Nick The Hun Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I'm a scenario designer from Age of Mythology so you might recognise some ideas.Carthaginians- Tanit/Caelestis (War goddess and saint of the nurses): War bonus, healing bonus for priests- Ba'al (God of fertility and vegetation): Field and sheep bonus- Astarte (Goddess of war): Cavalry bonus and towerdefense bonus (night's watch, for she is the godess of the evening)Britons- Cernunnos (God of fertility and nature): Food bonus- Alaisiagae (War god): Military bonus- Andred (invoked by Boudica): Scouting bonus - possibility to summon Boudica in lategame- Belo (god of death): Inspires soldiers and citizen of lower social status.- Cocidius (god of hunting, forests, groves and wild fields): Hunt and wood cutting bonus- Conventina (goddess of springs and wells): grants food on a stable basis- ChristianityGauls- Abnoba (goddess of the black forest, goddess of hunting): Hunt bonus- Ancamna (goddess of Trier and warfare): Defensive and warfare bonus- Arduinna (goddess of the Ardennes): Hunt and gather bonus- Arvernus/Gebrinius (Mercury: intelligence, fertility): Farming bonus and cheaper building bonus- Iovantucarus (God of youth protection): Citizen and light infantry are cheaper- Intarabus/Narius (god of war and spears): Spearman bonus- Ritona (a goddess of nature often related with dogs and babies): War dog bonus- Vosegus (god of hunting): Ranged units bonus- Nehalennia (dutch celtic goddess of marine and storms): Ships bonusAthenians---Spartans---Macedonians---Iberians- Abellio (Aquitanian god of apple trees): Forage gathering bonus, wood cutting bonus- Cariocecus (Lusitanian god of war): sheeps bonus, cavalry bonus and priest bonus- Endovelicus (god of health and safety): healing bonus, grants resources, ability to summon a defenseguard unit.- Ataegina (goddess of fertility): Farming bonus- Bandua (goddess of rivers and streams): Ship bonusPersians- Zoroastrianism: Ahura Mazda (Illuminating Wisdom, divine light): Cavalry bonus, citizen and light infantry speed and hitpoints bonus.- Zoroastrianism: Angra Mainyu (Destructrive Spirit, devil): Ranged units bonus, death units return 10% of the resources they costed.- Judaïsm? (conquered Judea/Israel)- Shamash and Ishtar? (conquered Mesopotamia)- Ba'al (conquered Tyre/Phoenicia/Levant)Romans---Mauryans---Ptolmaeis---I hope people like this idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Ptolemaics are same than Ancient Egyptian but their good are some mixed with Greeks.Isis Romans have other goods than Greeks-Jupiter-Sol Invictus-Mithras- Christos- Mars-Janus-Castor and PolluxMauryans Have own version of Mitras.Buddha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick The Hun Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I think its a good idea to look up the important gods at that moment. Which were religiously popular or caused the tables to turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanderd17 Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Would gods have something visible? Or would they just be re-named technologies that you can "pray to" (=research). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plumo Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 It is an interesting idea, that you choose 1 god/goddess at your temple (but how many temples are you allowed to build?)with unique bonuses.Definitely worth looking into (I mean: worth a discussion IMO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraitii Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I like the idea. Using tech pairs, we could have some interesting decisions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick The Hun Posted August 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Indeed maybe build a temple per each town or city. And give boosts or bonusses in an aura range? But the temple will have a buildingrange towards the town.How to make the gods visible is indeed a good question. Visible by giving the priest a new look or giving the priest 'empowering' powers like in Age of Mythology?Or build statues towards your god. Or train a flagcarrier. For example the persians already have Azura Masda visible on their chariots.You could make the gods visible this way:Like the lure godpower in age of mythology. Build a shrine or put up a megalithic rock which attracts huntable animals. Or boosts units in a certain area or unit production. A healing rune/rock.For the Romans an eagle or another animal depended on the god wielded by a carrier into war. Inspiring soldiers etc.The Persians building the Ishtar gate or some other building like Ctesiphon or the Hanging Gardens.Gaining favor of the gods:- The Carthaginians would have to sacrifice towards Ba'al. Letting the female citizen get pregnant with a timer. And the citizen has to walk to the shrine and dump her newborn, ready for sacrifice. Jeez that would be insane ingame wow.- For example in Age of Mythology the Norse gain the favor of the gods by hunting and fighting.The influences of a temple in different games:- In Rise of Nations a temple improves your border and does more damage to enemy units within your territory. But they also influence the taxes in the region.- Instead Age of Mythology has a whole set of minor gods which you can choose from. Each with unique myth unit or soldier or building and unique technologies or inventions.This could become really cool and a whole new part of the game with alot of influence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvius Faberus Atreides Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I like this idea, though I have to say that the depiction of the gods should be a little more subtle than in Age of Mythology... after all, this is a historical game, not a mythological one. The gods should work like a special technology.As for keeping favor, you should probably just loose a trickle of resources to represent the sacrifices.Were each nation to have three gods (which seems like a good number) for the Romans I would have:Jupiter,Mars,QuirinusorJuno,Jupiter,Minerva(the old and new Capitoline trinities, respectively)For the Ptolemies, certainly Ammon, Isis, and Serapis; and for the Carthaginians Astarte, Ba'al, and Dido/Elissa, or perhaps Tanit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Why we don't unification the idea if you don't want complicate, and choose governor, gods and their marvels in one pack .But mix them the gods, governors o governor systems and marvels can be great to for the continuous gaming. Like a cube rubric every time can be different experience for all possible combination to mix the bonus. Even we can get combos with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debianita7 Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 Well on the Iberians as know their writing is difficult to recognize their gods, but material culture Through representations made animals the bull by its strength, but this was the wolf attacking their livestock enemy, revered him for his work in group . And the few gods who know have oriental origin and from the Mediterranean as Venus Demeter or Artemis but autochthonous horse know God. Most of the representations that are made are of nature.--------------------Bueno sobre los íberos como no conocemos su escritura, es difícil reconocer sus dioses, pero através de la cultura material hacían representaciones sobre animales el toro por su fuerza, el lobo aunque este era enemigo por atacar su ganado, lo veneraban por su trabajo en grupo. Y los pocos dioses que conocemos tienen origen orientalizante y proveniente del mediterraneo como Venus Demeter o Artemis pero autóctono que conozcamos el dios del caballo. La mayoría de las representaciones que se realizan son de la naturaleza. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 16, 2013 Report Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) Would gods have something visible? Or would they just be re-named technologies that you can "pray to" (=research). a boost to train healers and Religion Technologies.Like the Nexus Ability in Starcraft 2 .im creating new movement, the Abilities for Buildings and Units.Sanders17 you may be Contributor of Month. Edited August 16, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolanjoker Posted August 17, 2013 Report Share Posted August 17, 2013 (edited) For the Seleucids we can see the Mount of Nemrut.The mountain lies 40 km (25 mi) north of Kahta, near Adıyaman. In 62 BC, King Antiochus I Theos of Commagene built on the mountain top a tomb-sanctuary flanked by huge statues (8–9 m or 26–30 ft high) of himself, two lions, two eagles and various Greek, Armenian, and Iranian gods, such as Hercules-Vahagn, Zeus-Aramazd or Oromasdes (associated with the Iranian god Ahura Mazda), Tyche, and Apollo-Mithras. These statues were once seated, with names of each god inscribed on them. The heads of the statues have at some stage been removed from their bodies, and they are now scattered throughout the site.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vahagn Edited August 17, 2013 by Nolanjoker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oshron Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 i'd actually been thinking recently that a toggle button on temples could let the player worship a particular god, perhaps similar to the idea that Wonders have toggle abilities that will affect the territorial influence of the player, their allies, or their enemies. for example, the various Hellenes could choose to worship Athena for a while, which improves the rate at which buildings are constructed and repaired (though best known as the goddess of wisdom, she was also the goddess of architecture), and then after a while they switch over to worship Ares to give their soldiers a boost in combat. in the case of factions with a shared religion (like the Hellenes), it would probably be best to pick two or three gods which are given to all of them and then another which is more unique to their culture or embodies what they did historically. for example, only the Athenians would be able to worship Athena. i would also recommend this only in the sense of how that god can accurately apply to a game without any other mythological influences. for example, while Zeus immediately jumps to mind as a Greek god, i would actually suggest that he not be one of the Olympians that can be worshipped, because he embodies much more nature-oriented aspects than some of the others, as opposed to aspects of humanity like Athena does, for instance. in contrast, Poseidon would work well because, as both the god of the sea and the lord of horses, he has a wider applicable range to us mortals: he could improve the rate at which cavalry are trained and make it so that ships move faster, giving them safer passage across the seai'll try to write up something about which gods could be applicable to all this; one of the benefits of working on a mythology RTS project as well is that i already have alot of ideas 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 18, 2013 Report Share Posted August 18, 2013 Those ideas can be resumed in a single post. And put them in planned Features trac page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oshron Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 here's some slightly organized ideasApollo: god of prophecy (would benefit the healing abilities of priests; alternatively, he could be replaced by Asclepius, a deity more dedicated to healing)Ares: god of war (would benefit the abilities of soldiers)Artemis: goddess of the hunt (would benefit hunting abilities, and perhaps archers as well)Asclepius: god of healing (would benefit the healing abilities of priests)Athena: goddess of wisdom (would benefit the build and repair rates of structures)Cernunnos: horned god (would benefit druids in some way)Demeter: goddess of agriculture (would benefit farms)Dionysus: god of wine (no ideas as to exactly how he would benefit the player)Poseidon: god of the sea (would benefit either ships or horse cavalry)and here's some very much UNorganized ideas, mostly pertaining to the various Celts and to the Ptolemaics:OsirisRaSetBastetMa’atSobekHathorKhepriKhnumAnubisIsisPtahHorusSekhmetThothToutatisBrigantiaBeiraMachaSulisGobannusMogonsNantosueltaBelenusEponaLughManannanMaponosNodens 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Now we need religius techs I discus with idawin a convert mode with priest, what technologies can do each good, units and statues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolanjoker Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 wow Oshron is too many gods, now how would work this ? Lion has great ideas, i miss personally , the old school, Technology Age of Empires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 (edited) Cibeles for Persians in Anatolia was an originally Anatolian mother goddess. Little is known of her oldest Anatolian cults, other than her association with mountains, hawks and lions. She may have been Phrygia's state deity; her Phrygian cult was adopted and adapted by Greek colonists of Asia Minor and spread from there to mainland Greece and its more distant western colonies from around the 6th century BCE.Ceres the goddess of fertility.was a goddess of agriculture, grain crops, fertility and motherly relationships.[1] She was originally the central deity in Rome's so-called plebeian or Aventine Triad, then was paired with her daughter Proserpina in what Romans described as "the Greek rites of Ceres".Bona Dea ("The Good Goddess") was a divinity in ancient Roman religion. She was associated with chastity and fertility in women, healing, and the protection of the Roman state and people. According to Roman literary sources, she was brought from Magna Graecia at some time during the early or middle Republic, and was given her own state cult on the Aventine Hill.Saturn (Latin: Saturnus) was a god in ancient Roman religion and a character in myth. Saturn is a complex figure because of his multiple associations and long history. He was the first god of the Capitol, known since the most ancient times as Saturnius Mons, and was seen as a god of generation, dissolution, plenty, wealth, agriculture, periodical renewal and liberation. In later developments he came to be also a god of time. His reign was depicted as a Golden Age of plenty and peace. The Temple of Saturn in the Roman Forum housed the state treasury. In December, he was celebrated at what is perhaps the most famous of the Roman festivals, the Saturnalia, a time of feasting, role reversals, free speech, gift-giving and revelry. Saturn the planet and Saturday are both named after the god.With SpanishEven then, the Roman armies faced constant raids from various Spanish tribes. The Roman general, Quintus Sertorius, who was disenchanted by Rome, became the champion of Spanish rebellion against Rome for 8 years, until he was treacherously murdered in 72 BC, by his lieutenant, Perperna. Even today, Sertorius is seen as a great Spanish hero who dared challenge the might of the Roman Senate and their armies.But, the whole Iberian Peninsula didn't come to full Roman control until the reign of Augustus in 19 BC. Hispania Citerior became Tarraconensis, while Ulterior Hispania was divided into two provinces (c. 16 BC) – Lusitania (Portugal) and Baetica.Popular Celtic gods that are worshipped in Gaul and Britain, were also worshipped in the Spanish provinces, such as Lugus, Epona and Matres. Ataecina Candamius Cariociecus Dercetius Duillae Eacus Endouellicus SemnocosusRelated Pages: Roman Deities Gallic DeitiesAtaecinaAtaecina is the chthonic goddess of the Underworld, and have been identified with the Roman goddess Proserpina (Greek Persephone).She was only known from inscriptions in the Tagus region and in Baetis (Guadalquivir) valley.Related InformationRelated ArticlesProserpina.CandamiusThe Romano-Iberian sky god, Candamius, whose name was assimilated to Jupiter, as can be found in the inscription Jupiter Candamius on the tombstone at Mount Candanedo, on the border of Asturias and León.Related InformationNameCandamius, Jupiter Candamius.Related ArticlesJupiter.CariociecusCariociecus is a Romano-Celtic god of war, who was equated with the Roman god Mars, whose name he was assimilated as Mars Cariociecus. Cariociecus was popular in the region of Lusitania (Portugal).Related InformationNameCariociecus,Mars Cariociecus.Related ArticlesMars.DercetiusDercetius is a Romano-Iberian mountain god.DuillaeDuillae are the goddesses of fertility and vegetation. They appeared as pair of mothers nature. The Duillae appeared similar to the Matres.Related InformationRelated ArticlesMatres.EacusEacus was a Romano-Iberian weather god, who is equated with the Roman god, Jupiter Solutorius. Eacus was popular in the region of Castile.Related InformationNameEacus,Jupiter Solutorius.EndouellicusEndouellicus was a Romano-Iberian god of the oracles and of healing. He was widely worshipped in Lusitania (Portugal).SemnocosusSemnocosus was a Romano-Iberian god of war. Semnocosus was also a popular god of war for the Roman legions serving in The following deities found here are ancient Romano-Celtic gods and goddesses, found in Gaul (France, Belgium, the Alps and northern Italy) and other part of Continental Europe (Spain, Switzerland, Austria, etc).Written sources for these deities come from mainly authors in the classical period of Greece and Rome. These authors wrote in the time of 4th century BC to 2nd century AD.Other evidences of these deities come from archaeology. The main archaeological finds were swords and other weapons, cups and cauldrons, pins, coins, etc. Some of the more interesting evidences are statuettes of their gods or goddesses.When Julius Caesar conquered Gaul, he observed the religion of the Gauls, but he equated many of the Celtic gods with Roman names instead of the native Gaullish names. Caesar assigned the names such Mercury, Mars, Apollo, Jupiter, Minerva and Dis Pater (Pluto) to the Gallic deities.When the Roman empire conquered Gaul, the Rhine area and in Britain, they not only brought Roman culture and religion with them, many of the Empire's citizens with Roman and non-Roman background, either adopted or continued to worship these Celtic gods.It wasn't until then the imperial Roman period, that we find different names to these gods, which can be found on statues and monuments with inscriptions. However these names are Romano-Celtic and the inscriptions was written in Latin. The Celts still didn't have their own written languages. Even with these names, the Roman writers still compare them with the names of Roman deities.Please note that some of ancient Celtic deities can also be found in the page called Welsh and British Deities. Some of the ancient Celtic deities, like Lugus, Camulos and Cernunnos, are popular in both Continental Europe and Britain, so I have listed them under the Gallic Deities (this page), otherwise they will be listed under the British deities page.I would also like to point out that most of the Gallic or British gods that we know, were not always universally accepted. Many of the Gallic gods were localised to a particular region or tribe. Only some deities were more widely accepted than others. And some gods are known by a different name.Also, the Celtic people really didn't have their own writing systems. The oghams were a later invention, perhaps in the 3rd century. However, the worshippers of the Celtic gods, did adopted Greek or Latin writing. So, most of the names of Celtic deities, come down to us, from Latin or even Greek inscriptions. Abellio Abnoba Aericura Alisanos Ancamma Andarta Arduinna Artaius Aveta Belenus Borvo Brigindo Camulos Cathubodua Cernunnos Epona Esus genius cucullatus Grannus Lenus Lugus Matres Nantosuelta Nehalennia Nemausius Ogmios Rigisamus Ritona Rosmerta Rudiobus Sequana Sirona Smetrios Sucellus Taranis Tarvus Tigaranus Teutates VosegusRelated pages: British Deities Roman DeitiesAbellioAbellio was a Romano-Celtic god of tree. His name was found in the inscriptions in the Garonne valley, in south-west France.AbnobaAbnoba was a goddess of the forest and river. Abnoba is a Romano-Celtic goddess who was popular in the Black Forest (in Germany).AericuraAericura was chthonic god of the underworld. Aericura is a Romano-Celtic (Gallic) god, known only from inscriptions.AlisanosAlisanos was a local chthonic god of the earth. His name was in inscriptions found in the region of Côte d'Or, east-central France.AncammaAncamma or Ancama was the Romano-Celtic goddess of water. Her inscriptions were found at region of Trier, in south western Germany. There is a sanctuary at the spring, in Möhn, where it was dedicated to her and Smetrios.AndartaAndarta was the Gallic goddess of fertility. Andarta was the patron goddess of the Vocantii tribe. She should not be confused with the British goddess of war, Andrasta.ArduinnaArduinna was the Gallic goddess of the forest and hunting, which the Romans had identified her with Diana (Artemis). Arduinna had been depicted in art, riding on the back of a wild boar. She seemed to be popular around the Ardennes region.Related InformationRelated ArticlesDiana.Artaius and ArtioArtaius or Artio was the bear god in Gaul (France), particularly in present-day Switzerland. The Romans had identified Artaius with Mercury.Some scholars believed that King Arthur may have originally being a god, and was derived from the Gallic god Artaius. Though, Artaius had also been identified with another Welsh figure, named Gwydion.The female form of this deity was Artio or Dea Artio, the bear-goddess. There's a Roman statutte of Artio, now housed in the Historisches Museum, in Bern. The art depicted the goddess seated, facing a bear.Related InformationNameArtaius, Artaios – "bear-god" (Gallic).Artio – "bear-goddess.Gwydyon, Gwydion (Welsh).Mercury (Roman).Arthur, Artorius, Artu.Related ArticlesMercury, Gwydion, Arthur.ArtioRoman statue AD 200 Historisches Museum, BernAvetaAveta was the goddess of birth. She was also the patron goddess of midwifery. At Toulon-sur-Allier (France), the clay figurines are the main source of information to Aveta. She was depicted with infants suckling her breast.BelenusBelenus was one of the most ancient of Celtic gods. Apart from his fire festival called Beltane, was held on the May 1, and that his name means "Bright One", suggested that he was a fire or a sun god. However there was every little evidence that he was sun god, nor was the festival held to worship the sun.Belenus was a popular deity, particular in Italy, Noricum (Switzerland and Austria) and Gaul (France). The Romans equated Belenus with the Greek/Roman god, Apollo, who was also the god of light and healing.Belenus was associated with Irish deity named Bilé (Bile), the consort of the goddess Danu. The Welsh literature called him Beli, husband of Don (Danu). Both Bilé and Beli were actually the god of death and darkness. Therefore, they were more closer to Dis Pater or Pluto, the god of the dead and the Underworld.Related InformationName"Bright One".Belenus, Bel (Gallic).Bile, Bilé (Irish).Beli (Welsh).Related ArticlesBilé, Beli, Danu. Don.BorvoBorvo was the Gallic god of healing. Borvo was also identified with therapeutic spring and mineral bath.BrigindoBrigindo was the Gallic goddess, also called Brigandu. She was a popular goddess throughout the Celtic world. Brigindo was the goddess of arts, crafts, fertility, and possibly of war. Her name means "Exalted One" or "High One".The Imbolc was a pagan spring festival held in her honour on February 1.Brigit or Brigid was the Irish equivalent of Brigindo. In Britain she was called Brigantia, where the Celts living in northern region of England was named after her. The Romans had identified her as Minerva (Athena).Related InformationName"Exalted One""High One"Brigindo, Brigandu (Gallic).Brigit, Brigid (Irish).Brigantia (British).Minerva (Roman).Related ArticlesBrigit, Brigantia, Minerva.CamulosCamulos (Camulus) was a Romano-Celtic god of war. The Romans associated Camulos with Mars (Ares), the Roman god of war.Though, a British city Camulodunum (Colchester, in Essex) was named after Camulos, Camulos was the tribal god of the Remi, a Gallic tribe living in Belgium, Netherland and Germany, particularly near the cities of Mogontiacum (Mainz) and Rindern.The wild boar was his symbol. Camulos was said to have wield an invincible sword. Coins found in Camulodunum, depicted the god with ram-horns.Related InformationNameCamulos, Camulus (Romano-Celtic).Related ArticlesMars.CathuboduaCathubodua was the Continental goddess of war similar to the Irish Badb Catha (see Morrigan).CernunnosCernunnos was the Horn One, because he worn antlers of the stag on his head. He was often called the "Lord of the Wild Things".He was clearly a god of nature, and probably of fertility of animals and agriculture. Cernunnos was also god of grains and fruits.Cernunnos was equated with another god with stag-like antlers on his head, Belatucadnos, a British god of war. The Romans associated Cernunnos with their god Mercury (Hermes), though Julius Caesar associated him with Dis Pater, cthlonic god of the underworld. The early Christians associated Cernunnos as the Devil or Anti-Christ, because of pagan ritual.The worship of Cernunnos can be found in the France, Alps, Italy, and in Britain. The most famous depiction of Cerrunnos can be found on the Gundestrup Cauldron (c. 1st century BC).Related InformationName"Horned One","Lord of All Wild Things".Cernunnos, Cerunnus.Belatucadnos (British).Mercury (Roman).Related ArticlesBelatucadnos, Mercury (Hermes).EponaEpona was the a Romano-Celtic goddess of horses. Epona was known throughout Continental Europe, particularly worshipped by the Gauls in France and Italy. Her cult would later spread to Britannia (Britain).The Roman adopted the Gallic goddess as the patron-goddess of cavalrymen, and was the only Celtic deity to be worshipped in Rome; annual festival in Epona's honour on December 18. She can be found in arts in both Celtic and Roman world.Epona was also called Bubona. In the Moselle valley, the name Eponabus indicated triple goddesses.Epona was associated with the later Welsh horse-goddess, Rhiannon and the Irish goddess Macha.Statuttes usually depicted her riding a horse side-saddle, sometimes accompanied with a dog and bird.Related InformationNameEpona, Bubona – "Horse-Goddess" (Romano-Celtic).Macha (Irish).Rhiannon (Welsh).Related ArticlesMacha, Rhiannon.EponaStone statuette, 2nd century ADMuseum of Alesia, AlesiaEsusEsus' name means "Lord" or "Master". Esus was the husband of Rosmerta.Esus was identified with the Roman god Mercury (Hermes).The Roman poet Lucan mentioned (in the Pharsalia, Book I) Esus along with two other gods – Taranis and Teutates. Blood sacrifices were made to all three gods among the Ligurian and Treveri tribes. Esus was the god associated with blood-sacrifice and hanging.For some reason, he was depicted with three birds and a bull.Related InformationNameEsus – "Lord".Esus, Hesus (Gallic).Mercury (Roman).SourcesThe Pharsalia was written by Lucan.Related ArticlesRosmerta, Taranis, Teutates, Mercury.EsusStone carving from the Ara Nautae, found under Notre-Dame cathedral in ParisMusée du Moyen Age, Cluny (Paris)genius cucullatusgenius cucullatus, which mean the "Hooded One" are somewhat of mysterious figure. The hooded cloak is called cucullus.Stone and clay statuettes and stone-carvings of genius cucullatus have been found in both Continental Europe and Britain.The length of the hooded cloak varied from the head to waist or covered from head all the way to his/her ankles, where only their face, ankles and feet are exposed. More often than not, the figures have footwear on their feet. Only a few images have the hoods pushed back to their shoulders.Who are these hooded figures? There seemed to be many speculations and theories on genius cucullatus, and their attributes remained a mystery to this day.Even the gender of the figures are difficult to determine. Some seemed to be clearly male, while others indicate to be female, but usually their sex are ambiguous. However, there are number of clay figures found in the Moselle regions, where they wear moustaches to indicate they are male, are obvious signs to their gender.What other gods they appeared with and what they hold in their hands may give us the signs of their attributes. They sometimes appeared either singular or as triplet, with the mother goddess (eg. Rosmerta), suggested that they are connected with healing and fertility; and if they are holding a fruit or a money bag, then it would symbolise fertility and prosperity. Statuettes found near springs would indicate that they were deities of healing, since water was symbol of health and healing, such as the thermal bath at Aque Sulis (Bath). Swords may indicated they are guardians or in the case where appear next to Lenus, god of healing, would indicate they are protection against disease.The genius cucullatus has been confused with another hooded figure, Telesphorus, who appeared in Greek/Roman myths as the son of Asclepius. However, Telesphorus, usually appeared bare-footed, holding a scroll in hold hand. But since Romans have conquered and settled in the provinces, it is sometimes difficult to determined are Telesphorus or genius cucullatus. If there are three hooded figures, then we can safely say they are Celtic. The difficulties is to determining the singular figure.More frequently objects found in Britain are usually grouped in three (genii cucullati), found in north near the Hadrain's Wall and in southwest in Gloustershire. While those found in Gaul and the Rhine regions tends to be singular figure. The genii cucullati found in Gaul, often appeared in dwarfish size.Related InformationNamegenius cucullatus (singular),genii cucullati (plural).Related ArticlesRosmerta, Lenus, Asclepius.genii cucullati (Hooded Ones)Stone relief, AD 225found at Housesteads (Bercovicium), Northumberland, EnglandHousesteads MuseumGrannusGrannus was the Romano-Celtic god of healing and the spring.Grannus was widely worshipped in Continental Europe. Mineral springs in Brittany, Aix-la-Chapelle, Grand (Vosges, eastern France), and Trier (in Germany) were all sacred to Grannus. There are some artefacts found where he was depicted beside the goddess Sirona, who was also the goddess of healing spings.Grannus was associated with Apollo as Apollo Granni.Related InformationRelated ArticlesApollo, Sirona.Sirona and Grannus2nd century ADMusée archéologique de Dijon, Burgundy, FranceLenusLenus was the Celtic god of healing, worshipped by the Celts throughout Continental Europe, but particularly by the Treveri, where inscriptions were found.The Romans later adopted Lenus, calling him Lenus Mars.Related InformationNameLenus.Lenus Mars (Roman).Related ArticlesMars.LugusLugus was one of the most popular deities to Celts. Several cities were named after him, Lugdunum (Lyon) in southern France, Lugdunum Batavorum (Leiden) in the Netherland, and Luguvallium (Carlisle) in northern England. Lugus was also worshipped in several sites on the Spanish province of Tarraconensis (including the tribes of Gallaeci, Astures, Cantabri and Celtiberians.Lugus was the god of light or of the sun, where the Romans identified him with their god Apollo. With skill in many crafts, he was also identified with another Roman god, Mercury (Hermes).Related InformationNameLugus, Lugos (Gallic).Lugh, Lug (Irish).Lleu (Wales).Apollo (Greco-Roman); Mercury (Roman).Related ArticlesLugh, Lleu. Mercury.God of Bouray (Lugus?)1st century ADMuseum of St-Germain-en-Laye, FranceMatresMatres was a triad of mother goddesses, worshipped through much of Continental Europe, especially around the Rhine regions.There were numerous images and figurines of the mother goddesses, such as carrying or suckling children. They were also seen carrying the cornucopia or basket of fruit. The cornucopia was a symbol of prosperity and fertility.They were household deities that guarded against diseases and famines. There were indication that they were goddesses of healing, which were symbolised by the dogs at their feet.The Matres were known as the Treverae among the Treveri tribe around modern day Trier (west Germany), and at Nimes (southern France) they were called the Nemausicae.The Romans had equated Matres with Terra Mater and the Germanic goddess Nerthus.Related InformationNameMatres – "mother"Deane Matres, Matronae.Treverae (at Trier).Nemausicae (at Nimes).Terra Mater (Roman); Nerthus (Germanic).Related ArticlesTerra Mater, Nerthus.Matronae or MatresStone relief, 2nd century ADMümling-Grumbach, Odenwald, GermanyNantosueltaNantosuelta was the Gallic goddess of nature, valley and streams. She was the consort of Sucellus, the god of fertility or prosperity.The Gaul craftsmen depicted Nantosuelta holding a pole surmounted by dove-cote. Nantosuelta was a mother goddess or fertility goddess because she was seen carrying a cornucopia.Her symbol was also the raven, which linked her with the dead and the Underworld.Related InformationNameNantosuelta – "Winding River".Related ArticlesSucellus.NehalenniaNehalennia was the Romano-Celtic goddess worshipped around the region of the Netherlands. Nehalennia was the goddess of seafarers, and was the tribal goddess of the Morini.Nehalennia was depicted standing on prow of a boat, holding either an oar or rope in her hands. Nehalennia was also seen carrying a cornucopia or a basket of fruits, which symbolised fertility, and suggesting she was the goddess of fertility.NemausiusNemausius was a Roman-Celtic god of the sacred spring at Nimes, in southern France. Nimes was a capital of one of the Gallic tribe who lived in the region around the spring.OgmiosOgmios was a Gallic god known for his strength. The Romans identified Ogmios as Hercules (Heracles to the Greeks), wearing a cloak made of lion's hide, carrying a club and bow.Ogmios also appeared as an old man who was followed by a crowd with their ears attached to his mouth by a golden chain. This was to indicate he was the god of eloquence, keeping the crowd spellbound with his oratory.Ogmios was identified as the Irish god Ogma (Oghma). Ogma was the son of the goddess Danu and Dagda. He was the god of eloquence and poetry.Related InformationNameOgmios, Ogmius, Ogamius (Gallic).Ogma (Irish).Hercules (Roman).Related ArticlesOgma. Hercules.Ogmios(Sorry, no information available)RigisamusA Celtic god of war. Rigisamus or Rigonmetis had been assimilated with the Roman god of war, Mars (Ares). Perhaps, it is an epithet to the Gaulish Mars.Related InformationRelated ArticlesMars.RitonaGoddess of rivers and fords. Ritona was a Romano-Celtic goddess, associated with the Treveri tribe. Inscriptions are found in this region.RosmertaRosmerta was a fertility goddess. Rosmerta was depicted as woman carry basket of fruit, possibly Cornucopia, suggests that she was goddess of abundance. She was sometimes seen as carrying a two-headed axe.Rosmerta was the wife of Mercury. Rosmerta was associated with Maia, who was the mother of Mercury. Rosmerta was popular in Gaul (France).Related InformationNameRosmerta – "Great Provider".Related ArticlesEsus, Mercury.RosmertaStatueClermont-Ferrand, FranceRosmerta of ChampouletStatue found Champoulet-LoiretMuseum of St-Germain-en-Laye, FranceRudiobusRudiobus was the Gallic god of the horses. Inscription was found at Neuvy-en-Sullias, which included the depiction of a stallion.SequanaA river goddess. Sequana was a tutelary goddess of the Sequanae tribe, who occupied territory between the Saône, Rhône and Rhine rivers. Sequana was also a goddess of healing.She had been depicted wearing diadem, standing on a boat with her arms spread out.SironaGoddess of healing springs. Judging by the number of sites dedicated to Sirona, from Brittany in the west to Hungary in the east, she was a popular goddess.Artefacts have being found where she was depicted alone or with the god Grannus (Apollo Grannus), who was also the god of healing and of healing springs.A shrine found in Hochscheid of the Moselle valley, Sirona was depicted as a seated goddess, wearing a diadem on her head, a dog resting on her lap, a snake entwined around her right arm, while she was holding three eggs. The snake is often a symbol of healing in ancient civilizations or culture, while the eggs clearly symbolized fertility.Icons of her were also found in Mainz and in Sainte-Fontaine. In the former she holds grapes in her hand, in the later, she was in possession of grains and fruits.Related InformationNameSirona, Divona, Dirona.Related ArticlesGrannus.Sirona and Grannus2nd century ADMusée archéologique de Dijon, FranceSmetriosSmetrios or Smetrius was the Gallic god of war. Smetrios was the tutelary deity of the Treveri.It is possible that Smetrios is not a name of individual god, rather that it is a title or epithet used by several Gaulish gods, such as Cernunnos, Esus and Tarvus Trigaranus.Smetrios was said to be depicted as a bearded god holding a rearing snake in one hand, while the other hand held either a club or a firebrand. Smetrios has been identified with the Roman god Mars (Ares) and Hercules (Heracles). He was referred to sometimes as Mars Smetrius.At Möhn, near Trier, there was a large temple enclosing a sacred spring, sacred to Smetrios and his consort, Ancamma, a water goddess. Because of the spring and the meaning of his name, which possibly means "Provider", Smetrios was a god of healing spring and god of plenty.Outside of Gaul, his name can be found on invocation at Grossbach, Austria.Related InformationNameSmetrios, Smetrius – "Provider" or "Abdundance".Related ArticlesAncamma, Cernunnos, Esus, Tarvus Trigaranus, Mars (Ares), Hercules (Heracles.SucellusSucellus was possibly the god of feast and providence. His consort was Nantosuelta, the goddess of nature and water.Sucellus was depicted carrying a long-handed hammer and a cauldron, suggesting that those who invoked his name, either ask him for protection or provision. This sort of associated him with the Irish god, Dagda, because Dagda's weapon was a huge club on wheels, and he also possessed a magic cauldron.Sucellus was also seen accompanied by a raven and a three-headed dog. These link him to the funerary practice.Sucellus was possibly also the god of the woodland and agriculture (fertility). He was therefore equated with the Roman woodland god Silvanus.Related InformationNameSucellus – "Good Striker".Related ArticlesNantosuelta, Dagda.SucellusBronze statuette from Prémeaux (France)TaranisSince Taranis' name means "Thunderer", Taranis was identified with the Germanic god Donar and with the Roman god Jupiter. His name suggests that he was the god of rain, storm and thunder. His symbol was the spoke wheel.Taranis was one of three gods mentioned by the Roman poet Lucan; the other gods were Esus and Teutates. His sacrificial victims (human?) were placed in a wicker image before it was burn.Related InformationNameTaranis – "Thunderer".Jupiter (Roman).SourcesThe Pharsalia was written by Lucan.Related ArticlesEsus, Teutates, Jupiter (Zeus).TaranisBronze statuetteTarvus TrigaranusTarvus Trigaranus was the Gallic bull god. Almost nothing is known about Tarvus Trigaranus, except for some images of him as a bull, on some stone carvings.During the reign of the Roman emperor Tiberius, boatmen from the Seine River, near Paris erected a monument, which depicted several gods, including Esus, Tarvus, Jupiter and Vulcanus. At Dorchester, England, it depicted Tarvus as a bull with three cranes perched on his back. Some show Tarvus as a bull with three horns.Related InformationNameTarvus, Travos.Tarvus Trigaranus – "Tarvus of the Three Cranes".Tarvus TrigaranusStone carving from the Ara Nautae found under Notre-Dame cathedral in ParisMusée du Moyen Age, Cluny (Paris)TeutatesTeutates, whose name means "God of the People", was mentioned by the Roman poet Lucan, who identified him with the Roman gods – Mars (Ares) or Mercury (Hermes). Teutates was seen as the god of war, wealth and fertility.Lucan mentioned Teutates along with Esus and Taranis, whom the Gauls (Ligurian and Treveri tribes) practiced blood sacrificial rites. Teutates was associated with rites in which his victims were drowned in sacrificial lake.Related InformationNameTeutates – "God of the People".Teutates, Toutates (Gallic).Totatis (British).Mars (Ares), Mercury (Hermes).SourcesThe Pharsalia was written by Lucan.Related ArticlesEsus, Taranis.VosegusVosegus was an eponym or personification of the Vosges, a region with mountains and forests in eastern France. Vosegus was a god of nature or the animals in that region. Vosegus had been depicted carrying a pig under www.timelessmyths.com Edited August 19, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Agroná was the British goddess of battle and slaughter. The Welsh god Aeron had derive his name from her.Related InformationNameAgroná, Agrona.Related ArticlesAeron.AlaisiagaeAlaisiagae was the minor British goddess, who was identified in homesteads in Northumberland in a shrine to Mars.AndrastaAndrasta (Andraste) was the Romano-Celtic goddess of war. Her name means the "Invincible One". Andrasta was a patron goddess of the Iceni tribe. It was said that Boudicca, the British warrior queen prayed to Andrasta, before going into battle the against her Roman foes. It is believed that the goddess received human sacrifices.She was also probably linked with the more peaceful Gallic goddess named Andarta.ArnemetiaArnemetia was a Romano-Celtic water goddess. Not much is known about Arnemetia, since there are very little inscriptions.BelatucadnosBelatucadnos was the British god of war. Belatucadnos was probably equated with Cernunnos, because he was similarly depicted with stag-like antlers or horns.The Romans identified Belatucadnos with the Roman god of war, Mars.Related InformationNameCernunnos? (Gallic).Mars (Roman).Related ArticlesCernunnos, Mars.BrigantiaBrigantia was the tribal goddess of the Brigantes, the British Celts living in the large region named after her, in northern England. The Romans identified Brigantia with Minverva (Athena).Brigantia was a popular goddess, where she was worshipped and called Brigindo in Gaul (France), and Brigit in Ireland.Brigantia was the goddess of war, healing and water. Brigantia was also goddess of fertility and prosperity.Related InformationName"High One" or "Queen".Brigantia (British).Brigindo, Brigandu (Gallic).Brigit, Brigid, Brighid, Brid, Bridget (Irish).Minerva (Roman).Related ArticlesBrigindo, Brigit.Minerva.BritanniaA tutelary goddess. A Romano-Celtic goddess who was often associated with the Roman goddess Minerva (Athena). During the reign of Claudius Caesar, the Romans conquered Britain in AD 43, they named the new province after the goddess, Britannia.CocidiusCocidius was a Celtic-British goddess of hunting. Stone relief was found in Risingham, Yorkshire.CoventinaA tutelary goddess of the river and spring. The river was named after Coventina and was also worshipped by the Romans.Her sacred spring was at Brocolitia (Carrawburgh), a Roman fort on the Hadrian's wall. Here, votive offerings were made to the goddess at her springs. Usually money, pins and pearls were thrown into the well. Over 13,000 Roman coins were found in the well.Coventina was also popular in Aquae Sulis, a town which now called Bath. She was worshipped in Bath along with two othe British goddesses: Sulis and Nemetona.A monumental carving and bas relief were found, with her name associated with three nymphs, who were holding vessels of steaming water.CoventinaStone relief, 2nd-3rd century ADMuseum of Antiquities, Newcastle-upon-TyneMaponusMaponus (Maponos) was the Roman-Celtic god of music and poetry. Maponus had been identified with the god Apollo, who was also god of music. Maponus had also been equated with the Irish god, Angus Og or Mac Oc, the son of Dagda. However, Maponus was frequently appeared as the divine youth, and was possibly more closely related to the Welsh Mabon, the divine youth.His cult were mainly found in Britain, and was the tutelary god of the Brigantes tribe. Though there are also some evidences that he was worshipped in Gaul (France), known through some inscriptions.Related InformationNameMaponus, Maponos.Related ArticlesAngus Og, Apollo.NemetonaNemetona was the goddess of the grove or sacred grove.Nemetona was usually associated with healing springs, like Coventina and Sulis. Nemetona was popular in the city of Bath, known as Aquae Sulis in Roman period, where several images can be found of her. Her divine consort was the British Mars. Usually, she was seen seated like a queen holding a sceptre. Around her were three hooded figures and a ram.Some people associated Nemetona with Nemain, one of the Irish triple goddess of war, known as the Morrigans, though Nemetona had never exhibited warlike tendency.Related InformationNameNemetona (British).Nemain (Irish).Related ArticlesCoventina, Sulis, Nemain (Morrigan).NodonsNodons was a British (Romano-Celtic) god of healing. Nodons was associated with the Irish god, Nuada Airgedlámh ("Nuada of the Silver Hand"), and the Welsh god, Lludd Llaw Ereint (Nudd).There was a great temple of Nodons established at Lydney on the River Severn, in Gloustershire, in AD 365. Nodons was said to come into the temple and heal the sicks.The dogs were sacred to Nodons.Related InformationNameNodons, Nodens, Nudens (Briton).Nuada Argetlam (Irish).Lludd, Nudd (Welsh).Lludd Llaw Ereint – "Lludd Silver Hand".Related ArticlesSee also Nuada or Nudd (Lludd).OcelusOcelus was a Romano-Celtic god of healing. Ocelus was usually associated with the Roman god, Mars (Ares).SulisGoddess of healing springs. Sulis is actually a Latin name for the British goddess. The Romans identified her as the Gaulish Minerva, where she was known as Sulis Minerva.Her city was named after her as Aquae Sulis, which is modern Bath. Because of the hot spring, the Romans had built a Roman bath in this town. She was one of several goddesses worshipped at Bath. The other two goddesses were Coventina and Nemetona.The worship of Sulis had spread all the way to Hesse in Germany. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crooked Philosopher Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 I'm a scenario designer from Age of Mythology so you might recognise some ideas.Carthaginians- Tanit/Caelestis (War goddess and saint of the nurses): War bonus, healing bonus for priests- Ba'al (God of fertility and vegetation): Field and sheep bonus- Astarte (Goddess of war): Cavalry bonus and towerdefense bonus (night's watch, for she is the godess of the evening)Britons- Cernunnos (God of fertility and nature): Food bonus- Alaisiagae (War god): Military bonus- Andred (invoked by Boudica): Scouting bonus - possibility to summon Boudica in lategame- Belo (god of death): Inspires soldiers and citizen of lower social status.- Cocidius (god of hunting, forests, groves and wild fields): Hunt and wood cutting bonus- Conventina (goddess of springs and wells): grants food on a stable basis- ChristianityGauls- Abnoba (goddess of the black forest, goddess of hunting): Hunt bonus- Ancamna (goddess of Trier and warfare): Defensive and warfare bonus- Arduinna (goddess of the Ardennes): Hunt and gather bonus- Arvernus/Gebrinius (Mercury: intelligence, fertility): Farming bonus and cheaper building bonus- Iovantucarus (God of youth protection): Citizen and light infantry are cheaper- Intarabus/Narius (god of war and spears): Spearman bonus- Ritona (a goddess of nature often related with dogs and babies): War dog bonus- Vosegus (god of hunting): Ranged units bonus- Nehalennia (dutch celtic goddess of marine and storms): Ships bonusAthenians---Spartans---Macedonians---Iberians- Abellio (Aquitanian god of apple trees): Forage gathering bonus, wood cutting bonus- Cariocecus (Lusitanian god of war): sheeps bonus, cavalry bonus and priest bonus- Endovelicus (god of health and safety): healing bonus, grants resources, ability to summon a defenseguard unit.- Ataegina (goddess of fertility): Farming bonus- Bandua (goddess of rivers and streams): Ship bonusPersians- Zoroastrianism: Ahura Mazda (Illuminating Wisdom, divine light): Cavalry bonus, citizen and light infantry speed and hitpoints bonus.- Zoroastrianism: Angra Mainyu (Destructrive Spirit, devil): Ranged units bonus, death units return 10% of the resources they costed.- Judaïsm? (conquered Judea/Israel)- Shamash and Ishtar? (conquered Mesopotamia)- Ba'al (conquered Tyre/Phoenicia/Levant)Romans---Mauryans---Ptolmaeis---I hope people like this idea Do we need that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oshron Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 but weren't the Achaemenid Persians Zoroastrians? (read: monotheists) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_religionsAre few religions Zurvanism is a branch of Zoroastrism .And one more time Babylon have solutions.The personification of the two great luminaries — the Sun and the Moon — was the first step in the unfolding of this system, and this was followed by placing the other deities where Shamash and Sin had their seats. This process, which reached its culmination in the post-Hammurabic period, led to identifying the Planet Venus with Ishtar, Jupiter with Marduk, Mars with Nergal, Mercury with Nabu, and Saturn with Ninurta.The system represents a harmonious combination of two factors, one of popular origin, the other the outcome of speculation in the schools attached to the temples of Babylonia. The popular factor is the belief in the influence exerted by the movements of the heavenly bodies on occurrences on earth — a belief naturally suggested by the dependence of life, vegetation and guidance upon the two great luminaries. Starting with this belief the Priests and Priestesses built up the theory of the close correspondence between occurrences on earth and phenomena in the Heavens. The Heavens presenting a constant change even to the superficial observer, the conclusion was drawn of a connection between the changes and the everchanging movement in the fate of individuals and of nature as well as in the appearance of nature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolanjoker Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 but is more ancient? is possibly the Persian pray other gods? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 More gods.Gaul Teutates Epona Esus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythos_Ruler Posted September 1, 2013 Report Share Posted September 1, 2013 If there were such a thing as choosing deities at the Temple, they should be limited to maybe 3 of the most important per culture.But the problem with "choosing a deity" in a game like this is that our game is grounded in the natural world, whereas a game like 'Age of Mythology' had supernatural elements that could change the course of the game. In AOM, choosing a Major or Minor god affected all kinds of supernatural things, like monsters, God powers, religious or mythological bonuses (techs), but in 0 A.D. we have none of that stuff. In real life, how did worshipping Athena affect a nation's economy or military might over worshipping Artemis? Likely worshipping either wouldn't have made a difference at all. See what I'm saying? Unless there's some kind of thing where you get diplomatic bonuses for dealing with players who have the same patron god or something like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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