Faction : Nomads Xiongnu

[Lion.Kanzen]

I posted more in somewhere in eyecandy topic.

Edited May 21, 2018 by Lion.Kanzen

[wolflance]

Repost the Xiongnu clothing reconstruction from my other thread since they are appropriate here:

 

Xiongnu Noble attire, reconstructed by the same 琥璟明.

(Yes, they kept queue)

 

Edited August 30, 2017 by wolflance

[wolflance]

Some weapons of the Xiongnu:

Bronze head of a meteor hammer. It is basically the same thing as a sling, but instead of releasing the cord and let the sling-bullet fly out,  you tied a rope to the bullet/mace head and fling the entire thing, including the rope itself.

It is much more expensive than your typical sling, but also significantly more deadly due to being made out of dense metal. 

Has no direct relation to the fancy modern kung fu meteor hammer.

 

All-metal iron javelin similar to Iberian soliferrum. The one depicted in this photo is actually a Han Chinese example (Chinese also used iron javelin), but Chinese source mentions that Xiongnu also use it. It is apparently thrust/thrown at close range.

 

Xiongnu knives and swords. Their daos are more or less identical to Han Dynasty daos, but they had their own style of double-edged sword (jian).

Their spears and halberds are also identical to the Han Chinese ones. Xiongnu did occasionally fought as infantry.

 

One of the bow discovered at Xinjiang, China.

Based on brick sculpting and this artifact, Xiongnu bow is almost identical to the type known to the West as Scythian bow.

 

Xiongnu also used plenty of bronze maces, a characteristic weapon of the nomads. Apparently some Chinese-style crossbow mechanisms also turn out in grave finds, but its use must be extremely rare.

 

Armor

Although Han records mention that Xiongnu were armored with wooden armor at best, grave finds indicate that they used bronze scale armor and iron lamellar armor. No complete suit survived, unfortunately.

 

Shield

Some Chinese brick sculptures depict Xiongnu cavalry armed with shield, but we know next to nothing about them. Also look at his prominent nose.

Edited August 30, 2017 by wolflance

[Lion.Kanzen]

@Alexandermb como vas?

 

[Alexandermb]

9 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

@Alexandermb como vas?

 

https://arrecaballo.es/edad-antigua/los-hunos/los-xiongnu/ investigaba en este link donde tiene varios tipos de hunos a ver si conseguía fotos de las estructuras mas complejas "Barracas" "Herreria o talladores de madera"

[Lion.Kanzen]

Yes look like Chinese armor, like @wolflance says their armor style are similar to Chinese army.

[Lion.Kanzen]

It's more clear, but was a fast read, i don't stop in details.

[Alexandermb]

https://arrecaballo.es/edad-antigua/los-hunos/ 6 links de la misma pagina referente a los hunos

[Alexandermb]

Will make sack's of flour/wheat for use them in prop points, and i don't know if they had a blacksmith but instead i will make a wood carver as the barrack with some big yurt with bows and quivers around also, i think i will need the new horse mesh and skeleton that will be used with the cavalry update for place them with prop points around the yurts or the yurt with wheels.

[Alexandermb]

Progress: 

The house will have most of the props as prop points for now they are placed for have a preview of how it will be going the house

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

Nice. 

[wolflance]

23 hours ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Yes look like Chinese armor, like @wolflance says their armor style are similar to Chinese army.

No, I said their WEAPONS are similar to the Chinese. I have no idea how Xiongnu armor looks like.

 

I would say closer to Scythian than Chinese, but then it's just my guess.

Edited August 31, 2017 by wolflance

[Lion.Kanzen]

5 minutes ago, wolflance said:

No, I said their WEAPONS are similar to the Chinese. I have no idea how Xiongnu armor looks like.

 

I would say closer to Scythian than Chinese, but then it's just my guess.

Artistic license then. We can compare Han with Sarmatians weapons and armors.

[Alexandermb]

i was confused wich one was the swords so i've made both style
 

[Alexandermb]

I need some help with the texture, it crashes on atlas with this, already test with other files (textures) and dind't crash 

Textures

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Crash report

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            (too much output; skipping to next top-level symbol)

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thread_start (wpthread.cpp:624)
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_get_flsindex (:0)

_get_flsindex (:0)

RtlGetAppContainerNamedObjectPath (:0)

RtlGetAppContainerNamedObjectPath (:0)

errno = 0 (No error reported here)
OS error = 1314 (El cliente no dispone de un privilegio requerido.)
 

 

[Stan`]

Mmmh make sure the png colors are not indexed.

Edited August 31, 2017 by stanislas69

[Alexandermb]

1 minute ago, stanislas69 said:

Mmmh make sure the png colors are indexed.

i have no idea what to do, i'm not so good using Texture programs. 

[Stan`]

@Alexandermb Can you tell me what texture crashed ? 

[Alexandermb]

Maybe the 3, i tested the 3 together and crashed then tried with only the basic texture and crashed again

[Stan`]

@Alexandermb What software did you use to generate those maps ?
Do you have a minimal test case as zip ?

[Alexandermb]

i used paint.net, i used it before like the caro wonder/school and din't failed. but now since i've make the file from the start copying and pasting from the "rome_tent" and "chin_struct" failed this time

i think not.

Also, like this two images and as they are nomad people, i will make a resources depot like the mauryans elephant, a wagon "laager" with 2 or 3 variants pulled by a horse, Ox or steer.

 

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[Stan`]

mmmh weird

[Lion.Kanzen]

1 hour ago, Alexandermb said:

i have no idea what to do, i'm not so good using Texture programs. 

I'm very well with 2D graphics.

[Lion.Kanzen]

Try use gimp. I will use photoshop.

 

[Alexandermb]

Just now, Lion.Kanzen said:

Try use gimp. I will use photoshop.

 

Si puedes arreglarlas perfecto, probar el 1er test de yurta con varios props, ya esta exportado para 0 ad