greenknight32 Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 I game that try to do mix AoE with Starcraft Spartan Ancient Wars. But is not was good. Too buggy.Too bad, had some impressive artwork.Back to the subject of civs that are under/over powered.- I just played a random map game as Persians vs Iberians, early on sent 7 Archers to attack their workforce. Wiped them out completely. All their gatherers were killed, and every new one walked right into the line of fire and died as well, until they ran out of resources. The game was essentially over at that point. That shouldn't ever happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted September 18, 2013 Report Share Posted September 18, 2013 Too bad, had some impressive artwork.Back to the subject of civs that are under/over powered.- I just played a random map game as Persians vs Iberians, early on sent 7 Archers to attack their workforce. Wiped them out completely. All their gatherers were killed, and every new one walked right into the line of fire and died as well, until they ran out of resources. The game was essentially over at that point. That shouldn't ever happen.That has nothing to do with civ balance. That is bad AI, which is a work in progress. To get a sense of proper civ balance you need to play against human players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenknight32 Posted September 19, 2013 Report Share Posted September 19, 2013 I thought there might be a balance issue as well as bad AI, but I guess not - I tried reversing that matchup, playing Iberians vs Persians, and pulled exactly the same trick. In both cases the AI seems to be spending its wood to create fields too early. When I wiped out their first troops they were helpless, they had nothing but food and could only create women.The key to this was rushing them very early, using my 2 starting missile troopers and the first 5 I could produce. When I got to the AI position, they already had 3 fields planted. If I wait until I can produce 10 missile troopers, my attacking force gets wiped out and it's a competitive game.Seems like this shouldn't be too hard to fix; the AI just needs to gather the food that's available before planting fields. Compared to some of the AI's other issues, that's pretty simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfinn the Shallow Minded Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Out of curiosity, what civilization is the AI best at using would anyone say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpha123 Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 Out of curiosity, what civilization is the AI best at using would anyone say?Wraitii mentioned once that it likes Persians, which seems to be fairly true in my experience. I imagine it's pretty good as Macedonians as well, although I don't play it very often any more.It's typically pretty bad as anything without battering rams, since it doesn't handle catapults or elephants well at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted September 20, 2013 Report Share Posted September 20, 2013 any Celts and Iberians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanderd17 Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 If you play against Athenian AI. Just build a wall. It can't attack that wall, and as it will run out of resources eventually, it will go down. You can keep up your own resources via trading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted September 21, 2013 Report Share Posted September 21, 2013 (edited) If you play against Athenian AI. Just build a wall. It can't attack that wall, and as it will run out of resources eventually, it will go down. You can keep up your own resources via trading. you remember when i said defeat Iberians Against Athenians, because i sorrounded my City with Walls and send Units to counter the attacking, 2 hours after they can don't send anything and i was send a lot of Pikemans and Lithobolos XD. Edited September 21, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolanjoker Posted September 22, 2013 Report Share Posted September 22, 2013 Athenians are the best. but Sparta, are fearsome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanl1d Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Athenians are the best. but Sparta, are fearsome.Yeah sure Spartans are very fearsome, but the Athenians aren`t that great, are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted September 27, 2013 Report Share Posted September 27, 2013 Both have elite spear units but is more cheap the Athenian champion. But otherwise Spartan have swordman to train in barracks , Athenians in ships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfinn the Shallow Minded Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 You failed to point out that the Athenians have superior siege weaponry and access to ranged units. Additionally, the Spartans have a complete lack of walls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 Hahaha I'm talk about a example, all your argument are valid too. The good player knows how balancing the game.But the best of that advent ages is the siege warfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolanjoker Posted September 28, 2013 Report Share Posted September 28, 2013 is true, Spartan have a bad siege warfare, so what a playerchoose sparta ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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