Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Since there is not much archeology, we are going to reconstruct and speculate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 No Bikini mail or plate? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Gurken Khan said: No Bikini mail or plate? 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 sorry for The off topic but... I had already touched on how demeaning Evony's publicity was. sorry mod team for filling this sacred page with impure things. https://gamezandlife.blogspot.com/2009/11/evolution-of-evony-with-pictures.html?m=1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player of 0AD Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 As each 0AD player knows, female armor looked exactly like this: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Yeah, when this topic popped up I thought to look up our Visha Kanyas; their attire is even more bikini-ish then I remembered... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 25 minutes ago, Player of 0AD said: As each 0AD player knows, female armor looked exactly like this: The reliefs leave less to the imagination. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 +5 defense 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 going back to the topic. It would look great on queens of the Balkans. The Illyrians had a queen I forget the name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Someone for some reason dedicated himself to uploading Iberian female warriors. These catch my attention, it's how we supposed women in chain mail. (Sorry there aren't bikinis) just reality, loose chain mail. Are they Celto-Iberian? @Genava55 Although this has little historical accuracy (female regular soldier) , it gives us grounds for assuming the comfort of the female body in armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 33 minutes ago, Gurken Khan said: Yeah, when this topic popped up I thought to look up our Visha Kanyas; their attire is even more bikini-ish then I remembered... I thought of Scythians. And more barbarian women. (Celts, Germans, Illiryans, Getae, Dacians, Thracians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted June 18, 2022 Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 As far as China's experience is concerned, there is no "female armor" that highlights women's sexual characteristics, especially in ancient times, bras were not used to support the breasts. Most of the time women's clothes are the same as men's, and the same is true of armor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, AIEND said: Most of the time women's clothes are the same as men's, and the same is true of armor. the only thing that changes is that it is loose and for her breasts they wears a kind necklace.Gives more support to the shoulders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 They also cover the abdominal part well. Gladiatrix armor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 19 minutes ago, AIEND said: As far as China's experience is concerned, there is no "female armor" that highlights women's sexual characteristics. I am sure that it is very impractical to go around on a battlefield showing the figure to many angry and blood thirsty men who haven't a wife(woman) for a long time. Most would see them as "reward" of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2022 Just now, Lion.Kanzen said: I am sure that it is very impractical to go around on a battlefield showing the figure to many angry and blood thirsty men who haven't a wife(woman) for a long time. Most would see them as "reward" of war. They would hide sexuality as much as possible. even the hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Lion.Kanzen said: 唯一改变的是它是宽松的，对于她的乳房，他们戴着一条亲切的项链。为肩膀提供更多支撑。 Most of the time, the bust of women is not larger than that of men, so they can directly wear the same armor, especially the ancient armor is like a straight tube, and the wearer does not care about the chest to waist ratio at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 For example, such a set of armor, there is basically no difference in the wearing effect of men or women. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, AIEND said: Most of the time, the bust of women is not larger than that of men, so they can directly wear the same armor, especially the ancient armor is like a straight tube, and the wearer does not care about the chest to waist ratio at all. It depends on the overall physique. if she is a big woman. I know that in Asia a big woman is not common. Nordic, Germanic and Slavic, women have that fame, their jaw and arms are robust. Some time ago I was going to ask for fat men and women, which is rare to see in ancient times. I don't think they were fragile women. Here I have photos of the Greek ideal. Edited June 19, 2022 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AIEND Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 8 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said: 这取决于整体体质。 如果她是个大女人。 我知道在亚洲，大女人并不常见。 北欧、日耳曼和斯拉夫的女性都享有盛名，她们的下巴和手臂很结实。 前段时间我要去求肥男肥女，这在古代是少见的。 我不认为她们是脆弱的女人。 在这里，我有希腊理想的照片。 I have to remind you that it is a stereotype to think that there are few fat women in Asia. And as mentioned earlier, because strong men and women often have thick waists, loose armor is suitable for both men and women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myou5e Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 18 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said: Since there is not much archeology, we are going to reconstruct and speculate. One practical advantage of chain mail is the ease of adapting to the wearer. So we would likely see women wear chainmail, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myou5e Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Player of 0AD said: As each 0AD player knows, female armor looked exactly like this: It seems that the Visha Kanyas were not warriors at all. They were assassins that probably used poison or other surreptitious means of killing. The unit is presently mostly ahistorical, but not completley. They may have actually dressed like that, but in the bedroom, to seduce and poison; and also the game mentions she uses poison arrows, I think. These assassins did use poison, but it may have been on their tongue, not on a large sword. They could put it on their tongue and then literally kill you with a kiss, because they were apparently trained to be immune to poison since childhood. It was brutal and scary. These women are actually a historical example of that movie Naked Weapon. But they didn't fight in war, they were assassins. Edited June 19, 2022 by myou5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myou5e Posted June 19, 2022 Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 14 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said: +5 defense Even the red haired woman at the end should have had a helmet on.... Sort of the first thing you would wear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2022 7 hours ago, myou5e said: Even the red haired woman at the end should have had a helmet on.... Sort of the first thing you would wear. The thing is, that armor was ridiculous. Part of the bikini armor joke. If it has its historical origins in the imaginary of recent centuries. fantasy came from myths and misconceptions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted June 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2022 23 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said: The thing is, that armor was ridiculous. Part of the bikini armor joke. If it has its historical origins in the imaginary of recent centuries. fantasy came from myths and misconceptions. this has a gradual evolution and influences the fantasy. It would be necessary to see when eroticism is normalized outside of the fine arts, that is, in comics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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