AK_Thug AMish
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well, it started up again (I'm using Mozilla now, so it can't be IE!) I'll find my XP disk and try to get to the bottom of this problem!
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, and Governator sang
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yeah, I have heard that mainstream Christian fundamentalism is pretty unique to the USA, but of course there are groups around the world. *note: fundamentalism is still a minority, albeit a large one, and is almost non-existant outside of south.
I was listening to Rush again today, and he was saying that marriage is defined as male-female for thousands of years. I guess defined the same way as slavery! Hey, but that's a different issue entirely
I wonder what he would think of a Belgium-like system, where marriage can still be marriage, and gays can still get rights. Seems like a win-win to me.
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hmm... sorry, but I didn't know having the same idea was plagerism
adam: What is Judicial Activism?
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yes, and remember judges still _DO_ make laws, this has always been the case (no pun intended) since our gov't is partially based on Common Law.
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well to tie gun control back to the topic...
There are two main points of confusion when dealing with Constitutional aspects of gun control,
1) The wording is ambiguous
2) The situation was much different back then
On a different note, no one has yet convinced me that the Constitution is based mainly on religion. Remember, the God of the enlightment was much different than most people's definition of God today (although no one can really agree who or what God is). Natural Law transcended human institutions, but not necessarly because of a deity. Some philosophers at the time (like Locke I believe) attributed this to how Natural Law is derived: through Reason.
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yes good job! I see you listen to soft rock stations!
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knew better he
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of course adam! When I was working at the JCU library I read many books during breaks, some of them including gun control. Most of the gun control books there were more conservative, so I just want to see the 'liberal' side, if that's what you want to call it. Anyways, thats a bit off topic
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Here are some points that I've heard on various conservative talk shows (Rush limbaugh and Chris Savage):
If we allow gay marriage, then what is stopping us from allowing incest or polygamy? Aka the "slippery slope"This is one of the few times talk show hosts acknowledge a logical fallacy (really), but they fail to make the connection between gay marriage -> incest. Polygamy is a different issue entirely. Incest is bad because their children have a much, much higher chance of various genitic disorders, which gay couples obviously don't do.
Gay Marriage violates the sactity of marriage.I also hear a lot on the 'sactity' or sacrosanct nature of marriage. If it is sacred, how can anything but religion maintain it? What is marriage to some is not to others. Ex: Fundie Jews cannot 'marry' non-Jews, divorce is not allowed by some interpretations of the Bible, polygamy is allowed in other religions, etc...
A last point:
Activists Judges!A hatred of many far-right conservatives are the 'activist judges'. But what is an activist judge? Somehow, Moore (the 10 commandment judge in Alabama) is not one
. More on this later, if it becomes an issue. Anyways, to conclude, I'll repeat my solution: allow 'civil unions' for everyone, and 'marriage' can go back to where it belongs: in churches. I'd like to hear some comments on my line of though here
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rom a University of Houston Study:
the study was on 15,000 works by the founding fathers and took 10 years......they found 3,154 quotes that the founding fathers used....here is their findings on them:
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when they took a closer look, they found:
94% were either a direct OR indirect quote from the Bible
ah I misread your post! But the point still remains, our government was founded on the Constitution, not their 15,000 other works (that's quite a lot for <100 men, here's a list I quickly found). Doing the math in my head, thats is 1,500 'works' per man, although I don't know what a 'work' is defined as. 90% is close to roughly 1,350 works devoted totally to indirect Bible quotes (or of course 1,500 works devoted 90% to Bible quotes). Somehow, I am a bit skeptical of that data.
Here is what I think is not important:
-The religion of individual founders (most of them weren't important anyways)
-The other works of the founders, for those documents obviously did not 'found' the USA
What is important:
-What is in the Constitution
If you think religion is in the Constitution, you have the burden of truth to prove it
As for gun control, I still want to see "Bowling for Columbine", just to hear an alternative viewpoint. With gun control debates inevitably comes conflicting statistics though, which makes it very confusing.
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alright then, no wonder I didn't remember the name.
What one-hit wonder sang 'Walking in Memphis' and won a grammy for it?
PS: Its my uncle so you better know it!
*edit to change Q
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well, I still fail to see where in the Bible one can find separation of powers (three branches of gov't), voting, right to a speedy trail (or anything else on the Bill of Rights), having no religious test imposed on public offices, etc. I would like to see examples of all of these quotes, and seeing nine out of ten sentences in the Constitution have to be indirect quotes for your statement to be true, there are a lot
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connery, moore, dalton, brosnan; so four, but maybe I missed one so five.
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indeed I wonder what classified as an 'indirect' quote! They should have made it easier on folks like me and referrence the chapters.
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Although one strange winter doesn't mean global warming, it's hard to deny that it's happening. We didn't even have snow stick until around January... I remembered it rained on Christmas eve this year
Short-sightedness is a problem, especially in this country. The fact of the matter is that it is not popular for polititions to acknowledge problems like this, that's how it has always been going back to the isolationist times. As George Carlin (an enlightened political commentator indeed
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ok, no one likes to get off topic
now, does anyone still believe that the 10 Commandments are in the Constitution? Or another good question, what do you think influenced the Constitution? I think it was a few things, British Common law, Montesquieu, Locke, and maybe a little classical Greek.
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I don't know if this has been done here before, but try this for fun!
Make you own Fanta Shokata clip and post the link here. Here's where you can start: Fanta Shokata
My clip: Deodorent
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actually, the Bush administration (Jeb Bush that is), made sure that literally thousands of legal voters (mainly minorities, odd) could not vote.
Florida's flawed "voter-cleansing" program
You could say it wasn't fair for Pat Buchanan in 2000 however much you want, but he wasn't the best candidate.What is your point? Buchanan wasn't elected because voters didn't think he was the best candidate. What is the point of an extra step in elections?
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Elections are not supposed to be fair? What is this, pre-war Iraq?
The whole point of any election is for the people to have their vote directly infuencing the gov't. Now this isn't always good, so that's why we have a judicial system who aren't elected. Checks and balances. What I think would be fair is if states split up their vote. So, in 2000 Ohio was somewhere around 40%-ish for Gore and 55%-ish for Bush, but Bush got all 21 electoral votes. Also, Nader got a few million votes, but not one electoral vote. I think the whole electoral system is too old... designed for the stupid masses of the 1700's. (OK so I don't have much confidence in today's masses, but still times have changed)
*Nader announced that he's running!
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the electoral system has to go... if 49% percent of a state's vote goes to candidate A and 51% to candidate B, candidate B gets 100% of the state's vote. How exactly is that fair?
Anyways, I think Kerry has a chance, but who knows at this point! If Osama is found, Bush wins hands down.
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Hopefully American's will adapt to the upcoming rise in oil prices. Terrorism certainly is a new threat, not so much in life (3,000 sep 11, 60,000 died in vietnam), but in civil liberties. I'm not gonna put a date on anything
What worries me the most is the large, growing fundamentalist movement, especially down south. They are starting to throw their weight around in politics, too.
Economically, watch out for China.
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I'll keep that file restore in mind, but for now the key is working again. It just spontaineously started again
Hopefully it'll not give out again...
Same-sex Marriage Bill
in Hall of Intellectuals
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Public Statement #1: I apologize for any plagerism, although I am still hesitent believing such broad defintions of plagerism merit such. If any damage was done, I'm sorry. B-) Back on subject now!