Crowd-Sourced Civ: Ptolemaic Egyptians (Ptolemies)

[LordGood]

These will have to look shoddily built then, especially in relation to the limestone buildings. That would require some awesome textures

Onwards! To Egypt!

[Mythos_Ruler]

These will have to look shoddily built then, especially in relation to the limestone buildings. That would require some awesome textures

Onwards! To Egypt!

I was thinking maybe crib the look and feel from the Age2 Egyptian buildings from Age of Mythology, at least the aforementioned houses, mills, farmsteads, and corrals, while the other buildings would be grander, like the Age 3 and Age 4 buildings from the Age of Mythology Egyptian set. Not the exact designs, just the general look for reference.

[Pedro Falcão]

Age of Mythology buildings look awesome, they had success in passing to the player the feel they wanted to pass in AoE1.

[Sunqur]

I am not in favor of the Galatian heavy swordsmen to represent Ptolemaic Eqypt. I would replace the swordsmen with the marines (ill look up their names later). I remember reading several articles that supported many variants of Egyptian-Greco native troops.

I'm also not in favor of the Galatian heavy swordsmen and would replace them with native axemen: http://clientes.netvisao.pt/almadeira/images/units/Egyptian_Axeman-Large.gif

http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads5/Egyptian_Axeman1.gif

[Mythos_Ruler]

I'm also not in favor of the Galatian heavy swordsmen and would replace them with native axemen: http://clientes.netv...xeman-Large.gif

http://www.civfanati...ian_Axeman1.gif

"Axemen" would not be historically accurate to the period, unless you're talking about palace guards, and even then I wouldn't make them citizen-soldiers. There were up to 6,000 Gauls (Galatians) and Thracians fighting for Egypt at the Battle of Raphia, which is basically the time period the Ptolemy forces are being modeled off of. No where on the battlefield were there Egyptian Marines or Egyptian Axemen.

[lilstewie]

Some architecture

Ships

Macedonian soldiers

http://en.wikipedia....c_of_Palestrina

The Nile mosaic of Palestrina is a late Hellenistic floor mosaic depicting the Nile in its passage from Ethiopia to the Mediterranean. It has a width of 5.85 metres and a height of 4.31 metres and provides the only glimpse into the Roman fascination with Egyptian exoticism in the 1st century BC, both as an early manifestation of the role of Egypt in the European imagination and an example of the genre of "Nilotic landscape", with a long iconographic history in Egypt and the Aegean.

Edited April 8, 2013 by lilstewie

[Enrique]

Ptolemies FTW!

I plan to add 3 variations more, seated, walking and a ¿female? all gathered in a 1024x1024 texture. Polycount is around 2k, but they will be quite big in-game.

[Zaggy1024]

Perhaps you should make the texture look a bit more washed-out, it doesn't really look like it's painted to me. Also, the eye shadow looks a bit sharp.

[Shield Bearer]

Yeah, decrease the saturation a bit and I think it'll be fine

[wraitii]

Agreed. It's a little saturated (perhaps it looks different in-game though, seems like this is a Blender render with some approximate AO).

I'm a little concerned some buildings will be too decorated, but if the texture is for fancy buildings it should be all-right.

(and I'm hoping you will give the Egyptian building the same sort of "resting in the sun" feel as to the Carthaginians one. Dunno where that comes from, though. Might be that they have a stronger AO.)

[Enrique]

Making some research before painting the sculpture, It looks like they painted with very vivid hues their sculptures.

Imagine these ones thousands of years ago, they look really nice painted. I don't think they looked washed-out.

.jpg"]http://www.globalegyptianmuseum.org/images/EMC/_400/em-0-0-s2-14747_800x800[1].jpg

http://www.edu.pe.ca/rural/class_webs/art/images/Nefertiti.jpg

[sanderd17]

Ptolemies FTW!

I plan to add 3 variations more, seated, walking and a ¿female? all gathered in a 1024x1024 texture. Polycount is around 2k, but they will be quite big in-game.

Colors look great to me (I also thought they used vivid colors), but the feet look a bit un-detailed to me. If you see the detail of the drawings below the statue, you would also expect to see some tones on the feet. It's also something you see very well from the game's bird perspective.

[Shield Bearer]

made a few changes here. Basically I didn't like the colours there, the yellow was more on the green side and the blue looked too...playful? IDK but it didn't suit the mood Here I'm only talking about the ornaments, not the skin(though I think its a tad bit too 'white').

[LordGood]

Would they have used gold and lapis on a limestone sculpture though, or mixed a less saturated pigment back then?

that blue seems really bright to me too.

I like Shield bearer's blue

Edited April 9, 2013 by LordGood

[wraitii]

I think a middle ground between both images is pretty good (leaning towards Amish's version). Depends on how actually vivid it was IRL, but the original image does look too blue to me.

Also: I think perhaps the pedestal is a little too detailed, texture-wise, it contrasts a lot with the statue and it probably won't be possible to see in-game anyway... (particularly the top, I don't really mind the sides).

[Enrique]

I also like Amish blue and yellow color proposal

I'll paint his toes and make the color changes after that

EDIT:

Also: I think perhaps the pedestal is a little too detailed, texture-wise, it contrasts a lot with the statue and it probably won't be possible to see in-game anyway... (particularly the top, I don't really mind the sides).

Pedestal is just something I made quickly just to let it stand somewhere I'll take your suggestion into account

[Pedro Falcão]

I think their faces should look more serious/angry. It's looking a bit too relaxed, currently.

[Enrique]

I think their faces should look more serious/angry. It's looking a bit too relaxed, currently.

Egyptian sculptures is the definition of "lack of expression" itself! (leaning a bit towards happy)

[Enrique]

New color left, old colors right.

[wraitii]

Now it's the red on the thingy on top of the loincloth/skirt (however it's called) that's a bit too saturated, to me. The others look really good though!

[Lion.Kanzen]

I was have a little mistake with last Emblem but im not sure if this can be the last Version

My mistake Was the name of Ptolemy "PTOLEMAIOU FILOPATOROS"

Edited April 9, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

Alternate Version.

[Zaggy1024]

Enrique, the fact that the eyebrows and eyelashes don't end in points, like in the second reference you posted, bothers me a bit. perhaps you should repaint those?

[Lion.Kanzen]

Yes. But I don't know what color or texture are, the beast for background, a I was inspired to Athenians emblem and the Macedonian. But I bother me too but is hard to fix. Tomorrow I try to do a new boder. And other tiny fixies.

But that is original border of the coin that, I was convert into a symbol .

Edited April 10, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen

[Enrique]

Enrique, the fact that the eyebrows and eyelashes don't end in points, like in the second reference you posted, bothers me a bit. perhaps you should repaint those?

Could you explain a little bit?