alextheo Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 As the title suggests, Fin Whale is shown in Fog of War. Matter of fact, it is also shown when it has not be spotted before. I first came up to this bug when trying out Corinthian Isthmus scenario and then reaffirmed it on Cycladic Archipelago scenario, too. On the screenshot below you can see the whale in its first appearance on the map. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternstaub Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Deer and sheep are also shown in FoW (afaik). Perhaps it is intended and not a bug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freagarach Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Sort of intended/bug. See https://trac.wildfiregames.com/ticket/3201 and https://code.wildfiregames.com/D1997. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alextheo Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 To be honest I have not noticed that, but I tested the shark and it is not shown even if it has been spotted before. As soon as it goes out of vision and it enters the fog of war, it disappears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, alextheo said: To be honest I have not noticed that, but I tested the shark and it is not shown even if it has been spotted before. As soon as it goes out of vision and it enters the fog of war, it disappears. The shark is more of a decorative object. But then, that should probably make it persistent in fow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akira Kurosawa Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) Why not remake the mobile aquatic fauna in accordance with the Age of Empires III, making instead of unit-whales a simple stationary animation of a whale, where food will be collected? This will also reduce the number of objects on the map and reduce game slowdowns. Edited February 23, 2023 by Thulsa Doom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: The shark is more of a decorative object. So are the whales for me. I never bother with them. Either I don't need military ships where they are, so I don't build any just for hunting. When I did hunt them, they ended up so far from harbors that they weren't an efficient source of food. Or they fled where war ships couldn't follow, because a lot of water maps aren't made for our gigantic war ships. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alextheo Posted February 23, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 Something must be done. Either the fauna which is not shown (e.g. shark) or the fauna which is shown (e.g. whale) should be changed to match the other. All moving animals should be treated the same. We should not rely on whether they are more useful or more decorative than others. This is subjective anyway. They are on the same level of "abstraction". Also, how can I see a whale in fog of war which I have not seen before, but when I lose vision of a shark it turns invisible in fog of war? The game needs to be somewhat realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sternstaub Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, alextheo said: Something must be done. ...but who do? ^^ 42 minutes ago, Thulsa Doom said: Why not remake the mobile aquatic fauna in accordance with the Age of Empires III, Such kind of rework can be a big task. Although it is good to share and compare / discuss such idea for improvement, there must be a priority set by the WFG team. There is currently work to be done for the A27 release. You can also try to get into the code yourself and implement such feature yourself, if the forum discussion shows that it is desired It is what makes FOSS strong. Edited February 23, 2023 by sternstaub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperion Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, alextheo said: Either the fauna which is not shown (e.g. shark) or the fauna which is shown (e.g. whale) should be changed to match the other One is a resource the other not, there is no inconsistency here. This is the same as AoE2 AFAIR. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 hours ago, alextheo said: Something must be done. I like the status quo as well as @hyperion and don't think we need a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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