Outis Posted February 7 Author Report Share Posted February 7 59 minutes ago, Stan` said: @Itms told me he'd look into it. I gave him access to a win7 VM. Thank you, you guys are the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxenstierna Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Please give a sign in this thread when I can download it with Windows 7 . Until now I was not able by torrent or instead. And you would have to change that, one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Yeah sorry about that, we only updated one spot during FOSDEM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxenstierna Posted February 8 Report Share Posted February 8 Ah.... don't excuse, it's no problem ... just tell me, when I'm able to download ... thank you for support Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outis Posted Monday at 19:50 Author Report Share Posted Monday at 19:50 Sssooo, is it fair to assume this is no longer investigated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deicide4u Posted Monday at 21:21 Report Share Posted Monday at 21:21 @Outis, Alpha 27 won't work with Windows 7 and earlier. If you have Windows 7, you're out of luck until you either upgrade or switch to a recent version of Linux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seleucids Posted 20 hours ago Report Share Posted 20 hours ago 12 hours ago, Outis said: Sssooo, is it fair to assume this is no longer investigated? Seems like it's not. Windows 7 is a dead OS of the past. My sincere recommendation is to install an easy Linux distribution, e.g Endeavour OS. Wipe out your old hard drive and you will see so much performance improvement. 0ad also has no problems on it. If you are a hardcore windows fan, install win11 then inject atlas os into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outis Posted 18 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 18 hours ago Thanks a lot @Deicide4u and @Seleucids for the replies. I guess i will get a new laptop as my current one is very old. Do you know when support for Windows 8 will stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Outis said: Do you know when support for Windows 8 will stop? Microsoft stopped supporting Windows 8 in 2023. And this is a very unpopular OS. So I won't expect 0AD to work with Win8 and clearly it is not in the scope of the devs to maintain compatibility with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago (edited) https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2024/10/how-to-install-0-ad-on-linux-mint-22.html?m=1 Edited 18 hours ago by Genava55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outis Posted 16 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 2 hours ago, Genava55 said: Microsoft stopped supporting Windows 8 in 2023. And this is a very unpopular OS. So I won't expect 0AD to work with Win8 and clearly it is not in the scope of the devs to maintain compatibility with it. Do you mean starting with the very next release, Windows 8 will not be supported as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 32 minutes ago, Outis said: Do you mean starting with the very next release, Windows 8 will not be supported as well? I would say that if it currently works with win8, it is pure luck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted 15 hours ago Report Share Posted 15 hours ago 3 hours ago, Genava55 said: I won't expect 0AD to work with Win8 It does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outis Posted 14 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 hours ago, Genava55 said: https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2024/10/how-to-install-0-ad-on-linux-mint-22.html?m=1 Hey @Genava55, i take this recommendation to heart, but i have never used linux and i have so many questions which i cannot clarify completely... i read it may be risky to install both linux and windows on the same drive, and i have only one drive. Also, is the performance good with hdd or is it severely reduced like with windows 10? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted 13 hours ago Report Share Posted 13 hours ago 1 hour ago, Outis said: Also, is the performance good with hdd or is it severely reduced like with windows 10? Linux Mint 22.1 is quite similar to Windows 7 in its requirement. It should work. I would recommend Linux Mint XFCE, as it is the lightest version. https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/choose.html 1 hour ago, Outis said: i read it may be risky to install both linux and windows on the same drive, It is not that risky but it requires some experience. You need to create partitions, choosing the right format for the partition in common, enabling the choosing of the OS at the start of the computer. It is a bit difficult. However, if you want to try linux, you can also create a USB bootable disk. It will run from the USB. It won't have great performance but it is ok to test it. https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/burn.html https://linuxmint-installation-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/boot.html 1 hour ago, Outis said: i have so many questions which i cannot clarify completely I can try to help you and maybe other people can give their insights. I will suggest you several questions to guide you through an answer: - What is your current computer, laptop or dekstop? - Is this your only computer or do you have other computers (laptops or desktops, no tablets) - What is your usage of this computer? Which applications you are using the most? - You are using an outdated Windows OS, why have you not switched to Win10 or Win11 ? - Buying a new computer cost money, switching to Linux cost time. What do you have more of, time or money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seleucids Posted 9 hours ago Report Share Posted 9 hours ago 5 hours ago, Outis said: .. i read it may be risky to install both linux and windows on the same drive, and i have only one drive. Also, is the performance good with hdd or is it severely reduced like with windows 10? Not risky at all if you know what you are doing. If you want dual boot, install Windows first, then shrink up your disk partition in "create and format partitions" tool, then install Linux on the freed disk sectors. This is because the handicapped Windows installer cannot create and resize disk partitions without destroying everything... Regarding the choice of Linux distribution, LInux Mint is a beginner friendly OS but its 0ad package is outdated, you will either get A26 or need some long-winded way to get the latest release. That's why I recommended Endeavour OS, as it uses pacman and is always giving you the latest updates. It's totally up to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outis Posted 8 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 8 hours ago 3 hours ago, Genava55 said: I can try to help you and maybe other people can give their insights. Youre very kind indeed. 3 hours ago, Genava55 said: - What is your current computer, laptop or dekstop? Hmm. Well... Prepare to be mindblown... Im playing with my laptop, Intel Core i7 Q720 1.60 GHz with 2GB RAM, NVIDIA Geaforce GT 335M graphic card. 3 hours ago, Genava55 said: - Is this your only computer or do you have other computers (laptops or desktops, no tablets) I have half a mind to appropriate my wife's laptop because it runs Windows 10, cannot upgrade to Windows 11, and after Windows 10's end of life, she will not use it. Specs are: Intel Core i5-5200U @2 20 GHz with 8GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 820M graphic card 3 hours ago, Genava55 said: - What is your usage of this computer? Which applications you are using the most? I only play 0 AD with this machine nowadays. 3 hours ago, Genava55 said: - You are using an outdated Windows OS, why have you not switched to Win10 or Win11 ? Well, as mentioned, I only use this for 0 AD. I keep it disconnected from Internet. I use my work laptop or my wife's laptop in case I need a Windows device for any other task. Why so old? I did not upgrade to Win 8 because Win 7 is great and Win 8 is... well... Win 8. Win 10 was out of question due to the specs as you might have guessed. I took good care of it and it served its purpose until now. 4 hours ago, Genava55 said: - Buying a new computer cost money, switching to Linux cost time. What do you have more of, time or money? I have both, but soon I will have none... because we are having a baby!!! Well, I might want to buy a new laptop for other reasons. As I mentioned, my wife will want a new Windows laptop after Win 10's end of life this October. Also it is when the baby is due, so she will be home without the work laptop and may need a personal laptop more. My laptop is too old now and having other problems like loud fan noise, broken keys, dead battery etc. Another option is to install Linux to my wife's old laptop and use that, but dual operating system won't work because it can't handle Win 11. I have never used Linux, but I am open minded. Would you recommend going with Linux alone? I mean I think Microsoft office programs won't work and that may be a deal breaker... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outis Posted 7 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Seleucids said: Not risky at all if you know what you are doing. If you want dual boot, install Windows first, then shrink up your disk partition in "create and format partitions" tool, then install Linux on the freed disk sectors. This is because the handicapped Windows installer cannot create and resize disk partitions without destroying everything... Regarding the choice of Linux distribution, LInux Mint is a beginner friendly OS but its 0ad package is outdated, you will either get A26 or need some long-winded way to get the latest release. That's why I recommended Endeavour OS, as it uses pacman and is always giving you the latest updates. It's totally up to you. So, I understand the Linux world is quite wide compared to Windows... Which distribution would you recommend for old laptops? By the way, I am looking to run A27 as I have no problems running A26 with Win 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Outis said: Hmm. Well... Prepare to be mindblown... Im playing with my laptop, Intel Core i7 Q720 1.60 GHz with 2GB RAM, NVIDIA Geaforce GT 335M graphic card. That's ok. This is really an old and low-end laptop but it should still work with Linux Mint, just choose the XFCE edition. 26 minutes ago, Outis said: I have half a mind to appropriate my wife's laptop because it runs Windows 10, cannot upgrade to Windows 11, and after Windows 10's end of life, she will not use it. Specs are: Intel Core i5-5200U @2 20 GHz with 8GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce 820M graphic card Yeah it is much better. You can keep using Windows 10 after the end of the support. The only issue is with the integrated OneDrive, but that's all. 29 minutes ago, Outis said: I only play 0 AD with this machine nowadays. I understand, it should still work for a while, 0AD requirement is quite low. 36 minutes ago, Outis said: I have both, but soon I will have none... because we are having a baby!!! Congrats! 40 minutes ago, Outis said: As I mentioned, my wife will want a new Windows laptop after Win 10's end of life this October. Also it is when the baby is due, so she will be home without the work laptop and may need a personal laptop more. My laptop is too old now and having other problems like loud fan noise, broken keys, dead battery etc. I see. Indeed I would look for a new laptop for your wife, even a second-hand. You could also force the Win10 laptop to upgrade to Win11 but it requires several manipulations. If I were you, I'd try to switch to the laptop with Windows 10 in the near future. The OS will still be stable for several years, at least for recreational use. The other option is to share the Windows 10 laptop with your office, which can handle easily two accounts. Depending on how much you are playing. In the meantime, if the old laptop isn't being used for other things and personal data has already been backed up, then I think it's worth trying a Linux OS. I won't even try to make two partitions on the old laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deicide4u Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago @Outis As mentioned, try the Linux Mint XFCE edition on your old laptop. Backup all important data first onto a USB drive or external drive, then install over the Windows 7 partition (wipe everything). You really don't need it if you only use that laptop for playing 0 A.D. Don't try using Endeavour OS, it's not really for total beginners. Once you install Linux Mint, set up Flatpak and install 0 A.D. using Flatpak's repo. That will give you the latest version for cost of a little more HDD space. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, Outis said: Would you recommend going with Linux alone? I mean I think Microsoft office programs won't work and that may be a deal breaker... For the old laptop yeah, Linux alone is okay. About Office, it is depending on how much you are using it. LibreOffice is a fine alternative. But if it is a Win7 laptop, you are probably using an old version of microsoft Office anyway. 11 minutes ago, Outis said: So, I understand the Linux world is quite wide compared to Windows... Yeah, don't leave nerds unsupervised, or they'll create something overly complicated. 1 hour ago, Seleucids said: LInux Mint is a beginner friendly OS but its 0ad package is outdated I don't think that's really an issue, it is easy to use the flatpak, which is up-to-date with alpha 27. https://www.linuxmadesimple.info/2024/10/how-to-install-0-ad-on-linux-mint-22.html?m=1 https://flathub.org/apps/com.play0ad.zeroad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outis Posted 7 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Genava55 said: You can keep using Windows 10 after the end of the support. Well, not really... Win 10 and HDD are not a good combination... I was throwing around downgrading this one to Win 8 as an option, hence my question about Win 8 above. I can feel my beard grow as I watch this one boot up... 14 minutes ago, Genava55 said: Congrats! Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outis Posted 7 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Deicide4u said: a little more HDD space. This is not an issue for me at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outis Posted 7 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 7 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Genava55 said: But if it is a Win7 laptop, you are probably using an old version of microsoft Office anyway. This is mainly for my wife. For office stuff, I can use my work laptop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted 7 hours ago Report Share Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 8 minutes ago, Outis said: Well, not really... Win 10 and HDD are not a good combination... Either we've misunderstood each other, or your wife's laptop runs on a HDD too. Edited 7 hours ago by Genava55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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