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Please don't misunderstand - my point was not to criticise and I do enjoy the passionate discussion in this forum about historical aspects of the game! Just believe we should make it interesting to a beginner, and this motivation would most likely be increased if the scenario and the civ was a popular, well-known one. (Also the map needs to be beautifu; we just have so many beautiful maps it is difficult to select onel )

It's normal, it's a debate where everyone defends their points. That's why I'm going to try to reuse all the ideas presented. They all work.

What about Alexandria Eschate ? It was the most remote colony founded by Alexander, in the very northeastern corner of the empire. Some conflicts with the Scythians are recorded in its early days. Most interestingly, though, they also fought (and lost) a large war against the Han Chinese - yes, the War of the Heavenly Horses. An incredibly fascinating piece of history. I mean, ancient Greeks meeting and fighting the ancient Chinese, how cool is that? There are some issues with this idea too, though, as said war took place more than a century after the foundation, when Alexandria Eschate was already part of the (also really interesting) Greco-Bactrian kingdom. So, it would require a significant time jump; I'm already breaking my own principles...

Could work. Though, I don't think a colony from Alexander the grate would have any problem establishing itself. Alexander the Great had the manpower to get behind it. I don't want it to seem like I'm shooting ideas down or anything, just trying to point out (in my opinion) valid criticism.

New idea: What about colonies established by Alexander the Great? They were founded in the correct time frame. Plus, we have the Macedonians as a civ, and several they fought against. Of course, Alexandria (in Egypt) would be the obvious pick, but there are some other interesting ones as well.

Yeah, in the worst case we could resort to something like that. But I really hope we find some suitable history instead.

I think we can use one. My idea still works, and some people have suggested other colonies that would work. We just need to settle on one and start scripting/ researching/designing.

Massalia would be cool, but it has the same issues as Cyrene, Syracuse, and Tarentum: We don't have the involved civilizations in the game. I know, there is the option of creating entirely new units and buildings just for the campaign. But, firstly, I don't think that would be worth the effort. And, secondly, the tutorial should not only introduce the players to the gameplay, but also the content the game offers. Wouldn't you find it odd if you played through the whole campaign as the "Phocaeans" only to find out afterwards that they're not not even a playable civilization in the rest of the game?

I still think that Massalia is a better candidate if you want to go in the direction of a colony campaign. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massalia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Founding_myth_of_Marseille Massalia later founded other colonies, notably Agathe, Antipolis and Nikaia. The other solution would be Hasdrubal the Fair, he was the predecessor of Hannibal and he founded Cartagena. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasdrubal_the_Fair https://punicwars.org/people/hasdrubal-the-fair

It's possible but the representation would likely be too big. It's better to rely on the the source for the replays.

I think there is a room for improvement here: save the game state to the replay files, so that everything can be reconstructed?

I think he's saying that way, waaaaay back those were the planned campaigns. We can do whatever we want now.