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There are two Greeks. No surprises, he did lose!

Barracks up, usually forward. The WarChiefs civs in AOE3 are really fun in deathmatch, I recently discovered.

Beli, you will see an example of balance between Indians and Europeans in AOE3: WarChiefs. There are some fantasy elements, but it's MUCH more accurate than the Aztecs and Mayas in AOC, and they seem pretty balanced. Furthermore, they make for more interesting and unique gameplay. For our first unit, I think we should make an Inca unit, since they are overlooked in many other games.

Heheheh. Seems like you already revealed it. http://www.wildfiregames.com/0ad/album_page.php?pic_id=8856

I think we should have some natives as full civs (like the Inca), and others as mercenaries, or tribes ala AOE3. I was thinking that the first installment could probably be based around South America/MesoAmerica. Maybe we could exchange Britain for the Tupi, and the Ottomans for a colonist country (they can appear in the next one with the French, British, Iroquois, Cherokee etc.). That could be a middle installment. The final one could have the Sioux, Apache, USA, Mexico as well as some South American countries.

I can't remember if you're allowed to reveal this or not, but what is the other Hellenic city-state super-unit (other than the Spartiate)?

Great posts, Abadu! I suppose we should figure out the confirmed amount of civilizations possible. I guess we could start out with few and release expansions overtime. I think we should start off with Spain France Nederlands Britain Ottomans Inca Portuguese Taino and advance it overtime.

Hooray!

Multiplayer, of course. But I always play a campaign before diving into it.

I can't wait to see this. I love Sacha Baron Cohen - I used to watch Ali G all the time.

No problem, Leonidas... I thought that was obvious! I would offer a position to Mythos, though it seems he'd sooner start up an Athenian clan... we can be rivals.

I'd like to know a bit more about how the Hellenes and Celts are divided, because right now I can't really grasp it without thinking of them as seperate civilizations. Do they start as one, and then somehow can be upgraded to either choice?

Excellent, another aboard the Hellenes ship. And another to join Locky and I's Spartan clan once the game is released.

Sounds good. I just have something against Orlando Bloom.

This movie is going to be much better than both Alexander and Kingdom of Heaven, at least I hope it is. The comic is great, that's the whole reason I want to see it. Any Frank Miller is welcome on the big screen.

I told you, you happy now? (also we should make a Spartan clan when the game is released)

I know the Klamath wore and likely still wear a variety of unique hats. Also the AOE3 War Chiefs history section on the Klamath Rifleman unit describes how the Klamath held off against invaders longer than most natives by using a variety of European weapons, such as muskets and rifles. They seemed to wear quite heavy/warm clothing typically. Here are some ideas we can get with making their soldiers look distinctive and accurate: This site shows numerous Cree people. It does show a little clothing - http://www.axel-jacob.de/cree_foto.html This is the AOE3 representation of the Cree, seems quite accurate judging by neighbouring tribes. This picture shows Ojibway and Shawnee warriors and a Cree woman: The Ojibway soldier seems to wear a similar costume to the Crees. As for the Cherokee, as you know they became a very European nation, partly for good, partly for bad. Here's an image of a rifleman in traditional gear: Finally, this site has some useful Taino images: http://www.presenciataina1.org/ And apparently, unlike as the Spanish have been saying for years, the Taino aren't an extinct race.

Hiya Locky, 's Racer X here.

Not necessarily, you've got an odd 160 years of Pharaonic Egypt in the timeline, even if it wasn't necessarily at it's peak. In any case, the Ptolemaics wouldn't play much differently from Hellenistic period Hellenes, and wouldn't be a particularly worthwhile addition to the game, but the Egyptians would be awesome for a bronze age era game. Aren't the Egyptians in like every other ancient RTS anyway?

I would suggest "Mabobo Clubman" over "Ironwood Clubman", since the mabobo(sp?) is the name of the club that the South American tribes wielded. Don't know why Ensemble gave them the other name. I didn't know much about Tupi armies, but they look really cool. Other American Indian civ ideas not yet covered: - Apache - Crow - Cherokee - Klamath - Cree - Aymara - Taino - Huron - Algonquin - Pawnee In my opinion it should be balanced between the two continents. I think one or two Mesoamerican (technically north American) civs is okay, Maya and Aztec one would assume. Desired North American civs: - Iroquois - Cherokee - Crow - Sioux - Apache South American civs: - Inca - Mapuche - Taino - Tupi - Aymara I know that is 12 civs all and all. That's the problem, narrowing them down...

Hey, don't buff up the graphics too much... I don't want to have to buy two new graphics cards before seeing the product in all it's intended glory.

Ouch. Once I dropped a surprisingly sharp fork on my foot. Didn't notice anything had happened until I looked down, and my once white sock was blood red all over. So I can understand her pain. Though to my knowledge, Peltasts never threw forks.

In the game, I'm sure there will be effective ways to make the units look unique, such as body paint. It's certainly working in AOE3: WarChiefs, I'm sure they can appear distinguished in-game. Impressive display of natives there, especially the Inuit and Hawaiians.

Those names aren't definite, just descriptions of the soldier. I disagree that the chief should be a rifleman. Iroquois chiefs had capes over their right shoulders, like the one in the picture I posted. The sprite you posted just looks like a regular Great Lakes soldier to me, not even necessarily Iroquois. The Inca also did not have horizontal feather headdresses like the ones pictured in those sprites, they actually had front-to back ones or none at all, if I remember right.

Hope you don't mind, I'm going to post some Iroquois units. Rifleman with Club (original tomahawk) Chief Aenna Tomahawk Clubman Tomahawk Axeman Female villager; False face society Shaman; male villager/late period soldier Allied spearman Cavalry rifleman Cavalry Clubman (would be better with a tomahawk club like the ones in other picturess) Mantlet Ram