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Thanks, yes I'd love that. The olive tree actor was too large and not the most beautiful and I didn't find a fitting one. Shrinking an aleppo pine is a nice idea, they look "gnarled" to represent an old tree. Also I'd prefer the smaller cypresses of the randomly chosen ones, but that's not too important. For future purposes, what are the best settings for ambient occlusion baking? I baked on a 2048x2048 image with an island margin of 0.004. I excluded the nature props. It gave me some artifacts on the smallest faces of the statues, propably because resolution is so low that a single pixel is bigger than a face on the ao uv map. What would you think could be a purpose of the building? Another wonder or special building for athenians?

Maybe someone would like to make a model with MakeHuman.

Thanks. From an artistical point of view, filling a boat with props isn't that difficult, all models are existing already. I'm not sure how to display it in a bog though.

So maybe a wonder could look something like that? Do you have further references? without the heap:

Not sure, that mesh looks like there's a lot of sculpting left to be done, especially at the arms

the destroyed army camp looks like a placeholder to me

Sure, here you go 942182649_erechtheion0_28.2.zip

Could we make a wonder for the germanic tribes out of these assets too? As far as I know they had some kind of burial mound too and the cimbri are still missing one

Erechtheion and carytids from the acropolis in athens https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erechtheion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caryatid https://www.artstation.com/artwork/lxY91a 1228892164_erechtheion0_28.1.zip licence

(I deleted what you are quoting before you commented.) I added these two babas because of a misunderstanding and I'm not insisting on keeping them. I asked to add a stone baba here and I interpreted your answer here as an approval, I guess because I thought stone baba are just the female sitting ones, not the male standing ones (I guess because "baba" in slavic languages refers to a female person). So no reason for hard feelings. So if you think they are ahistorical and others agree to get them out, no problem.

True. I was afraid it wouldn't look "wonderly" enough Maybe in this case elevate the gravel base a bit?

As I said, I started this over a year ago, so when I took it back up, I might have forgotten details about earlier discussions. As far as what I remember, although these stone babas aren't necessarily scythians, the scythians had similar ones too, so I figured if there's not much artistic difference, we could use a HP model from later times. Sculpting is a ton of work, so if there is an existing similar model, it's always welcome, even if it's not 100 % accurate. What about the other sitting baba, is it also historically wrong? Anyway, I spent a lot of time to recreate the other steles you suggested here: https://wildfiregames.com/forum/topic/20550-civ-scythians/?do=findComment&comment=561420 I'm open for references and historical advice

Hi all, I finally want to share the results of a project I've been working on for some time and abandoned several times in between. So here it is, the royal kurgan, a burial mound for a wonder for the scythians. Two main difficulties: (1) somehow make look interesting, what in references is just a bare hill and make it look built by humans (2) let an organic building blend in with the surrounding topography. Concerning (1): It might look too busy, there might be better options for prop placement, player color is difficult to add, maybe too many different/ not fitting stone colours, maybe add flora? Concerning (2): The underground part consumes a lot of tris, but the gravel stones blend in nicely with the ground also on uneven terrain. I don't know if it goes deep enough though. Further references: Some CC0 models I used: Feel free to test from the zip I added and let me know. I also added 7 different steles and two stone heaps of different sizes: This is how it would look without the reddish stones: What is left to do: Choosing the final layout; maybe some colour adjustments; deleting all those hidden faces from the stones on the inside, tthen bake ao; checking on naming conventions, actor files and materials. Also the foundation is just prototype. Edit: I played around with the colours a little bit, turns out that adding some warmth to the gravel base helps a lot, so the contrast between the grey and the reddish stones isn't that harsh. @wowgetoffyourcellphone do you think you could work from here? My skills with colours and picture editing are very limited. 862891456_kurgan0_28.1.zip

the scythians are meant to have one too, though it's ahistorical, but the art is still missing lol, never realized it looked like a volcano. There is an entrance under it, with a sacrificial place inside, where the fire is burning. I used this model as hp: https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/anta-grande-do-zambujeiro-5f328a5d7cdd4f96b9a4dcacb426348e I can get rid of the fire and add a stone that covers it so it looks more like a cave. What would you think? And I'm also planning to darken it. The original model as bad lightning from the sun in it. It's an attempt to deal with the problem that there are not really many possible props. Otherwise it would be just a plain hill and look kinda naked. The positioning is of the steles and the props is definitely up for discussion. I'm not saying I'm completely happy with it. Same with the colors. The other major problem with this task was the part where the mesh touches the surrounding topography. It's an organic building, so it can't just have a foundation. That's why I decided to go with gravel stones around the base. They will look cleaner in the final version.

nice work, I have a completed a kurgan wonder in the meantime, that I can share with you soon

does it solve your problem if you do it?

Did you use Ctrl - A -> Apply all transforms before exporting?

Did you export both the prop points and the mesh as .dae? Select the prop points first, then the mesh and export. I'm on my mobile so I can't check the file :/

i guess it should have an underscore, so prop_oar_1

Alright, I'll just leave like that, maybe someone wants to pick it up in the future :) I'm not sure I could do it myself

ok nice cool, i didn't know. If there's a wish to implement roman standard bearers (Signifer, Aquilifer or vexillarius) I would be happy to make meshes with less tris. Here are some references

np, thanks for your answer. Primarily use I designed it for was as formation banner like in this picture, so once for every formation. Secondary use could be for a standard bearer. There are two carnyx (the trumpets) for the gaul trumpeter, which both have around 1.500 tris, so I figured to aim for a similar polycount. Don't get what you mean with the last sentence?

cool stuff, a lot of nice references at the end. The museum is close to where I am from. I'm thinking about modelling a draco standard according to the one they found there. It's roman, maybe too late for 0 AD timeframe, but possible to use it for persians or scythians? Further references for other civs are very welcome

Hey, thanks! Yeah, polycount is higher than the carthagian actor, which was basically 2d. The first three standards have 1.5 to 1.9 k tris, the last one only 800 tris. The most consuming are the items on top (eagle 1.5k, hand and wolf each 900 tris). I tried saving geometry where I could and baked a lot to normals, maybe the eagle could spare some tris though. But I think all in all it's not unreasonable high, or is it? Btw everything is baked on one texture. Anybody who wants could easily combine the parts to make more or different standards for variety or ones with less geometry.

Hi all, right now all civilizations use a carthagian actor for formations, though especially the romans had their own, very unique standards, e.g. Aquila (eagle), Signum and Vexillum. I put together 4 standards, which I'm adding as a mod here. Alpha for player colour still needs to be added. @wowgetoffyourcellphone @Stan` @real_tabasco_sauce maybe someone could take a look on it and make a PR? we could also put together a standard bearer unit, similar to the gaul trumpeter, as a scenario unit or upgradable legionary in vanilla? They used to be called "Aquilifier" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquilifer) or "Signifier" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signifer). references: wikipedia links: standards.zip