PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 (edited) I was wondering if some heroes should be reworked/ buffed. Heroes that come to mind are those that I personally don't see much : Agis of sparta, Pericles for athens, Hamilcar of carthage, poor Alexander of macedon, any iberian hero that ins't Indibil and lastly, the bane of the jews , Antiochus IV. While with some civs i don't see heroes poping up, with others I see the whole roster. I would like to hear the comunity's views on this and if you go the less popular heroes perhaps say why. And going into A25 it think it is a good time to have this discussion. Edited June 8, 2021 by PyrrhicVictoryGuy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Player of 0AD Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 Sometimes I train Caros instead of Indibilis because he is the only Iberian hero which can make soldiers stronger. And he can turn a fortress into something very terrifying. I think that both Antiochos are good. The one gives a good cavalry bonus, the other is good against siege and is a superb siege tower support Further bad heroes: Themistocles Xerxes Leonidas (radius too tiny) Ashoka 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted June 8, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 Well both antiochus might be good but seleukus is better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soloooy0 Posted June 8, 2021 Report Share Posted June 8, 2021 for the iberos I have 3 ideas for viriato 1 that can create swordsmen champions 2 he should be mounted on horseback and have a bonus like (antiochus IV) structures, ships and siege engines -20% health 3 he should be mounted on horseback and create iberian mounted champions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted June 10, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 Well it is safe to say that some heroes got shafted pretty hard by the devs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LetswaveaBook Posted June 10, 2021 Report Share Posted June 10, 2021 On 09/06/2021 at 1:30 AM, Player of 0AD said: Ashoka I think ashoka is great. He allows you to get a few extra temples and allows you to get the healer techs that are normally to expensive to get. Also as a chariot archer he is a nice unit to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 Can someone confirm if antiochus iii's bonus applies to ranged cav (seleucids), because i don't think it does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PyrrhicVictoryGuy said: Can someone confirm if antiochus iii's bonus applies to ranged cav (seleucids), because i don't think it does. It better, because seles hardly have cavalry besides ranged cavalry. All other cav civs besides seles can pair a more expensive melee cavalry (champions, or mercenaries if they were ever worth getting) with CS melee cavalry to extend their lives and make the metal investment worth it. With a melee cavalry sele army, you would be relegated to never using champions or mercenaries in open combat since they are too expensive to lose. People recognize how much metal champions and mercenaries cost and will simply focus them down. Even if they lose 100 units to 40 units, economically it is a win for the non-cav player. Melee champions are most useful when they are embedded with large numbers of citizen soldiers so that an enemy has a harder time killing your most expensive units first, seles do not have this option and I really think they should if their mercenary or champion melee cavalry are ever to be used for anything other than killing traders or killing women (a task CS cavalry can do just fine). Edited June 11, 2021 by BreakfastBurrito_007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) @BreakfastBurrito_007 I just played a tg and although the archer cav was next to antiochus , the bonus icon didn't show on their heads. But the bonus works on melee cav. Edited June 11, 2021 by PyrrhicVictoryGuy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakfastBurrito_007 Posted June 11, 2021 Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) Seles are basically not a cav civ what on earth. Iber cavalry is way better than seles. If it is true that antiochus does not effect ranged cav then there is no excuse not to give seles a spearcav unit for a25. Edited June 11, 2021 by BreakfastBurrito_007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyrrhicVictoryGuy Posted June 11, 2021 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2021 (edited) ok my bad the bonus applies but the two crossed swords icon does not show up Edited June 11, 2021 by PyrrhicVictoryGuy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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