Game too difficult !

[Ludwik]

Hello, 

I set the default AI difficulty to Very Easy in the game settings, then set the default AI behavior to Random. 

But the game is still too difficult ! 

Is this normal ? 

Does anything else need to be changed to make the game a little easier ? 

Thanks in advance.

[Deicide4u]

Hello @Ludwik, welcome to the forums! 

The game is naturally competitive, as there are currently no official campaigns available. So, the only way to enjoy the single player is matches against the AI.

Many players, myself included, consider the current AI lacking after learning the basics of the game. Believe me, you will want a greater challenge once you get more familiar with the game.

My advice would be to watch some games on Youtube and reduce the game's speed at the start. Depending on your experience with other RTS games, you should quickly start winning against even the Medium AI

We also have the Game Replays section, where you can dowload some of my and other players games. 

Edited yesterday at 06:56 by Deicide4u
Added the replays info

[TheCJ]

27 minutes ago, Deicide4u said:

reduce the game's speed at the start

This is good advice and will reduce the challenge for now @Ludwik. There's a lot to do in 0ad, so giving yourself some time to think about what you wanna do will help you learn quicker.

Edited yesterday at 07:18 by TheCJ

[Atrik]

There is a warning iirc that suggest to new players to start with Petra "sandbox" before "very easy".

[Seleucids]

I think there is something we need to change here: make "very easy" AI much much easier. It took me several tries to beat this very easy AI when I was starting. This can be achieved by:

1. Nerfing infantry rushes, reduce size of attack even further

2. Huge anti-bonus to the AI's eco and attack strength.

[Deicide4u]

4 minutes ago, Seleucids said:

make "very easy" AI much much easier.

I'm not sure why should we make "Very Easy" easier when we already have a difficulty "Sandox". Which is what Very Easy will become if we nerf it even further. 

I don't think Very Easy reaches the City phase, but if it does, that should maybe be corrected.

[Seleucids]

The jump between sandbox and very easy is too big, imo. This is especially the case with my newly merged pull request where I buffed the eco and military performance of the bot

[Ludwik]

Hello, 

 

Thank you all for this advice

I'll run several tests. 

 

Have a nice day.

[Ludwik]

2 hours ago, Deicide4u said:

Hello @Ludwik, welcome to the forums! 

The game is naturally competitive, as there are currently no official campaigns available. So, the only way to enjoy the single player is matches against the AI.

Many players, myself included, consider the current AI lacking after learning the basics of the game. Believe me, you will want a greater challenge once you get more familiar with the game.

My advice would be to watch some games on Youtube and reduce the game's speed at the start. Depending on your experience with other RTS games, you should quickly start winning against even the Medium AI

We also have the Game Replays section, where you can dowload some of my and other players games. 

 

Can you tell me where I can see the Game Replays section ?

[Outis]

35 minutes ago, Deicide4u said:

I'm not sure why should we make "Very Easy" easier when we already have a difficulty "Sandox". Which is what Very Easy will become if we nerf it even further. 

I don't think Very Easy reaches the City phase, but if it does, that should maybe be corrected.

You can almost ignore sandbox but very easy still poses a challenge.

[Deicide4u]

@Ludwik

Replays for the latest release (alpha 27) are here:

https://wildfiregames.com/forum/forum/489-alpha-27/

To watch these replays, you must download them, and place them in the "replays" directory. On Windows, this directory is at:

Documents/My Games/0ad/replays

[fabio]

Alternatively, you may set up the game to add an ally to help you against the AI.

[Classic-Burger]

Try to use a small population in the settings, ~200-250. 

Don't let it develop unless you want to try to contain it, don't use closed maps because it generates lag.

Try maps with arctic biomes.

[Ludwik]

Good morning,

@Déicide4u

Thanks for the link, but how do I launch it in the game?

 

@Fabio

Thanks for this advice

 

@Burger classique

Thanks for the advice

Edited 1 hour ago by Ludwik

[Gurken Khan]

2 hours ago, Classic-Burger said:

Try to use a small population in the settings, ~200-250. 

Don't let it develop unless you want to try to contain it, don't use closed maps because it generates lag.

Try maps with arctic biomes.

I'm not sure smaller pops are advantageous for noobs. Don't know what "closed maps" are and how a noob would tell. I never play arctic biomes because of the wood scarcity, again not sure how that's supposed to help a new player.

For my own tips: set the AI behavior to "Defensive" so you can engage on your own terms and you don't get raided and your eco wrecked. There's plenty of guides out there (text and video) reagarding build order, strategy etc.

[Deicide4u]

1 hour ago, Gurken Khan said:

not sure smaller pops are advantageous for noobs

They should be. Smaller army for the player is both easier to control and means less lag when moving it. The AI doesn't know how to keep its army alive, so smaller armies are also easier to destroy. 

[Ludwik]

Good morning,

@Déicide4u

Thanks for the link, but how do I launch it in the game ?

[Deicide4u]

@Ludwik, that is a link to the forum thread. You need to go to a post in that thread and download the ZIP files. Once you do that, place them in your replays folder inside a separate folder. The subfolder's name should relate to the game (who fought, is it a team game, free for all or 1v1, etc.).

Then, in game, you go to

Single Player -> Replays

There, you should find your replay.

[Outis]

1 hour ago, Deicide4u said:

They should be. Smaller army for the player is both easier to control and means less lag when moving it. The AI doesn't know how to keep its army alive, so smaller armies are also easier to destroy. 

Indeed, a human player's ability to manage each unit efficiently decreases as there are more units, which is not the case for the AI. The AI booms uncontrollably if left unchecked.

Edited 49 minutes ago by Outis

[Gurken Khan]

2 hours ago, Deicide4u said:

Smaller army for the player is both easier to control and means less lag when moving it.

Is lag really a concern with two players?

I want 70-75 women for my eco, smaller pop would count against my army; but maybe that's just my take.