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[Poll] Reserve "1" hotkey for cycling civic centers?


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What do you think about binding the key "1" to cycle all available civic centers?  

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  1. 1. What do you think about binding the key "1" to cycle all available civic centers?

    • I can manage my expansions, armies and buildings all with 10 control groups. There is no change neccessary. All hotkeys should be settable by the player for flexibility.
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    • It would be helpful, as i have too many buildings and units to handle in late game. Using only one hotkey for two or three CC would help with that.
      2
    • It could also be of use for other commonly used building types, like barracks. (1 = cycle CCs, 2 = cycle barracks...)
      2
    • The hotkeys 2-10 should be settable by the player for flexibility. No additional cycle functionality for other buildings than CC.
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disclaimer: this is no "official poll"; it is simply put here out of interest.

Hello everyone :)

Description: 

Handling many units + buildings via control groups in late game can be a tedious thing, because logically there is a limit of 10 bindable buttons. Expecially after expanding with 2nd CC, there are even more buildings in more different places to handle.

I wondered if i was just too bad at the game and in lack of micro, or if you encountered a similiar problem in some games.

:idea:
A solution could be to have one hotkey bound not to select a single CC, but to cycle all the available CCs, in order of building.

You are welcome to partake in the poll, so that we may see some representation here :)

Thanks for your time

Cheers 

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I'm absolutely against pre-defining the 0-9 hotkeys. While I usually have my first CC, and maybe my second CC too, on 0 (=source), they usually become obsolete as a production facility eventually. (Producing champions and whatnot at other buildings.)

btw I think the mod "autociv" has more hotkeys, but I never looked into it.

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3 hours ago, Gurken Khan said:

I'm absolutely against pre-defining the 0-9 hotkeys. While I usually have my first CC, and maybe my second CC too, on 0 (=source), they usually become obsolete as a production facility eventually. (Producing champions and whatnot at other buildings.)

btw I think the mod "autociv" has more hotkeys, but I never looked into it.

Here is a list of default one in the mod but you can add arbitrary combinations of them
 

    "hotkey.autociv.open.autociv_readme": "Shift+F4",
    "hotkey.autociv.gamesetup.focus.chatInput": "Alt+Q",
    "hotkey.autociv.lobby.focus.chatInput": "Alt+Q",
    "hotkey.autociv.lobby.focus.gameList": "Alt+W",
    "hotkey.autociv.lobby.host": "Ctrl+N",
    "hotkey.autociv.CLI.toggle": "Ctrl+C+L",
    "hotkey.autociv.CLI.stdout.toggle": "Alt+S",
    "hotkey.autociv.CLI.stdout.eval": "Alt+E",
    "hotkey.autociv.lobby.gameList.selected.join": "Alt+E",
    "hotkey.autociv.selection.nowoundedonly": "K",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.exit": "Shift+Escape",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.minimap.expand.toggle": "Shift+Tab",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.amphitheater_pompeii": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.apadana": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.arch": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.army_camp": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.arsenal": "Space+A",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.assembly": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.barracks": "Space+B",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.camp_blemmye": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.camp_noba": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.civil_centre": "Space+C",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.corral": "Space+K",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.crannog": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.defense_tower": "Space+D",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.dock": "Space+J",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.elephant_stables": "Space+Q",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.embassy": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.embassy_celtic": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.embassy_iberian": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.embassy_italic": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.farmstead": "Space+G",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.field": "Space+F",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.forge": "Space+N",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.fortress": "Space+R",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.gerousia": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.gymnasium": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.hall": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.house": "Space+H",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.inn": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.library": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.lighthouse": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.market": "Space+M",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.mercenary_camp": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.military_colony": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.monument": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.outpost": "Space+O",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.palace": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.pillar_ashoka": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.prytaneion": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.pyramid_large": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.pyramid_small": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.range": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.rotarymill": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.royal_stoa": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.sentry_tower": "Space+Y",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.shrine": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.stable": "Space+V",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.storehouse": "Space+S",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.super_dock": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.syssiton": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.tacara": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.tavern": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.temple": "Space+T",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.temple_amun": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.temple_mars": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.temple_vesta": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.theater": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.tophet": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.tower_artillery": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.tower_babylon": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.tower_bolt": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.tower_double": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.wallset_short": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.wallset_siege": "Space+U",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.wallset_stone": "Space+W",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.wallset_palisade": "Space+E",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.warehouse": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.building.place.wonder": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.amphitheater_pompeii": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.apadana": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.arch": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.army_camp": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.arsenal": "Ctrl+A",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.assembly": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.barracks": "Ctrl+X",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.camp_blemmye": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.camp_noba": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.civil_centre": "Ctrl+C",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.corral": "Ctrl+K",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.crannog": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.defense_tower": "Ctrl+D",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.dock": "Ctrl+J",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.elephant_stables": "Ctrl+Q",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.embassy": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.embassy_celtic": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.embassy_iberian": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.embassy_italic": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.farmstead": "Ctrl+G",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.field": "Ctrl+F",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.forge": "Ctrl+N",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.fortress": "Ctrl+R",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.gerousia": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.gymnasium": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.hall": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.house": "Ctrl+H",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.inn": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.library": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.lighthouse": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.market": "Ctrl+M",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.mercenary_camp": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.military_colony": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.monument": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.outpost": "Ctrl+O",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.palace": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.pillar_ashoka": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.prytaneion": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.pyramid_large": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.pyramid_small": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.range": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.rotarymill": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.royal_stoa": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.sentry_tower": "Ctrl+Y",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.shrine": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.stable": "Ctrl+Z",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.storehouse": "Ctrl+V",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.super_dock": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.syssiton": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.tacara": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.tavern": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.temple": "Ctrl+T",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.temple_amun": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.temple_mars": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.temple_vesta": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.theater": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.tophet": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.tower_artillery": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.tower_babylon": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.tower_bolt": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.tower_double": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.wallset_short": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.wallset_siege": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.wallset_stone": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.wallset_palisade": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.warehouse": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.select.wonder": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.class.select.Support&Worker|(Support&Elephant)": "Alt+A",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.class.select.(Soldier|Siege|Dog)&!Ship": "Alt+S",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.class.select.Cavalry": "Alt+E",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.class.select.Cavalry.by.group.none": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.class.select.Ranged": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.class.select.Infantry": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.class.select.Siege": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.health.nowounded.by.class.select.Cavalry": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.health.wounded.by.class.select.Cavalry": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.rank.1": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.rank.2": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.rank.3": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.state.idle": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.screen.yes": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.entity.by.screen.no": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.production.queue.clear": "Alt+R",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.null": "Space+1",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.box": "Space+2",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.column_closed": "Space+3",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.line_closed": "Space+4",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.column_open": "Space+5",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.line_open": "Space+6",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.flank": "Space+7",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.skirmish": "Space+8",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.wedge": "Space+9",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.battle_line": "Space+0",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.syntagma": "Space+'",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.anti_cavalry": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.phalanx": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.scatter": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.formation.set.testudo": "",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.stance.set.violent": "Alt+1",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.stance.set.aggressive": "Alt+2",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.stance.set.defensive": "Alt+3",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.stance.set.passive": "Alt+4",
    "hotkey.autociv.session.stance.set.standground": "Alt+5",
    "hotkey.autociv.group.button.garrison": "Ctrl"
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If you are more familiar with AOE gameplay, "cycling" through CCs is common, but in 0ad, gameplay is much less CC oriented because economy largely comes from the barracks.

In a typical more competitive game, players will end up with 1 or 2 CCs. With additional CCs used for resource acquisition or offensive positions.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to cycle through the CCs, but that it might not be as helpful as it is in AOE2.

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13 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

If you are more familiar with AOE gameplay, "cycling" through CCs is common, but in 0ad, gameplay is much less CC oriented because economy largely comes from the barracks.

In a typical more competitive game, players will end up with 1 or 2 CCs. With additional CCs used for resource acquisition or offensive positions.

I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to cycle through the CCs, but that it might not be as helpful as it is in AOE2.

Thanks for the background information :) 

 

14 hours ago, nani said:

Here is a list of default one in the mod but you can add arbitrary combinations of them

Looks quite interesting. Since i am using autociv, will check this out.

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Already voted.

Just wanted to share my hotkeys layout:

5 for Main CC, 4 for barracks, 6 for blacskmith. 0 for marketplace and storehouses.

1, 2 and 3 for army. sometimes I have only one army all in #1. Sometimes a separated group in #2. #3 for cavalry. Sometimes I have 1 for army, 2 for hero. It depends on the situation.

And last but not least, 4 for my house builders ^-^

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