Trinketos Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, dmouse said: Explico lo que hice: En el mod hay muchos de los templates base que tiene 0ad por defecto y estan desactualizados, lo ideal seria crear unos templates propios que extiendan de los originales para no tener que esta actualizando los del mod constantemente. Los archivos dentro de maps/random tambien los tuve que quitar por que causan conflictos con los originales. Los archivos de session.js y session.xml pasa lo mismo. Actualice los paths para que todos cumplan con la nueva estructura de carpeta y he simulado varios juego, ya son jugables los Zapotecas y los Toltecas. Falta agregar el nuevo edicio de "arsenal" a las civs, ya lo hice para los zapo y tolt Has aqui mi reporte joaquin (perdon por los acentos, no lo tengo en el teclado ) Te tendría que dar permisos para poder hacer commits a el mod. lo del agua ModdingResources – Wildfire Games Edited March 11, 2021 by Trinketos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 39 minutes ago, dmouse said: ¡Eso parece una buena idea !, perdón por la última confirmación, fueron algunas actualizaciones bien pensadas. Creo que el mejor lugar para continuar las conversaciones es aquí, evitando así dejar el tema del tema de civ zapotecas. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted March 11, 2021 Report Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Trinketos said: Te tendría que dar permisos para poder hacer commits a el mod. lo del agua ModdingResources – Wildfire Games Ya envie el PR sientete libre de probarlo primero antes de darle merge xD https://github.com/0ADMods/pre-colonial-mod/pull/19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 @Trinketosque te parece si hacemos un mod aparte que introduzca el agua y asi dejar este como un mod de expancion solo para la parte de las civilizaciones? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Alguien me podria ayudar con los edificios de Arsenal, no tenemos modelos para este edificio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 12, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dmouse said: Alguien me podria ayudar con los edificios de Arsenal, no tenemos modelos para este edificio Sería como una especie de aserradero y trabajo de tallado de piedra. Edited March 12, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, dmouse said: Alguien me podria ayudar con los edificios de Arsenal, no tenemos modelos para este edificio ¿Para los zapotecas? Puedo ayudarte mañana si no hay nadie disponible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, dmouse said: @TrinketosO que você acha se fizermos um mod separado que introduza água e, portanto, deixarmos isso como um mod de expansão apenas para a parte das civilizações? Podemos abrir un nuevo tema en el foro de mod con esta idea. Creo que es algo muy interesante y fácil de aplicar. Pero creo que el mejor lugar para discutir esto por ahora sería en este tema: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 Dos PR mas https://github.com/0ADMods/pre-colonial-mod/pull/21 https://github.com/0ADMods/pre-colonial-mod/pull/20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmouse Posted March 12, 2021 Report Share Posted March 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Lopess said: ¿Para los zapotecas? Puedo ayudarte mañana si no hay nadie disponible. Si y para los demas tambien, mex, tolt, hopi, incas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 15, 2021 Report Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) Zapotec workshop (arsenal) mod. zapo_arsenal.zip Edited March 15, 2021 by Lopess 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) I am working on mercenaries / units allied on maps for the delenda est, I am not good with textures but I am trying as best as possible. For now mixtec warrior and otomi warrior. Edited March 18, 2021 by Lopess 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 I will start working with zapotec shields, they are a little too low poly compared to current shields, I believe that over time the number of tris required for the 0ad has been increased. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 18, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Lopess said: I am working on mercenaries / units allied on maps for the delenda est, I am not good with textures but I am trying as best as possible. For now mixtec warrior and otomi warrior. cuando tengamos mercenarios en el juego principal, van a hacer falta en el mod también. We have to go thinking about the Mayans too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 18, 2021 Report Share Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Some interesting things about the war in Oaxaca preclassica. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC208841/ . https://www.pnas.org/content/100/20/11185. Edited March 18, 2021 by Lopess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 19, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2021 https://www.mexicodesconocido.com.mx/los-reyes-zapotecos-y-sus-conquistas.html To go to war, a warrior wore his dress clothes: mask that, according to his rank, could be of jaguar, of death or simple facial painting with the colors of the night and of the death and the blinkers of Cocijo; loincloth with skirt, cape, leather sandals. He used his macana or an arrow with darts, bow and arrows or flint knives; a large shield made of a frame of vines ornamented with feathers, as well as padded cotton armor for his defense and bells on his heels to make his presence felt. All their attire was both beautiful and fierce. All campaigns were accompanied by certain images of the gods to guide them to the places where they could attack the enemy by surprise. ####### The Sky people 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 The genealogical record was something really important for royalty. https://arqueologiamexicana.mx/mexico-antiguo/una-casa-de-ancestros-reales-en-el-cerro-de-la-campana-oaxaca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 I am convinced that perhaps we can use these names for Zapotec kings, all before AD 500. and best of all we have reference graphics of their helmets so that one can be different from the other, unfortunately we do not have much historical information about them due to the lack of translation of the old zapotec, however the little we have is something much better than nothing. 5 jaguar: " ... Entre ellos se encontraba un gobernante llamado 5 Jaguar, quien durante su gobierno, que tuvo lugar en algún momento entre el 350 y el 550 de la Era Común, encargó una pequeña estructura cuatripartita de conmemoración, muy probablemente ubicada en el centro de la plaza (Figura 2.4-1). Seis de las ocho superficies angostas visibles en los dinteles de los cuatro recintos registraban su asunción al poder, y mostraban 14 personajes secundarios presentándole vasallaje, mientras que al mismo tiempo rendían homenaje a su predecesor fallecido –muy probablemente su padre– quien ha sido identificado como 13 Planta Jabón (13N). " "... Among them was a ruler named 5 Jaguar, who during his government, which took place sometime between 350 and 550 CE, commissioned a small quadripartite commemoration structure, very probably located in the center of the plaza (Figure 2.4-1). Six o'clock Narrow surfaces visible on the lintels of the four enclosures recorded their assumption of power, and they showed 14 secondary characters presenting him vassalage, while at the same time paying homage to their deceased predecessor - very probably his father - who has been identified as 13 Soap Plant (13N). " 13 Nigth: "... con el correr del tiempo fue sucedido por otro gobernante llamado 13 Noche (13F), quien aparentemente se hizo todavía más famoso por haber sido quien encargó uno de los programas narrativos más ambiciosos e impresionantes conocidos de ese período en Monte Albán (Figura 2.4-2). Para crearlo, el Señor 13 Noche ordenó el desmantelamiento de la estructura conmemorativa cuatripartita que hizo construir el Señor 5 Jaguar, reusando los dinteles y complementándolos con bloques de piedra recién extraídos a fin de labrar sobre partes de superficie más amplias de aquello que, en conjunto, es una celebración de su ascenso al trono.16 Un evento de esta naturaleza es proporcional a un “amarre” de una Rueda Calendárica, esto es, el final-comienzo de un ciclo de 52 años, y narra nuevamente sus pretendidas hazañas militares. Siete ortostatos tallados con una sección importante del programa narrativo pueden haber decorado el costado de una gran estructura piramidal, mostrando al supremo gobernante supervisando una procesión de 6 cautivos con sus brazos y piernas atados (Figura 2.5).17 Uno de los prisioneros de más alto rango también aparece representado como un jaguar, lo que implica que se trataba del gobernante de un importante reino que el Señor 13 Noche proclamaba haber conquistado. En un trabajo previo yo di por sentado que “tal vez otras fachadas dentro de la misma plataforma o de hileras superpuestas también estuvieran decoradas, formando una composición narrativa todavía más grande y más inclusiva” (Urcid 1992a: 263). El descubrimiento de Marcus Winter en 1993 de una piedra angular con rastros de un prisionero en la superficie más grande, y un texto lineal en la cara más angosta que incluye el nombre de 13 Noche, no sólo rebate las objeciones de algunos eruditos con respecto a las hipotéticas reconstrucciones comentadas hasta aquí (Balkansky 2002: 904; Houston 2002: 24)18, sino que permite considerar incluso otras implicaciones con respecto al programa narrativo encargado por el Señor 13 Noche. Una es que la estructura que contiene la narración tenía sus ángulos de base inscritos, y que la cuarta piedra angular todavía no ha sido hallada. La otra implicación es que dicho arreglo cuatripartito de bloques angulares labrados muy probablemente aluda a un componente importante de los rituales de ascensión al trono practicados por el Señor 13 Noche. Según los relatos nativos y de principios de la colonia de diferentes regiones de Mesoamérica, al acceder a un alto cargo los gobernantes encendían un fuego nuevo y lanzaban flechas o dardos a los cuatro rincones del mundo para demarcar simbólicamente el territorio bajo su control, y enviaban a cuatro señores –a cada uno de los cuatro extremos del territorio reclamado, para distribuir la tierra entre los nobles (Oudijk 2002). Tal expresión simbólica del papel del gobernante como axis mundi (para centrar al mundo) y de proclamación territorial en ceremonias de ascensión al trono no sólo han sido aludidas en el marco arquitectónico del programa narrativo encargado por 13 Noche, sino que también parece haber sido expresada en otro monumento labrado que muestra a un señor jaguar llamado 11 Lluvia de pie sobre un gran glifo E (la concepción cuatripartita de la tierra), que tiene un dardo en cada esquina (Figura 2.6). Queda por saber quién sucedió al Señor 13 Noche como gobernante de Monte Albán y su ciudad-estado, pero es evidente que con el tiempo, algún sucesor cercano o remoto ordenó el desmantelamiento del programa narrativo que conmemoraba su ascenso al trono, reusando los monolitos labrados para marcar las cuatro esquinas de la Plataforma Sur." "... with the passage of time was succeeded by another ruler named 13 Noche (13F), who apparently made even more famous for being the one who commissioned one of the programs most ambitious and impressive narratives known from that period in Monte Albán (Figure 2.4-2). To create it, Lord 13 Night ordered the dismantling of the quadripartite commemorative structure built by Lord 5 Jaguar, reusing the lintels and supplementing them with freshly quarried stone blocks in order to work on larger parts of the surface of what, together, is a celebration of his accession to the throne.16 An event of this nature is proportional to a “mooring” of a Calendar Round, that is, the end-beginning of a 52-year cycle, and recounts his alleged military exploits. Seven orthostats carved with an important section of the narrative program may have decorated the side of a large pyramidal structure, showing the supreme ruler overseeing a procession of 6 captives with his arms and legs tied up (Figure 2.5) .17 One of the highest ranking prisoners also appears represented as a jaguar, which implies that it was the ruler of a important kingdom that Lord 13 Night claimed to have conquered.In a previous work I took for granted that “maybe other facades within the same platform or overlapping rows were also decorated, forming an even larger and more inclusive narrative composition ”(Urcid 1992a: 263). Marcus Winter's 1993 discovery of a cornerstone with traces of a prisoner on the larger surface, and a linear text on the face narrower that includes the name 13 Night, not only rebuts the objections of some scholars regarding the hypothetical reconstructions discussed up to here (Balkansky 2002: 904; Houston 2002: 24) 18, but allows us to consider even other implications regarding the narrative program commissioned by the Lord 13 Night. One is that the structure that contains the narrative had its inscribed base angles, and that the fourth cornerstone has yet to be found. The other implication is that such a quadripartite arrangement of carved angular blocks most likely alludes to an important component of ascension rituals to the throne practiced by the Lord 13 Night. According to the native and early colonial times from different regions of Mesoamerica, by accessing a high the rulers lit a new fire and threw arrows or darts at the four corners of the world to symbolically demarcate the territory under its control, and they sent four lords - to each of the four ends of the claimed territory, to distribute the land among the nobles (Oudijk 2002). Such symbolic expression of the ruler's role as axis mundi (to center the world) and territorial proclamation in ceremonies of accession to the throne not only have been alluded to in the architectural framework of the narrative program commissioned by 13 Night, it also seems to have been expressed in another monument carving showing a jaguar lord named 11 Rain standing on a large glyph E (the quadripartite conception of the earth), which has a dart in each corner (Figure 2.6). It remains to be known who succeeded Lord 13 Night as ruler of Monte Alban and its city-state, but it is evident that over time, some successor near or remote ordered the dismantling of the narrative program that commemorated his accession to the throne, reusing the carved monoliths to mark the four corners of the South Platform." fonte pdfs: http://www.famsi.org/spanish/zapotecwriting/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) Entonces se llamaba: Beztao según diccionario Español-Zapoteco. https://vocabulario.com.mx/blog/zapoteco-diccionario-letra-j/ Por cierto tienen videos. Edited March 20, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 Expresiones básicas. greetings in Zapotec language. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 20, 2021 Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: Entonces se llamaba: Beztao según diccionario Español-Zapoteco. https://vocabulario.com.mx/blog/zapoteco-diccionario-letra-j/ Por cierto tienen videos. 5 Betzao 13 Gol http://www.biyubi.com/did_vocabulario26.html#n Edited March 20, 2021 by Lopess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Lopess said: 5 Betzao 13 Gol catorce chita’ cinco gayo’ cuatro tape diecinueve chino’tape diecinueve to galag dieciocho chino’shone dieciséis chino’to diecisiete chino’ chope diez chi doce chizino dos chope nueve ga 2 ocho xono’ quince chino’ seis xope siete gaze trece chi’ino tres shone un, uno, una to veinte galag veintiuno to chorha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 en inglés se escribe distinto y se pronuncia similar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted March 20, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2021 https://vocabulario.com.mx/blog/zapoteco-diccionario-partes-de-la-ciudad/ City places. And city objects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lopess Posted March 21, 2021 Report Share Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) Updates: Helmet of heroic units inspired by the murals of Monte Alban, they are 11 rain, 13 night and 5 Jaguar. Beside allied units / mercenaries Mixteca and Otomi. Mercenaries units. Edited March 21, 2021 by Lopess 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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