Lion.Kanzen Posted November 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2017 https://forums.taleworlds.com/index.php?topic=356820.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Figure 21: Helmet from Moldavia combining Thracian and Boeotian features (Best)Figure 22: Horned helmet, bronze, but apparently originally possessing iron cheek-pieces, 4th century, (Thracian Treasures no. 246) Archaeological Museum Inv. No. 3454, Bryastovets (Karagach), Bourgas district. Height 23.7cm. This photo is from the 1976 British Museum exhibition; click to see a larger view from the 1980 German exhibition (Gold der Thraker No. 242) North Thracian Silver Helmet, ca. 400 B.C.; ; height 24 cm (9 1/2 in.), Detroit Institute of the Arts (Text from the DIA web site): The richly ornamented helmet was fashioned for a wealthy member of a northern Thracian tribe living near the Danube river in modern Romania or Bulgaria. It was hammered from one sheet of silver with a high dome to accommodate the top-knot of hair worn by many Thracians. The main elements of the design are in low relief; the details were chased and engraved. On the brow piece fierce eyes with bushy eyebrows stare out. One cheekpiece bears a horned animal, the other a huge bird of prey with a fish in its beak and a rabbit in its claws. The back and upper edges are embellished with linear designs of rosettes, vines, feathers and scallops. The interpretation of the imagery is uncertain, but the motifs may refer to traditional myths well known to contemporary Thracians and appropriate to the elaborate armor of a warrior. http://badaew.narod.ru/trakian/Helmets.htm 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 Petasos (Greek staw hat) needs to have a pelt variant, same with the Pilos. The Kausia (Macedonian hat) needs to be adjusted, the top part should be more rounder and prominent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 http://www.larp.com/hoplite/ This page has a very analytical approach when it comes to hoplite re-enactment. It even criticized Peter Connolly's interpretation of the linothorax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wackyserious Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 I believe this is the reference that was used for the Spartan champion's aspis (shield) design. https://stefanosskarmintzos.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/spartan-shield-devices-episimon/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Just now, wackyserious said: I believe this is the reference that was used for the Spartan champion's aspis (shield) design. https://stefanosskarmintzos.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/spartan-shield-devices-episimon/ The helmet, I'm sure @wowgetoffyourcellphone loves that helmet. becando some helmets for heroes more detailed? is only one unit.(8) by max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 By the way we need remake some old stuff looks awful with new models... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 minute ago, Lion.Kanzen said: By the way we need remake some old stuff looks awful with new models... Which ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 The original Spartan and Athenian mostly of them are very primitive, isdn bad for 2004-2006 but are 256x256 yup can find in the same folder, specially that have Spartan symbol, I'm very bad with name. I'm not in computer right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 (Design reference) Glossary: Meander https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meander_(art) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wackyserious Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 I have this in the current aspis art asset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 yes but can be nice have some variation of same idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wackyserious Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 The pegasus emblem that I found in the art/resource is actually quite good, I have tweaked and re-used it, as you can see below. Quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 I mean same style some variety special this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wackyserious Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 The bulky and hard-edged lambda looks too modern, IMO. We need to research more about it. No problem with the sun-rays and other motifs, the aspis asset has it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 1 minute ago, wackyserious said: The bulky and hard-edged lambda looks too modern, IMO. We need to research more about it. No problem with the sun-rays and other motifs, the aspis asset has it. That's we need Classic Greek artist, I'm most roman Imperial and Successors than Classic Greek. @wowgetoffyourcellphone he was a very older modder in AoM heaven. the better with. I made the Mauryans set ...so for low or trash basic unit I make damaged and low cheap shields for them, may be use with some blood or firty. and for elite I give the nicer look. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 8 minutes ago, wackyserious said: No problem with the sun-rays and other motifs, the aspis asset has it. Yeah, but thru original wasn't planned to have those features. those AO textures or spec textures. was planned one, those effects were programmer later around 2011-2012.(Alpha 6-9). Only the older like @Wijitmaker can say about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Lambda as shield pattern is a later design. I would just update the current designs in the game if you want to do that. No use making 5 or 6 new variations of one design. When I say update the current designs, do for resolution of course but also to remove a lot of those baked shadows. Just some thoughts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted November 26, 2017 Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 4 hours ago, wackyserious said: I believe this is the reference that was used for the Spartan champion's aspis (shield) design. https://stefanosskarmintzos.wordpress.com/2011/12/16/spartan-shield-devices-episimon/ Very good info 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted November 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2017 Thats gorgeous art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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