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lusitanos chronology by the history museum of extremadura 
https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/edad-antigua-en-extremadura

history summary
https://elblogdeacebedo.blogspot.com/2017/08/el-origen-de-la-cultura-celta.html?spref=pi

 viriato monument 
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Iberian fortress never used and it seems that it was created to demonstrate the power of a leader
would serve as a wonder

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In the following days I will be putting more in my thread, so as not to saturate the other with existing information

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5 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

Buenas @ soloooy0

 

¿Este tópico- "topic" es sobre lusitanos, íberos ...?

It will focus on Lusitanians, but as I will add sources and history of the Iberian Peninsula, some Iberians and Celts will enter the peninsula
later I want to put some important ballatas that I liked because the armies had to take extreme measures to gain examples:
Numantia, Masada, Hadrian's battle and the history of Hadrian's wall, Carthage's entry into Rome and some more that I don't remember
Even if it would be better to do another off topic of those battles mmmm
 

google translate talke for me T.T 

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21 hours ago, soloooy0 said:

It is an interesting article starting from Koch&Cunliffe view of the Celtic language originating in the West but this view got profoundly destroyed by recent genetic analysis.

R1B comes clearly from a population related to the steppes in the East. This population replaced the entire male lineage, we found no surviving Y-chromosomes from the previous Neolithic population.

https://www.lavanguardia.com/ciencia/20190314/461027127726/genoma-adn-poblacion-peninsula-iberica.html

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2019/03/ancient-iberians-dna-from-steppe-men-spain/

 

Furthermore, the most common view among linguists is that Lusitanian is NOT a Celtic language.

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6 hours ago, Genava55 said:

@Stan` Is it possible to get back the facebook links, at least as url and not embedded? By editing the message, I cannot see the raw code to get them back.

What links are you talking about exactly?

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2 minutes ago, Stan` said:

What links are you talking about exactly?

For example this message, I am pretty sure to have put the links of several FB groups talking about Celtiberians, Iberians etc.

https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/23996-iberians-celtiberians-lusitans-reference/?do=findComment&comment=403536

The same for this one: https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/23996-iberians-celtiberians-lusitans-reference/?do=findComment&comment=402924

 

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correcciones zona cancho roano y els vilars 
els vilars sería una maravilla iber y cacho roano es lusitania más o menos213441088_canchoroanoatDuckDuckGo-GoogleChrome17_01_202118_15_32.thumb.png.d1e18335f8a95565f9030ffadf8a449f.png

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el fracaso fue porque google maps me envió a un restaurante y no a las ruinas de vilas -.-

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11 minutes ago, Genava55 said:

For example this message, I am pretty sure to have put the links of several FB groups talking about Celtiberians, Iberians etc.

https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/23996-iberians-celtiberians-lusitans-reference/?do=findComment&comment=403536

The same for this one: https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/23996-iberians-celtiberians-lusitans-reference/?do=findComment&comment=402924

 

Fixed :)

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fort els vilars, lleida cataluña in iber zone 
ruins "map" 3D 
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/els-vilars-9ffeefc1a2ad47bd97c51e08b7731f77?sscid=11k5_l1cii&utm_source=shareasale&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=742098_1272560

https://www.behance.net/gallery/37443505/Iberian-fortress-of-Vilars-dArbeca

There are a thousand Iberian deposits in Catalonia, but none like this one. Between the 8th and 4th centuries B.C. the territory was fragmented into small political units. From the century Va.C. they were decomposing to create larger populations, being Iltirta (Lleida) the largest, with 170,000 inhabitants and 9,500 square kilometers of extension, ”says Junyent. Already in the 3rd century BC. the Iberians would be involved in the Punic Wars that faced the two powers of the Mediterranean, Rome and Carthage

Despite the great fortification of Els Vilars, the town was a small nucleus, with 150-170 inhabitants. «80% of the built surface was occupied by defenses. There is an immense disproportion with the inhabited space. Which shows that it was an architecture of power and ostentation: everything is theatrical. The town was the residence of the head of some lineage in an increasingly complex society. The fortress has an ideological dimension, it is an identity and cohesive element of the group, ”says the historian.


This community of farmers developed a hydraulic and metallurgical technology, with kilns and rotary mills. But in addition, it was also a town dedicated to horse breeding. And here appears one of the most unusual rituals: horse fetuses have been found buried under the houses. In a widespread custom, the unborn (either stillborn or aborted) were buried under the perimeter of the house, not in the necropolis. “He was obeying some kind of religious practice. But no other place is known where they were made with horses: they treated them the same way as human babies. It is a ritual directed at some divinity related to fertility or protection, ”says Emili Junyent.

https://latunicadeneso.wordpress.com/tag/iberos/

I do not put pages in Catalan in case the translator goes crazy
and finally video of an ancient Iberian city

 


 



 

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On 17/01/2021 at 11:36 AM, Genava55 said:

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A small schema of the cultural situation of Iberian Iron Age (I put Iberian as a general meaning for native non-indo-european in the peninsula)

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This graphic seems very ilustrative; but, where are the Astures ? they are one of the most important archaelogical cultures in the north of the peninsula:

Astures - Wikipedia

They even created their own breed of horses, called "Asturcón" in spanish:

Asturcón - Wikipedia

 

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1 minute ago, Mosé said:

This graphic seems very ilustrative; but, where are the Astures ? they are one of the most important archaelogical cultures in the north of the peninsula:

Strabo put the Astures in the same group with the Galicians and the Cantabrians, saying they have the same custom. Probably they are an intermediate step between both, an ancient Indo-European culture being Celtized by Celtiberian culture as well. 

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2 hours ago, Genava55 said:

Strabo put the Astures in the same group with the Galicians and the Cantabrians, saying they have the same custom. Probably they are an intermediate step between both, an ancient Indo-European culture being Celtized by Celtiberian culture as well. 

Yes, I agree with that. I just say that they should be taken into account just like the others (mainly because of its wide extension and relevance in astur-cantabrian wars).

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