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@seeh @Langbart if you are interested,there are some similar things here (on 3900 games)

That's probably due to a wave of renaming. That's meaningful for text displayed in game. The cost / reward is less obvious for filenames...

(names are probably different in 0 A.D., those are from Fork AD) For rain, you have those ones: random/extinct_volcano.js random/rmbiome/fields_of_meroe/rainy.json skirmishes/Deccan_Plateau_2.xml skirmishes/Gambia_River_3.xml skirmishes/Punjab_2.xml You have also maps with fireflies or volcan dust. You have more chance to find nice maps in the skirmishes and scenario category. That one from @nani is nice for example:

Those topics have been widely debated all among the forum or the ticket manager. I won't provide you answers as that's not my role but give you some elements. I start with that point as it has effect on the other points. It's really common in some other games. Some discussions few years ago concluded it doesn't fit really with the game as it is: keeping "civilization" (call that how you want) diversity. But technically, both case are already doable, so that's just a matter of decision of what to do in your game/mod. As said above, it's really common in other games. There is a ticket about that. I don't know if that's wanted : decide what to do with the above point, decide if that's fair to give units to your ally just to prevent him of dying, decide if you can give units or structure. Apart from that matter of design, there is just the gui part : placing the button at the nice place. Already doable and mainly depends of the first point and a matter of victory conditions. That's mainly a matter of design, do you want that one to be randomly selected ? That kind of thing was evoked for a roman hero. That's mainly a passive conversion. That was evoked for converting animals or citizen woman. There are a lot of way of doing that, the annoying part is to design something which fits well in game (not becoming too important and not being useless) and which actually brings something.

Weather, seasons and things like are widely discussed in the forum. The answers will probably depend of your point of view : graphical or gameplay related. I understand you speak more about the graphical part. In that case, I think it depends mostly of artists. For example, for the winter part we would have to switch to the snowy variants of all structures and things like that: that needs a lot of artwork. (But that's doable and was even done). 2. Perhaps does it depends mainly of the map maker ? 3. It's yet done I think : there are maps with rain or snow.

Nice! I guess that this kind of special feel was the initial purpose of having different "civilizations" (even if exaggerating or simplifying history or abstracting "reality").

I don't think we have added code to support that, I'll check.

Thanks for the inputs above.

Oh sorry! It was in 2014, the decision was made to remove hard counters (like the rps designed in the early years) and replace them with stats (speed, accuracy, range...) and gameplay features (flanking, ...).

That was actually like that 7 years ago.

Yes, see:

Just as there is unlocking technologies, there could be unlocking structures. One use of those structures would just be to unlock the corresponding units, not to actually produce them (barrack is for that).

That was posted many times. Those things were around 2014. At the time there was a design group, then one person in charge of the gameplay. That was the beginning of the lobby too. A time of changes: https://trac.wildfiregames.com/changeset/15644 https://trac.wildfiregames.com/changeset/15655 https://trac.wildfiregames.com/changeset/15713 Decision of moving to hard counters to gameplay features: But then, there was an appraisal of those changes:

Oh sorry :-) I had opened that discussion (among others) back in 2017: Can we remove that limit? To be more precise, there wasn't really a concept of mercenary in the initial_design* of that game. The notion appeared among the years of the development of that game, with different meaning: artistic, names, technologies, structures... Some experiments were done, more in DE ("delenda est") than in EA ("public"). Around 2017 there were some big and nice art commits importing the green portraits from DE mods, so we tried to fit with it. There wasn't any guideline in the team around that concept, so basically there were just not discussed fix around that idea at the time, in random directions (put those things in green, reduce their cost, use a technology, oh a mercenary champion now...). Note that it happened even if there was someone in charge of the gameplay at that time (which is still in charge if I am not wrong) and also big plan from the project leader (which is still in charge if I am not wrong) about the game design that I don't know if they were done or followed. In the initial design of 2004, which was considered to be some kind of flexible "let's design and follow that", there was a concept of tribes, reflected in art and names of units to show the diversity of armies and "civilizations" of that time. So there wasn't a "Mercenary" class. Sum up: - nuke the mercenary concept - if units are duplicates, adjust their costs and combat stats - embassies are unlocking structures

In 0 A.D., the unit "dancing" was pointed out as an annoying issue until a23, especially in multiplayer lobby games. The ability to dodge projectiles is not something specific to that game and probably not even a bug. In old release, projectiles were just head seeker. Then there was some kind of targeting. So the ability to dodge them is not new, it was already used in multiplayer lobby games around a16 if I remember correctly. It becomes probably worse when the patrol command was introduced, when that exploit was more known and when people used it with high resistance units like hero. I know that I have already ask the question and that this issue is considered fixed in a24. Still, I would like to know from a player point of view, what is really annoying : - ability to dodge units with micro - ability to dodge units in an automated way (patrol for example) - the fact that units target the closest one And for example : - is a low resistance unit dancing annoying? - is 1 attacker vs 1 dancer an as big issue as 10 attacker vs 1 dancer? All inputs welcome.

As opposite to concerns about game data (units stats...) that's more a concern about code. Those type of concerns (even if they intersected) should really be treated separately. I don't want to participate more in that topic, I just wanted to precise some things so that the initial author of the topic is not misunderstood.

Perhaps you had a program which didn't call enet_deinitialize()? You can try to reboot or something like that and try again.

Thanks for your interesting input! You are absolutely right. We wanted to detect ai flaws and civ flaws through those 3900 games. The ticket you point out would be a good complement! Thanks for pointing it.

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Do you think showing elephants in those stats is relevant?

Yes, that's it. Thanks @thankforpieOfficial for the input.

I never looked at those things which are quite interesting, this one pops in a script results and sounds specific enough to be of interest.

I really don't know how that works, there seems to be an accumulation of faces around the side base of the arrow and the end of the arrow.