sanderd17 Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 @gameboy: Where did you get the errorlog?http://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/GameDataPathshttp://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/Logging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 In the lástima weekend i see the Ai not match for me, even Qbot and Aegis Bot, dont attack me in hard. And dont expand them. Before was to hard for me matching against them, my last great battle with Aegis was several weeks ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanderd17 Posted August 12, 2013 Report Share Posted August 12, 2013 In the lástima weekend i see the Ai not match for me, even Qbot and Aegis Bot, dont attack me in hard. And dont expand them. Before was to hard for me matching against them, my last great battle with Aegis was several weeks ago.Some changes in the code (like limiting the number of workers on a field) broke aegis economics (they only make one field, so never gather enough food). It should be fixed for next release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Lately Aegis doesn't seem to attack my base, even on Very Hard difficulty. Hard to believe I've just gotten that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 In svn or in the release? But that happens with all AI when are coming to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 I'm playing from a recent SVN update.Not sure what you mean by your second sentence. Did you mean "the AI is becoming too loose?" I build towers as soon as I get to Town Phase, expecting the bad guys to arrive any moment, and lately they never show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pureon Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 The svn AI is currently incompatible with some of the new features that have been added for the Alpha 14 release. The problem you describe will be fixed before Alpha 14 is released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Ah, so I can go back to losing soon! I'll svn update every few days then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanderd17 Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 Ah, so I can go back to losing soon! I'll svn update every few days then.We wait until Wraitii is back from holidays. For now, the AI only uses one field, but because the number of workers per field has been limited, they never produce enough food to do something.A quick fix is to go to simulation/ai/qbot-wc/economy.js, and delete the condition around line 130 (keeping only the line that has the comment "5 workers per field max"). It doesn't fix everything, but it's a dirty hack to at least make the AI do something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 14, 2013 Report Share Posted August 14, 2013 (edited) My real name's James Baillie, since that doesn't seem to be in at present. That happens with Qbot? And Jubal returns if we asked to update the Jubot, I miss that system to attack, if we do more aggressive a constantly rusher are very entrained, I love Aegis are similar but Qbot in the early alphas make me cry like Medium Ai of Starcraft 2 and that Ai is a cheater XD.The turtles love play against rusher, they test defenses very well.The Ai can have fleet behavior, that's happens when calculates they can't won a skirmish.I found this, they programming them own sc2 Ai and explain how, may be see quickly view can get ideas. http://sc2.nibbits.com/articles/view/10/ Edited August 15, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quantumstate Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 I found this, they programming them own sc2 Ai and explain how, may be see quickly view can get ideas.http://sc2.nibbits.c...ticles/view/10/Unfortunately this article just gives a very basic introduction about how to use the AI API for SC2 so isn't at all useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) But if i give a user avanced in this API can be useful? Because this team work hard to have own Ai.Here is a explication of each level very basic:http://starcraft.wikia.com/wiki/AI_scriptI found that, is very complex http://graphics.stanford.edu/~mdfisher/GameAIs.htmlhttp://sscaitournament.com/index.php?action=downloads Edited August 15, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolanjoker Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 https://github.com/Blizzard/api-sc2-docsany idea what they are doing this API Ai? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 15, 2013 Report Share Posted August 15, 2013 (edited) http://sc2.nibbits.c...s/green-tea-ai/http://sc2.nibbits.com/forums/39/view/1301/gt-ai-code-wikigreen Tea Ai.IMPROVING ADAPTIVE GAME AI WITH EVOLUTIONARY LEARNINGhttp://citeseerx.ist...p=rep1&type=pdfFlee behavior http://forums.epicgames.com/threads/928304-Flee-AI Edited August 15, 2013 by Lion.Kanzen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historic_bruno Posted August 19, 2013 Report Share Posted August 19, 2013 Aegis is working much better in SVN I saw a few notifications though, using alpha123's new change player control, one was about an embassy having a build limit of one (apparently it's ignoring the limit), the other was about building a field on invalid terrain. That reminded me of running a game with command debugging turned on in Commands.js, here are examples of some interesting warnings:WARNING: Invalid command: repair target is not owned by ally of player 3: ({type:"repair", entities:[7569], target:7844, autocontinue:false, queued:false})WARNING: Invalid command: build restrictions check failed with 'Field cannot be built on invalid terrain' for player 4: ({type:"construct", entities:[7230], template:"structures/spart_field", x:898, z:970, angle:2.356194490192345, autorepair:false, autocontinue:false, queued:false})WARNING: Invalid command: build limits check failed for player 2: ({type:"construct", entities:[7410], template:"structures/cart_embassy_italiote", x:414, z:166, angle:2.356194490192345, autorepair:false, autocontinue:false, queued:false})The repair failures have been around for a long time, but they are almost constant and should definitely be fixed at some point to avoid wasted CPU cycles/network bandwidth. None of these appear to be release blockers though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 20, 2013 Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 i was test it this weekend, now is good to excellent but can be best. that means more behaviors, prsonally use more Advanced commands(explore), transport in Water and Diplomacy, siege warfare, defending city walls- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraitii Posted August 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2013 It didn't actually change, I just fixed it. I still have quite a bit of work on the AI, in the end (naval stuffs remains semi-buggy and unoptimized, and the economy is not quite as good as it used to be as I've changed stuffs semi-blindly).Historic_Bruno, I agree about the errors, I'll have to look into them. The "wrong spot" one is annoying as right now the AI can't do anything about it, really. Fixing this means making plans resilient (probably easy to do) and means making the game send messages to the AI that a building placement has failed. This is more advanced behavior (tied with allowing the AI to scout the planned area beforehand for, say, Civil centers) and not started yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 ok, all development will become successful! but I want to know: What will the new Aegis AI when released? do this month? Thank you! :lol2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 22, 2013 Report Share Posted August 22, 2013 Gameboy he is too busy and he work when he want do it. Remember is a free project. And you can find a solution if you want. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 Sorry, I'm not a developer, but about the new Aegis AI was his development, I just want to know when you can get it, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 guy, the game is not perfect, yet,im if you dont like Aegis don't play with that AI, simple right? his a volunteer not a employ. if he don't what do it? what you can do about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 ok, guy! I just want to know the exact release date, is this the end? I asked him, ask him to answer this question!I really like this AI, thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 nobody knows, but he do it other things, not only this.other is that bug only happen to you, may be he dont know how solve, i like that Ai too.we need more volunteers to helping. is one way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wraitii Posted August 23, 2013 Author Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 We haven't yet sorted out issues on how to serialize the AI efficiently, so sadly this will take some more time Gameboy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gameboy Posted August 23, 2013 Report Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) You do not encounter this error, he has tested again, and he confirmed the existence of this error.@wraitii:I want to know what time you will finish it this month? Or Earlier in September? thank you! Edited August 23, 2013 by gameboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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