvidia settings panel. You can also view in task manager. If you can't see Nvidia settings panel or the graphics card doesn't show up in task manager, you need to update your driver. Go to Nvidia official website to download.

 

[Wendy22]

my drivers are up to date and i have always nvidia control panel open..

[Gurken Khan]

33 minutes ago, Wendy22 said:

nvidia control panel

Did you specifically see that the nvidia GPU is used for 0AD? If not, tell it.

RC:

 

[Wendy22]

13 hours ago, Gurken Khan said:

Did you specifically see that the nvidia GPU is used for 0AD? If not, tell it.

RC:

 

when downloading this version it seems like me and the moderators are only ones in lobby

[Stan`]

But does single player lag with it? It's normal it's the alpha 26 lobby.

[Wendy22]

i never had lag when played as single player, even when played on 2x / 5x speed. i think its a cpu lag because of 2 reasons:

1. i dont see ping issue on the screen

2. i can hear my fans working very hard

[Stan`]

35 minutes ago, Wendy22 said:

i can hear my fans working very hard

Can you try to limit frames / enable vsync? Did you try GLSL on and off ?

 

[Wendy22]

will try today and update, thx.

[Wendy22]

On 23/08/2022 at 3:12 PM, Stan` said:

Can you try to limit frames / enable vsync? Did you try GLSL on and off ?

 

didnt help=/

[Stan`]

Does it happen in every mp game? Are you playing in Wifi? Does it do the same when using 4G ?

[Gurken Khan]

Does anyone here know how to test for hardware defects? There are reports about a lot of rtx3060ti's malfunctioning...

[Norse_Harold]

Testing for hardware defects involves knowing what the correct functionality looks like, performing experiments and making observations to catch incorrect functionality. Ideally a wide variety of software is used, and components replaced with known-good components in order to eliminate variables. Each experiment should be performed in a controlled manner, meaning that only one variable is varied, and there is a control group (a properly functioning hardware configuration) to compare with.

One can use stress testing or benchmarking software to hopefully make it more likely that one will discover incorrect functionality.

Edited August 24, 2022 by Norse_Harold

[Norse_Harold]

@Wendy22 Can you please record video of correct multiplayer functionality (normal amount of lag) and video of incorrect multiplayer functionality (too much lag), so that we can evaluate the symptoms?

I have a suspicion that you've upgraded your hardware based on the assumption that it would magically improve the normal amounts of lag that are present with 0ad team games.

There are opportunities for making the network code more efficient and less laggy. But, lag during a team game depends on the weakest link in the chain: the player with the slowest hardware and/or the highest latency and packet loss. Reducing lag is a team effort.

Edited August 24, 2022 by Norse_Harold

[Gurken Khan]

35 minutes ago, Norse_Harold said:

One can use stress testing or benchmarking software to hopefully make it more likely that one will discover incorrect functionality.

I believe there are test suites and it is known what score a certain GPU should achieve, while neither the GPU melts nor the PC takes off due to the fans going crazy. Didn't find that quickly and hoped someone knew to point @Wendy22 to it.