Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Stan` said: civic_center? parth_ or sass_ Parthian... Palace of Arsacid dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Okay is it more a wonder a temple or a civic center? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 13 minutes ago, Stan` said: Okay is it more a wonder a temple or a civic center? Look more a SB similar to Apadana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Alright. Would be nice to put together some concept art with stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) Basically this is Sassanid and parthian style. An evolve from Persian Achemenid art. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasanian_architecture Edited January 4, 2020 by Lion.Kanzen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 How should we differentiate the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, Stan` said: How should we differentiate the two? The color blue. The domes. Quote Already in the Parthian period Hellenistic art was being interpreted freely by the peoples of the Near East and throughout the Sasanian period there was a continuing process of reaction against it. Sasanian art revived forms and traditions native to Persia; and in the Islamic period these reached the shores of the Mediterranean. Parthian dynastic architecture must have been responsible for a great many of the Sasanian architectural characteristics. All are characterised by the barrel-vaulted iwans introduced in the Parthian period, but now they reached massive proportions, particularly at Ctesiphon. The arch of the great vaulted hall at Ctesiphon attributed to the reign of Shapur I (241-272) has a span of more than 80 ft, and reaches a height of 118 ft. from the ground. This magnificent structure fascinated architects in the centuries that followed and has always been considered as one of the most important pieces of Persian architecture. Persians solved the problem of constructing a circular dome on a square building by the squinch. This is an arch built across each corner of the square, thereby converting it into an octagon on which it is simple to place the dome. The dome chamber in the palace of Firouzabad is the earliest surviving example of the use of the squinch and so there is good reason for regarding Persia as its place of invention. Their defensenses are more cylindrical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Shouldn't we use blue as player color? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Quote The aristocratic and exclusive culture of the Sassanid dynasty became a Persian ‘Renaissance’. The precedence of what would be later known as ‘Islamic culture’ (architecture elements, draperies mastery, jewelry, writing and other skills) were adopted by the broader Islamic world from the Sassanid Persians. 3 minutes ago, Stan` said: Shouldn't we use blue as player color? Is different blue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Also Parth → domes and round roofs Sass → ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Stan` said: Also Parth → domes and round roofs Sass → ??? Sass-->> Domes yblue withtraditions of old Persisn and some babylonian. Parth --->>> Hellenized Iranians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Sounds good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Quote Parthian art was Iranian art made during the Parthian Empire from 247 BC to 224 AD, based in the Near East. It has a mixture of Persian and Hellenistic influences. For some time after the period of the Parthian Empire, art in its styles continued for some time. A typical feature of Parthian art is the frontality of the people shown. Even in narrative representations, the actors do not look at the object of their action, but at the viewer. These are features that anticipate the art of medieval Europe and Byzantium. Parthian sites are often overlooked in excavations, thus the state of research knowledge in Parthian art is not complete. The excavations at Dura-Europos in the 20th century provided many new discoveries. The classical archaeologist and director of the excavations, Michael Rostovtzeff, realized that the art of the first centuries AD from Palmyra, Dura Europos, and also in Iran as far as the Greco-Buddhist art of north India followed the same principles. He called this art style Parthian art.[2] It is doubtful that the characteristics of "Parthian Art" have anything to do with Parthia itself;[3] the most characteristic feature of the "Parthian" art is frontality which is not a special feature of Iranian or Parthian art and first appeared in the art of Palmyra.[4] There are doubts whether this art can be called a "Parthian" art or that it should be associated with any particular regional area; there is no evidence that this art was created outside the middle-Euphrates region then brought to Palmyra for example.[5] This art is better thought of as a local development common to the middle Euphrates region.[5] Is important use some frontier building or cities. Dura Europos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Palmyra can work for both civs. Like greek style for city states in the past. @Sundiata knows better than me the middle east. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said: Would be nice for a cc ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, Stan` said: Would be nice for a cc ? Temple ruined by Isis. Hatra was one of capitals of Parthians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatra Parthian Even some Roman influence, like those archs. The columns look like colosseum no real column , more decorative. We have this with Seleucids. Im not sure about defenses. Palmira have some features similar to Hatra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Quote What is now described as Parthian art since the end of the 19th century, was not known as such a century ago. Palmyra since that time has had numerous sculptures sent to Europe. They depict men and women in robes, richly decorated with numerous jewels, and often represent the ruins of a city often associated with romantic literary sources in conjunction with Queen Zenobia. However, no separate term was found here for the art created, but they were considered a local variant of Roman art.[6] The excavations at Dura Europos since inception and especially since the early decades of the 20th century have provided many new discoveries. The classical archaeologist and director of the excavations, Michael Rostovtzeff, realized that the art of the first centuries AD in Palmyra, Dura Europos, and also in Iran and its other territories followed the same principles. He labeled this art work as Parthian art.[2] The widespread use of this art, even beyond the limits of Parthian empire, however, raised the question of whether this art was truly suitable to label Parthian, which is according to Schlumberger usually affirmed in research, as it was probably influenced by the art of the Parthian capital of Ctesiphon. Check Sassanid Ctesiphon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nescio Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Could someone rename this thread to Parthians (or Arsacids) and Sasanians? They are named after Sasan, so Sasanian is preferred, and Sassanid is no longer considered appropiate nowadays. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 This color palette (blue look more suitable. Spoiler See the color player blue and building natural,color. No very accurate architecture but nice colors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 (edited) Parthian concepts. Edited January 4, 2020 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan` Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 It would be nice to separate the units from the buildings. Two separate threads. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 Lets do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted January 4, 2020 Report Share Posted January 4, 2020 except the first in the upper left corner. And this defenitvely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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