Sacred places / Sites [ Gaia - Neutral stuff]

[Lion.Kanzen]

I didn't know this was a thing in AoM until recently.

[Genava55]

15 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

I didn't know this was a thing in AoM until recently.

These are only possible in a scenario or in the editor. You cannot create them.

Edited October 5, 2024 by Genava55

[Lion.Kanzen]

30 minutes ago, Genava55 said:

These are only possible in a scenario or in the editor. You cannot create them.

According to what I read(or I saw in a video), it was one of the main ideas that were later discarded.

Now I know where some of Delenda Est's ideas come from.

[Lion.Kanzen]

 

https://www.betaarchive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31457

It seems there was a video of that.

I found the following:

at 0:46 villagers can be seen praying outside a shrine; maybe in early versions the temple was used only to create mythological creatures and god favour was obtained through sending villagers to a shrine?. I have this idea mainly because: the shrine building in the retail version can be placed only in the editor and can be seen in some campaign scenarios and each culture group (greek, egyptian and norse) have a different model for the shrine building; and at the end, when you click the building, it has its own sound. My thesis is that it is a scrapped building later recycled as campaign decoration only.

[Lion.Kanzen]

Pilgrims and the making of pilgrimages are common in many religions, including the faiths of ancient Egypt, Persia in the Mithraic period, India, China, and Japan. The Greek and Roman customs of consulting the gods at local oracles, such as those at Dodona or Delphi, both in Greece, are widely known. In Greece, pilgrimages could either be personal or state-sponsored.[7] The Eleusinian mysteries included a pilgrimage. The procession to Eleusis began at the Athenian cemetery Kerameikos and from there the participants walked to Eleusis, along the Sacred Way (Ἱερὰ Ὁδός, Hierá Hodós).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrimage

Maybe they could generate gold instead of glory.

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

Abandoned temple ruins, maybe it would be another mechanic.

I must investigate further, with secrets and unique technologies from some forgotten civilization.

In this way, knowledge from another era would be discovered.

[Lion.Kanzen]

On 05/10/2024 at 4:15 PM, Lion.Kanzen said:

According to what I read(or I saw in a video), it was one of the main ideas that were later discarded.

Now I know where some of Delenda Est's ideas come from.

I found written sources.

https://ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Cut_content_(Age_of_Mythology)

 

 

 

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The Shrine was originally used to train (Alpha) Classical Age Myth Units and research related technologies, with the Temple becoming available in the (then second) Heroic Age. The building is available in the Scenario Editor, though due to human error the Egyptian Shrine model is a renamed copy of the Archaic Age Egyptian Temple (and thus will be bigger than its obstruction radius)

Major Temples were cut, only an animation file remains. It may have been yet another variant of the temple that became available in the third age (Olympic Age) of the pre-release builds, training the myth units, and researching technologies then.

Greek Major Temples were most likely reused for the Temple of the Gods building, whilst the Norse Major Temple was based upon (erroneously) Stonehenge.

Edited October 17, 2024 by Lion.Kanzen

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

On 28/10/2021 at 12:31 PM, Radiotraining said:

This is an attempt for an hellenic shrine for maps with biome: mediterranean / temperate

I tried both the small temple and the ruins, just to get an idea how it could look like

I attached some of the reference images I used

Nice concept.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Nicolaus_von_Kues

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

On 14/10/2021 at 5:11 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

Could have Mycenaean/Minoan ruins for Greek maps. Assyrian ruins for Middle Eastern maps. Etc.

There is a concept in the Middle East. sacred cosmology or sacred space/land.

In the Greek world, the earth reserved exclusively for one god was called temenos.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temenos

Disputes over sacred spaces occur because these places are not considered simple earth, but cosmic nodes of identity, historical memory and divine sovereignty. When two or more religions claim the same physical point as their axis mundi, geopolitics transforms into a mystical zero-sum conflict, where ceding territory is tantamount to betraying the deity.The most representative cases of battles for the ownership of the holy land, both historical and of extreme current relevance, include.

 

In 20th-century comparative mythology, the term axis mundi – also called the cosmic axis, world axis, world pillar, center of the world, or world tree – has been greatly extended to refer to any mythological concept representing "the connection between Heaven and Earth" or the "higher and lower realms".[3] Mircea Eliade introduced the concept in the 1950s.

 

In Mircea Eliade's opinion: "Every Microcosm, every inhabited region, has a Centre; that is to say, a place that is sacred above all.

In other interpretations, an axis mundi is more broadly defined as a place of connection between heavenly and the earthly realms – often a mountain or other elevated site. Tall mountains are often regarded as sacred and some have shrines erected at the summit or base.[20] Mount Kunlun fills a similar role in China

[...]Likewise, the ancient Greeks regarded several sites as places of Earth's omphalos (navel) stone, notably the oracle at Delphi, while still maintaining a belief in a cosmic world tree and in Mount Olympus as the abode of the gods. Judaism has the Temple Mount; Christianity has the Mount of Olives and Calvary; and Islam has the Ka'aba (said to be the first building on Earth), as well as the Temple Mount (Dome of the Rock). In Hinduism, Mount Kailash is identified with the mythical Mount Meru and regarded as the home of Shiva; in Vajrayana Buddhism, Mount Kailash is recognized as a similarly sacred place. In Shinto, the Ise Shrine is the omphalos.

Sacred places can constitute world centers (omphaloi), with an altar or place of prayer as the axis. Altars, incense sticks, candles, and torches form the axis by sending a column of smoke, and prayer, toward heaven.[citation needed] It has been suggested by Romanian religious historian Mircea Eliade that architecture of sacred places often reflects this role: "Every temple or palace – and by extension, every sacred city or royal residence – is a Sacred Mountain, thus becoming a Centre."

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_mundi 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omphalos