0 A.D's Built-in Encyclopedia

[ShadowOfHassen]

2 hours ago, vladislavbelov said:

Maybe cached? But I need steps to reproduce to tell more

Download the main branch of the repository, drag the mod parts into your mods, enable the then open Han in the civilization overview.(That's the fixed version)

If you want to try the bad version it's in the branch "problem" The differences between it and main is one little \. My guess is it is a cached something and after it runs an error the fixed version won't version.

[Vantha]

3 more finishing the cavalry:

These are the ones I was referring to when asking if I could write about more general stuff instead of specific units. I finally finished them. I put one in the stables, one in the cavalry spearman, and one in the cavalry archer.

Horses in the Han dynasty (for the stable): https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/106/

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Horses were very prevalent in ancient Chinese culture. They symbolized perseverance, resilience, and energy and had an important mythical meaning. Horse statues are abundantly found in graves, with the most famous being the “Flying Horse of Gansu”. This particular statue depicts a Ferghana horse, a breed to which supernatural strength and beauty were attribute.

Horses were fundamental to ancient Chinese society and saw use in many different areas. Stirrups, horse collars, and breast straps are all believed to have been invented in China. Even one of the Han dynasty's nine ministers, the almost highest layer of the government, was solely responsible for the empire's horses: the Minister Coachman. Horses generally were prestige items, though, and very expensive for the average citizen. Besides displaying their wealth, influential Han used them for transportation, either by riding them or having them pull carriages. And because of their high speed, horses were also used for messenging across longer distances. Equestrial sports like hunting or chariot racing were popular in ancient China as well. The game of polo, for example, dates back to the Han dynasty. And most importantly, of course, horses served as mounts for the military.

 Han cavalry in general (for the Cavalry spearman): https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/107

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During the early Han period, cavalry was more important than anywhere else in Chinese history. The Xiognu, a nomadic horse people, posed a constant threat and were frequently raiding the dynasty's northern regions. And for the Han, the only way to defend their borders was (besides building a wall, of course) their own cavalry force.                  

Han cavalrymen were equipped with either a bow, sword, halberd, or lance. Horses and riders wore plate armor made of iron, bronze, leather, or cloth. While this was, in comparison to nomads, heavy protection, Han cavalry units remained highly mobile.                 

A variety of tactics were applied by the Han cavalry force, many of which they adopted from the Xiognu. The most prevalent were typical melee cavalry charges. But ambushes and hit-and-run weren't uncommon either, as were less conventional tactics like feigning retreats. Cavalry was often supported by infantry and chariots or was used as an additional support force itself.                  

Because large parts of Han armies consisted of militia and fighting on a horse required high skill, cavalry was considered an elite unit. At least in comparison to infantry. For that reason, many cavalrymen came from influential clans and families. However, the Han also hired auxiliaries from different nomadic tribes who were, thanks to their lifestyle, very skilled on horseback. Although they were regarded as barbarians, their service was highly valued. Two of the most noteworthy were the Wusun and Wuhuan.

 

And the horses of the Han cavalry: https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/108

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Horses were vital for the Han military in combat against the nomadic horsemen of the North. Because combat-capable horses were, for this reason, a precious good, the possession and provision of horses for individuals were strictly regulated. There was, for example, a law in place that allowed families to exempt three men from military service if they could provide a strong, healthy horse instead.

However, indigenous Chinese breeds were comparably small and too weak for battle. This forced the Han to resort to other means of obtaining horses for their cavalry.

One possibility was through trading with various nomadic peoples. With Xiognu, for example, although their relations were generally hostile, the Han sometimes engaged in trade for livestock. The Wusun, on the other hand, another nomadic people, were close allies, and when forming the marriage alliance, the dowry even included 1,000 horses. If the Han couldn't trade for them, they took desired horses by force. The general Li Guangli famously conducted two very costly and dangerous exhibitions against the faraway Greco-Bactria to get hands on powerful horses — The War of the Heavenly Horses.

And to ensure sufficient mounts in the long term, the Han government carried out large-scale horse-breeding programs. So large-scale, in fact, that the number of available horses rose to multiple hundreds of thousands. They built many designated horse breeding stations, especially in the North and also in the West, the most precarious regions of the empire. And the horses were under the care of professional horsekeepers.

 

Btw, @ShadowOfHassen have you managed to fix the error?

Edited January 18 by Vantha

[ShadowOfHassen]

7 minutes ago, Vantha said:

 

Btw, @ShadowOfHassen have you managed to fix the error?

No, unfortunately not, I'm in the hands of the more experienced people.

[Vantha]

That's bad. The backslash came from one of my texts, right?

And I forgot to mention it in the last post, but I will write the heroes next.

[Vantha]

Ok, I figured it out. It was on me, there was another backslash in another file I edited. This fixes it: https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/109/

[ShadowOfHassen]

You fixed it @Vantha, there was just another slash that I was missing.

[Vantha]

Liu Bang: https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/110

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Liu Bang was born and grew up in the peasantry. When the Qin dynasty started to collapse with the many rebellions forming, Liu Bang was working as a local “police officer”. As once he was leading a group of prisoners, one escaped. Arriving late due to having to recapture the prisoner, or even worse, showing up with one prisoner missing, would likely both have him executed. So instead, he let all of them go and started revolting himself. Over the next few years, Liu Bang rose to become a successful general. However, it was Xiang Yu, the rebel leader, who ultimately defeated the Qin. Xiang Yu upon victory split China's land into eighteen kingdoms and instated nobles, or his generals, as rulers. Liu Bang received the land of Han.        

However, this didn't prove very stable. War broke out between the kingdoms again, and Liu Bang managed to take over several others. But despite his numerical superiority, he suffered heavy defeats against the state of Chu, led by Xiang Yu. Only when he combined the forces of many generals did Liu Bang beat Xiang Yu's forces in the Battle of Gaixia and encircle him. Although Xiang Yu was able to break through, he ultimately took his own life. Liu Bang had united China again, founded the Han dynasty in 202 BC, and appointed himself the first emperor, the Emperor Gaozu of Han.        

Liu Bang adopted many elements from the Qin dynasty. However, Liu Bang was also China's first ruler, originating from the peasantry. And this was clearly reflected in his decisions. He implemented policies lowering taxes on peasants to strengthen rural agriculture, thus restoring the war-impaired economy. He also reduced the severity of punishments from the Qin dynasty. This made Liu Bang very popular, especially among commoners. Inspired by a Confucianist teacher and philosopher, Liu Bang introduced Confucianism as the state ideology, in contrast to the legalistic approach present in the Qin dynasty.        

Although Liu Bang died of illness in 195 BC, the dynasty he had founded would go on to (with a short interruption) become the longest-lasting and one of the most prosperous' in Chinese history.

 

[ShadowOfHassen]

So I was looking up the Han Imperial academy again, and it looks like it's referring to the Taixue during the Han period.(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taixue)

However, the real name of the structure is the Dìguó Xuéyuàn. I can find nothing with that name.

Am I missing something?

 

Also, here's a PR for both the Han academy and the ministry, rounding up the Han's structures. https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/111

I think all we have to do is the heroes rewriting the overview.

[Vantha]

1 hour ago, ShadowOfHassen said:

However, the real name of the structure is the Dìguó Xuéyuàn. I can find nothing with that name.

Most likely a literal translation into Chinese. I've come across some names like this as well.

I'm working on Han Xin already by the way.

[wowgetoffyourcellphone]

It was a literal translation, yeah. We can call it "Taixue", since that is an actual institution. It's not a military academy, but it's an opportunity to teach something about the Han.

[ShadowOfHassen]

55 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said:

It was a literal translation, yeah. We can call it "Taixue", since that is an actual institution. It's not a military academy, but it's an opportunity to teach something about the Han.

Ok, I can make the change to my Pr so that the building's real name can be "Taixue" Then once the Han is finished and we (hopefully) start adding article's to the game, we don't forget to change it's name.

[Vantha]

Is it worth suggesting name changes like this? Because I'd have some too from my research for the encyclopedia.

[ShadowOfHassen]

7 hours ago, Vantha said:

Is it worth suggesting name changes like this? Because I'd have some too from my research for the encyclopedia.

Open a PR with them, and people can look them over to see if they agree.

[Vantha]

We already have a wall mixin, however, I think the Great Wall deserves a text of its own:

https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/112

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 Over the course of history, the Chinese were often under the threat if the nomadic horsemen inhabiting the Northen steppe. In the first millenium BC, the Chinese started building walls to protect themselves. And in the Qin dynasty (predecessor of the Han dynasty) the many individual pieces were connected to form a continouos wall, the Great Wall of China.        

However, as the Han dynasty was formed, the nomadic people's united as well under a people called Xiognu. Because they were frequently raiding border regions, the Han declared war in the late first century BC. As part of their strategy they renovated the wall and extended it further. Once they had taken control over the strategically important Hexi Corridor, the stroke of land leading to the West and where the biggest trade routes ran, they also constructed incredibly long walls along it. The Han in total doubled the entire Great Wall's length, now measuring more than 6,200 miles (10,000 kilometres). Longer than at any other point in history.          

The wall was constructed from material's of surrounding lands. This often meant rammed earth, clay or gravel varios plants. The materials were dried in the sun and as layers stacked up to form the wall. Although this might seem very simple and primitve, but it is very resilient. After all, some segments have not only survived the course of time, but also the harsh weather conditions in deserts, and are after more then 2,000 years still standing today.         

Along the walls stood beacon towers which would upon sighting the enemy send a fire signal for one of the many military colonies or garrisoned forts to send out an army and deal with the invaders. This was a crucial factor for the wars outcome, as it countered the Xiognu's fast hit-and-run tactics. And the Han managed to gain the upper hand and eventually emerge as victors.

 

[ShadowOfHassen]

14 minutes ago, Vantha said:

We already have a wall mixin, however, I think the Great Wall deserves a text of its own:

https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/112

 

I should've thought of that.

[Vantha]

The small "Zhanchuan" ship: https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/113

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Even though the large and heavy tower ships were the most widespread type of ship in ancient China, that doesn't mean there weren't smaller ones too. The role of light and small ships at sea can be compared to that of light cavalry on land. They didn't have the ramming power, and fewer men were stationed to board compared to larger ships, just as light cavalry lacked the punching force of heavier units. However, these heavy tower ships lacked maneuverability, were very bulky, and often cramped up in a small space. This left them extremely vulnerable to rammings or incendiary attacks, like in the Battle at the Red Cliffs. Small ships, in contrast, were, just like light cavalry, used as a mobile support force. They could perform surveillance or patrolling tasks or carry out quick hit-and-run attacks to disrupt the enemy formation or their logistics by targeting supply lines.

 

 

 

Edited January 23 by Vantha

[ShadowOfHassen]

At @Vantha's request, I rewrote his article for the Han temple and addressed some of the problems raised by @AIEND.

https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/114

[Vantha]

Han Xin: https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/115

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Han Xin grew up in bitter poverty. He was so poor, in fact, that he constantly struggled to get the necessary food and often had to rely on others. For that, he was despised by his town's residents. He even lost his mother very early in life and did not have the financial means to properly bury her. So, when rebellions broke out throughout the empire, Han Xin saw his chance and joined the rebel leader Xiang Yu.

Xiang Yu was a warlord renown for his bravery and considered the greatest warrior of his time. Together with his elite soldiers, he was regarded as almost invincible, even having defeated armies twenty times the size of his own.

It's said that Han Xin often made tactical suggestions to higher officers but felt not taken seriously and ignored. So, after Xiang Yu had defeated the Qin dynasty and split China into eighteen kingdoms, Han Xin decided to move over to the kingdom of Han under Liu Bang. Maybe because Liu Bang came, unlike other warlords, from destitue backgrounds as well. However, it didn't work out for him there either: for a small crime, he was put in jail and barely escaped execution. Only when he was about to desert again and find his luck somewhere else did some of Liu Bang's advisors, who appeared to be very impressed by the young soldier, gave him a chance and led him to Liu Bang himself. Han Xin was then, surprisingly, appointed chief commander of Liu Bang's armies.

And Han Xin didn't have to wait long to prove himself. As conflicts arose between several kingdoms, he took the chance. Han Xin sent soldiers to rebuild the Gallery Roads, the passage to other kingdoms, as a distraction. He simultaneously led an army to attack the neighboring kingdom. This plan worked. And Liu Bang's advisors weren't mistaken: Han Xin managed to defeat kingdom after kingdom even though his troops were often outnumbered and very inexperienced. And victories were often due to his well-thought-out plans. A good example is the Battle of Jingxing in 205 BC, where he made clever use of the terrain and applied psychological tricks to decisively win with a small militia army outnumbered seven to one.

After having conquered the entirety of Western and Northern China, even Xiang Yu, for whom Han Xin had fought some years before, was impressed and, at the same time, alarmed by Han Xin's success. He offered Han Xin to leave him Northern China if, in return, he joined him in his fight against Liu Bang. Han Xin, however, declined and stayed with Liu Bang.

He marched southwards to assist Liu Bang, who had fought unsuccessfully against Xiang Yu. Quite the opposite, actually; despite his greater forces, Liu Bang had suffered heavy defeats against Xiang Yu and his war veterans. Han Xin, though, didn't make the mistake of believing he was in an advantageous position because of his army's greater numbers. He instead carried out small ambushes on Xiang Yu's army, which was exhausted from the long conflict. And at the Battle of Gaixia in 202 BC, he led Xiang Yu into a canyon and, in combination with more psychological tricks, eventually defeated the thought-to-be invincible Xiang Yu. Following this victory, Liu Bang founded the Han dynasty, and Han Xin was celebrated as a hero.

Unfortunately, his story doesn't have a good ending, as only a few years later, Liu Bang started to fear Han Xin's brilliance and influence, accused him of rebellion, and assassinated him.

But Han Xin's legacy stayed. While Xiang Yu might have known how to win battles, Han Xin knew how to win wars, proving the importance of strategy over pure fighting skill. In his entire career as a general, Han Xin never lost a battle, helped found the longest-lasting dynasty in Chinese history, and entered history books as the single greatest general of his era.  

 

And two of his most important battles:

Battle of Jingxing: https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/117

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The Battle of Jingxing was fought in 205 BC between forces of the Han kingdom and those of the Zhao. The Han numbered 30,000 and were commanded by Han Xin. The Zhao led by commander Chen Xu were, with their 200,000 men, not only numerically superior but also, since the Han army consisted entirely of peasant militia, more experienced. This was because Han Xin, the Han commander, had been obligated to send his best man to his warlord.

The two armies faced each other in the Jingxing Pass, leading across the Taihang Mountains and into the Zhao kingdom. Because this narrow pass was perfectly suited for an ambush, Han Xin was very cautious about entering it and did so only after careful scouting. And the Zhao were indeed not planning an ambush; they held their higher manpower alone for a big enough advantage. Instead, they camped outside the pass, waiting for the Han.

In the night before the confrontation, Han Xin ordered 2,000 light cavalry carrying many more flags than customary to hide in the mountains behind the Zhao camp.

On the next day, Han Xin led his remaining army over the river that was crossing the pass, letting them build temporary fortifications. He then took 20,000 of his soldiers, advanced to the open plains, and attacked the Zhao. After some not being able to break through, Han Xin coordinated a slow retreat to the river where the fortifications had been built. The Zhao obviously pursued the Han, and upon arriving at the river, were met with the 10,000 fresh Han soldiers. Han Xin let his 20,000 rest and then rejoined the fight.

The Han were now in what seemed like a fatal position. They faced an overwhelmingly larger force and had their retreat cut off by the river. However, this was part of Han Xin's plan, as in his eyes, the biggest weakness of an inexperienced soldier was his cowardly thoughts of running away. Han Xin shouted something like, “There is no way back; you will only die if you don't fight bravely”. This gave the Han troops a huge morale boost, and together with their fortifications and the fact that they couldn't be flanked in the narrow pass, they were able to hold off the attacking Zhao.

The Zhao had uncarefully drawn many reinforcements from their camp and left it very poorly guarded. Seeing the vulnerable camp, the 2,000 cavalry who hid in the mountains now struck, meeting little resistance. They took over the camp and raised their many Han flags.

In the meantime, the Zhao's attacks on the Han remained unsuccessful, however, nothing was lost for them (yet). Their commander, Chen Yu, decided to return with his exhausted troops to the camp and continue fighting the next day. As they got closer to the camp, they realised it had been taken over by the Han and believed their king, who had been in the camp, to be captured or dead. And the many flags gave the appearance of a much greater number of soldiers occupying the camp than there actually were. Although still being multiple times more mem, the Zhao panicked. Seeing them disorganized, the Han charged from both sides, the river and the camp, on the Zhao, who were still stuck in the pass. The Zhao army got scattered and decisively defeated.

The Battle of Jingxing turned out to be a prime example of the Han general Han Xin's strategic genius.

 

And the Battle of Gaixia: https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/116

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The Battle of Gaixia took place in 202 BC and was an event that determined the course of Chinese history. It was fought over the entirety of China between Han forces led by Liu Bang and Chu forces led by Xiang Yu.

At the time of this battle, the war between the Han and Chu had been going on for years. And it had not been going badly for the Chu and Xiang Yu. Despite his numerically smaller armies, he had been able to push back the Han. However, because Liu Bang's generals had come to help and threatened to encircle him, he was forced to withdraw to the Chu capital. The most significant of these generals was Han Xin.

Han Xin's men were continously attacking the retreating Chu army's supply lines and carrying out small ambushes. This exhausted the Chu and lowered their fighting ability. And the Han managed to capture Xiang Yu's own wife and bring her to the canyon of Gaixia. Even though Xiang Yu was well aware that this was a trap, he was so desperate to save his wife that after sending a large portion of his troops to defend the capital, he attempted to free his wife himself with the remaining 100,000 men.

But once the Chu and Xiang Yu had entered the canyon, the Han struck. What happened was later described as an “ambush from ten sides”. In the end, even though Xiang Yu had managed to free his wife, he had lost almost his entire army and was now stuck in the canyon. At night, the Han played Chu folk songs, which was what ultimately broke the last Chu soldiers' morale. They, including Xiang Yu, thought their capital had already been taken and defeat was now unavoidable. Many of his soldiers deserted. And it got even worse for Xiang Yu: his wife, feeling responsible for the defeat, took her own life in front of Xiang Yu's eyes.

And it was in this hopeless situation that Xiang Yu wrote down the following verses, known as the Song of Gaixia:

 

“My strength plucked up the hills,

My might shadowed the world,

But the times were against me,

And Zhui [his beloved horse] runs no more,

When Zhui runs no more,

What then can I do?

Ah, Yu [his wife], my Yu,

What will your fate be?”

 

The next day, Xiang Yu was even able to break through and flee; however, he was pursued and eventually took his own life.

This battle sealed the Han victory and led to the foundation of the Han dynasty.

 

[ShadowOfHassen]

OK, here's a small PR with mixins and a few other tweaks for the encyclopedia

https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/118

 

 

So, me and @Vantha have been talking, and we want to start adding what we have already written into mainline. We don't have a text for everything yet, but we've almost finished the Han dynasty, and we think 3 civs + a ton of other articles is enough to implement. Also, this will make it easier going on because, the developers haven't stopped balancing the game while we work and already the data files that are in the encyclopedia repository are different from the ones in mainstream.

We can wait longer if the dev team is really busy, but we think it's time to add it.

In order to do so, can I just use the 0 A.D. GitHub mirror here? https://github.com/0ad/0ad I already know how to use GitHub, and it'd be easier than figuring out phabricator. If it's easier to use phabricator I can use it, but someone might have to answer a few questions.

Two more things: First, it would be great if we could move our sources also to mainstream so we don't have to juggle things in 2 different repositories. Maybe put them in /doc?

Second: When the encyclopedia gets merged, it would be great if any changes to the encyclopedia be run past either me or @Vantha. Like projects have for code, with the articles, we have a certain style we're going for, and a bar of quality we'd like to make sure is met.

 

Edited February 3 by ShadowOfHassen

[Vantha]

As @ShadowOfHassensaid, it'd be great if we could start merging what we already have. Is there someone who can explain when and where to do that?

Pr for Wei Qing:

https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/pull/119

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Wei Qin's early childhood was unfortunately not a happy one. He was born into a poor slave family and heavily mistreated and abused by his father. So much so, in fact, that at the age of only around ten, he couldn't stand it anymore and left. Wei Qing eventually found his biological mother at the palace of Princess Pingyang and started working there. And this time luck was on his side: when Emperor Wu himself once visited the palace, he was impressed by Wei Qing's half-sister, Wei Zifu, and decided to take her to his imperial palace as a concubine. Wei Qing, as her brother, was taken there as well and got employed as a palace guard. However, for this lucky twist of fate, he almost paid the full price: when Wei Zifu got pregnant with the emperor's first son, the empress got jealous. And for being her brother, Wei Qing was kidnapped and almost beaten to death if it weren't for his friends to come just in time for rescue. It wasn't all bad, though. As punishment for this crime, Emperor Wu promoted Wei Qing and Wei Zifu.

At the time, the Xiognu, a nomadic horse people inhabiting the regions north of the Han empire, were continuously raiding border regions. At this point, the Han had for decades been sending tribute payments to make peace, which, however, still didn't stop the Xiognu from pillaging. Emperor Wu decided to finally put an end to this humiliation. He tasked four generals with small cavalry armies to attack the Xiognu. Three of those were highly reputable generals. The fourth one, however, was not. And he was of a familiar name: Wei Qing.

And the results of the campaigns were surprising, to say the least: The three generals either suffered heavy losses or failed to engage in battle with the enemy entirely. Wei Qing, however, against all expectations, was very successful and managed to plunder the Xiognu's sacred location.

Following this victory, Wei Qing conducted several more campaigns against the Xiognu in the next five to ten years. Even though the Xiognu, because of their nomadic lifestyle, were extremely difficult to fight, many of his expeditions conclusively succeeded. His army often killed tens of thousands of Xiognu soldiers, took a similar number of captives, and seized millions of cattle. And despite originating from such destitute backgrounds, Wei Qing was not even his family's only talented general. Huo Quibing, his nephew, accomplished similar. The two eventually managed to defeat the seemingly invincible enemy. The duo was celebrated as national heroes and was granted many honorary titles. Wei Qing even married Princess Pingyang, at whose palace he had served a few years prior. And his sister, Wei Zifu, was made empress by emperor Wu. And despite his great reputation and success, Wei Qing was said to remain a humble, calm, and prudent man. What was less humble was his grave, as he was buried in the giant Maoling Mausoleum along none other than Emperor Wu himself.

 

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[ShadowOfHassen]

Last text for Han, the overview: https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/compare/main...han_overview?expand=1

I really don't know who to ask about getting the encyclopedia in mainstream. @Stan` I know you're leaving, but could you tell me who I should ask?

[Lion.Kanzen]

1 hour ago, ShadowOfHassen said:

Last text for Han, the overview: https://github.com/TheShadowOfHassen/0-ad-history-encyclopedia-mod/compare/main...han_overview?expand=1

I really don't know who to ask about getting the encyclopedia in mainstream. @Stan` I know you're leaving, but could you tell me who I should ask?

@wowgetoffyourcellphone

[Vantha]

Hey everyone,

For the past week and a half or so I've been working on implementing an encyclopedia page orientating towards the concept shown by @wowgetoffyourcellphone. And the framework is done. Here's a short showcase:

 

And yes, I am aware that it is incredibly ugly. I wanted to get everything to work first and then focus on aesthetics.

I moved all texts to new JSON files with a script, and the engine is retrieving the texts from there. I did this because JSONs are easier to read and also provide more flexibilty for adding new features like different formattings, subheadings, or inline links.

There are also some elements I'd personally like still missing, for example the portraits, but they are on my to-do list.

If anyone has a suggestions, for example on how to cramp the many buttons into the small space in the left panel, definetely let me know.

Btw, applause to all developers of 0ad's engine. It seemed very overwhelming at first but it is very easy to learn how to use. Very well done!

P.S. no pressure on anyone of course, but (and I know we've asked this a few times already) how can we get to merging into the mainline? Or is it a bad time for that right now?

[real_tabasco_sauce]

52 minutes ago, Vantha said:

If anyone has a suggestions, for example on how to cramp the many buttons into the small space in the left panel, definitely let me know.

I wonder if you could use the in game icons for these buttons instead of text? It might look good to instead use the top right area for each category's entries.

Edited February 6 by real_tabasco_sauce

[ShadowOfHassen]

55 minutes ago, Vantha said:

Hey everyone,

For the past week and a half or so I've been working on implementing an encyclopedia page orientating towards the concept shown by @wowgetoffyourcellphone. And the framework is done. Here's a short showcase:

And yes, I am aware that it is incredibly ugly. I wanted to get everything to work first and then focus on aesthetics.

I moved all texts to new JSON files with a script, and the engine is retrieving the texts from there. I did this because JSONs are easier to read and also provide more flexibilty for adding new features like different formattings, subheadings, or inline links.

There are also some elements I'd personally like still missing, for example the portraits, but they are on my to-do list.

If anyone has a suggestions, for example on how to cramp the many buttons into the small space in the left panel, definetely let me know.

Btw, applause to all developers of 0ad's engine. It seemed very overwhelming at first but it is very easy to learn how to use. Very well done!

P.S. no pressure on anyone of course, but (and I know we've asked this a few times already) how can we get to merging into the mainline? Or is it a bad time for that right now?

Wow! Really, Wow. It's not done, but you're half way done. Amazing work, @Vantha. Were we planning on using this to replace the old in game encyclopedia UI as well?

Seeing how close you are, it might be better, though, to wait until this has inline images and formatting, then we can go over the articles to add the features, in one go.

Another thought is it might be cool to throw that up on a GitHub repo in case there are others that want to pitch in, or just want to test.