tau Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Really surprised to see someone advocating such bug. However, i see no point to discuss if it is more or less of a problem than a formation stuck; i just hope that this bug is easier to fix than pathfinder and it will be fixed before the release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregriino Posted September 16, 2014 Report Share Posted September 16, 2014 Anyone can give me the new status of army camp's roman? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzippy Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 (edited) Sure.Buildtime has increased from 160s to 250s, its armor decreased from 10Hack, 40Pierce, 10Crush to 3/25/1 ...Though arrow range might get nerfed too a little, since atm its still 80m, which is more than a cc .. Edited September 17, 2014 by zzippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niektb Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Indeed, the Roman Army Camp has been made less powerful (since it was really overpowered before). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregriino Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Thanks, I hop it's not the end for the army camp ;( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzippy Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 It's the end. Of an overpowered army camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregriino Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 But now it's facily destroyed. 1 of crush damage is a shamy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzippy Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 well, its a building made of wood ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregriino Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 In your logic, hack and crush it's ok, but piercing damage? Arrows can't be destroyd wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzippy Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Thats why it has 25 armor vs pierce attack.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregriino Posted September 17, 2014 Report Share Posted September 17, 2014 Before was 40. With a good number of cav ranged and less army ranged is nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
auron2401 Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 ....EVERY structures pierce armor has been reduced, so that spearmen (who now do pierce damage) can cut @#$% up, and ranged units arent absolutely useless versus structures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregriino Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Spearmen with pierce damage is a good change. What's happen with ranged units?But rams now make damage, defend the army camp will be hard for the new time to build. I think is more fair the new status but with old time to build of 160 sec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzippy Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 (edited) I suggest you play svn or wait for a17 and judge after you had a few games...In my opinion the roman civ has a bigger problem than that weaker armycamp: No wood/food melee infantry in village phase .. Edited September 18, 2014 by zzippy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregriino Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Problem in a17, in a16 I just use ranged units to aproxm in enemy territory and finish the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 Problem in a17, in a16 I just use ranged units to aproxm in enemy territory and finish the game.He asked you to try. Not to tell him in which version was 'the bug'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregriino Posted September 18, 2014 Report Share Posted September 18, 2014 I read about the test, but I waiting to a17.I talk about the problem that he's told about roman units. In a16 I just use ranged infantary, I don't use cav if you think this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariahbass222 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 All that needs to be done is Reduce skirm cav range. Make them have to get nasty close close spearman. Or make ranged infantry more effective against them because logically a horse is a big target and much easier to hit with a bow. I personally love rome but can't play them due to skirm cavs. Ackk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 The new tech are some expensive especially maps like Anatolian Plateau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzippy Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Maybe, but thats for all players. So, all have the same problem to decide wisely which tech to use.Btw -don't get me wrong, no offend- it is sometimes really, really hard to understand what you want to say. Since you are posting much on the forum, is it too hard to learn a little more english? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 Maybe, but thats for all players. So, all have the same problem to decide wisely which tech to use.Btw -don't get me wrong, no offend- it is sometimes really, really hard to understand what you want to say. Since you are posting much on the forum, is it too hard to learn a little more english? is expensive right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeta1127 Posted September 22, 2014 Report Share Posted September 22, 2014 So basically all tech pairs have been removed for the time being? I can understand why this was done for economic techs, but it doesn't really seem necessary for military techs as long as its a choice between melee and ranged, not just spearmen and skirmishers. The fortifications and temple techs work fine as tech pairs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pariahbass222 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Rome feels underpowered in a16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentx Posted October 4, 2014 Report Share Posted October 4, 2014 I've set myself a target of beating Petra in half an hour. Basically I can now build a ranged cavalry mass producing economy. Also needed are three towers as trap. When Petra starts building the first civic centre I start attacking and do not stop.Since I'm pretty sure a human player would easily find a defense I'm very fond of the new balancing, especially the lack of paired technologies, but that's probably my personal view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumo Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 An observation: it is far too easy to amass a lot of food in the first few minutes. Your single cavalry unit should be used for scouting, now he is also an amazing hunter (collects food way too quickly). It doesn't seem logical that cavalry is so good at killing chicken and sheep (wildlife can stay).My proposal: make it impossible for cavalry to gather from domesticated animals + lower their gather rate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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