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thank you @Akentas for refining and adding some thoughts. I also think these ingame moderators should follow a clear and published Code of Conduct. And if they abuse power, there privileges should be withdrawn of course. The sanctions should have a clear response to given escalation level. first mute.... then timeout and so on ... bans only for repeated misbehaviour.

Yes agreed. i can modify your idea... 1. More in game moderators pick from the regular players who spends a lot of time in the game, this way most of the time there will be someone who is playing and observing if anything bad happening. 2. They should have the power to mute form lobby, give TIMEOUT like short time 'ban' from the lobby to abusive or toxic players or alt fake accounts. But before doing that, they should always take screen shots for justification and post them in a moderator group chat. This way bias decisions or power abuse will not happen.

i get the impression ... that without a real sanction system that works, there will not be a solution. There will always be impolite people with bad manners, toxic behaviour and threats. I like your initiative @Seleucids to call on the responsibility and morale of the players but you directly got an example in here, that this call is unfortunately maybe not working ... and i fear it won't work the game. Why? Because there is no sanction on beeing mean in the game. The maximum you get for being very offensive and unacceptable so far, is maybe a discussion on a discord server or the forums, in which the offender can make himself be seen as the victim again and so forth .. it is basically just tiring. We have 4 different chat levels in the game (main lobby, game lobby, game chat and spec chat), and the moderators only observe the main lobby. So when something bad is happening there, sometimes they react, if certain language is used, they will be removed automatically by the modbot. That is just not enough, dear community I would really like to discuss about this topic, because recently many really bad examples took place, that again lead to someone quit playing the game after beeing insulted/threatened verbally. With all the blablablamegame fllow up. I want to start to throw some thoughts in .... What about if two handfull of trusted people (elected by the moderators or so) who are often around and actively playing are given admin rights and the privileges to kick or ban people based on the rules of the game from any of the aforementioned levels. So sanctions are immediate and directly implemented. No time lag, no discussions, no blame game .... just kick/ban, end of the story. I am quite sure, that offenses and toxicity would drop significantly. And this would help the game on the long run. Please add some ideas ... and @Seleucids, if you think this discussion should not be takin part here, then i can also open a new thread. I don't want to say that it is useless, to call for responsibility and raise awareness... i just doubt that this is enough!

imagine mods aren't online rn or else

@feneur @Stan`pls ban the bot accounts

This is not eric @Seleucids . i just talked with him in game.

the real eric is only slightly less toxic and more homophobic

I'm diagonalo ...

Ok, so this is already one case raised by diagonalo against Akentas but was unfortunately locked. Now you can explain your story in another open thread. Btw Eric, if I remember correctly, you also host a lot of TG and you did get along with Akentas? What happened between you?

but then also let other people host games

@Seleucids look at his responses not only in lobby but also in the thread beating about the bush when he decided in an instant to just ban me forever for fun or because he is a bully. HE CAN BAN WHOEVER HE WANTS

You can create a new topic to explain to us what Akentas did wrong. We do want to hear from you too. This particular thread is not the place for this discussion and the posts don't make much sense to us.

@Seleucids I see your point but in my mind you are giving Akentas platform to reaffirm things that really require no explaination with exactly 0 effort and stab me in the back whilst he is at it. literally he only reported me because he saw I was having fun in other peoples games so I get muted from lobby

YOU INSTEAD HOST GAMES ALL DAY EVERY DAY EVERY SINGLE TIME WHEN THERE COULD POSSIBLE A TG NOT HOSTED BY YOU IN ORDER TO CENTRALIZE AND EXCLUDE LITERALLY DONT PLAY THE VICTIM LIKE I WOULD CREATE ALTS AND HARRASS YOU IN YOUR OWN GAME IF YOU DIDNT BECAUSE YOU COULDNT BAN ME THAT IS AGAIN JUST VICTIM BLAMING JUST TRHWOING THAT PREEMPTIVLEY OUT THERE

erictommy01, please read the title of the thread again. You are doing exactly what we don't want. Now, I don't fully understand the context behind all this, but please stop this spam or this thread will get locked. I don't want it to be locked. Please go vent somewhere else. Start a separate topic

@Dunedan @Seleucids please read these replies both mine and his. Btw this is not Eric, reading the replies you guess who it is impersonating. And instead of hollow accusations, lies, show me proof, if I have done or said anything bad or wronged anyone, I will apologize for my mistakes and face the consequences. I have zero intension of making someone quit, neither I have the power to do anything since I am just a normal player. All I want is to be left alone from all the harassment and threats. And enjoy this game with my friends in peace.

THIS IS DIFFERENT AND I AM BEING HONEST ABOUT MY FEEELING BECAUSE ANYTHING ELSE ENCOURGES YOUR TWISTED SENSE OF JUSTICE

Well said @Seleucids. Completely agree. I want to remind everyone the first message you see when you join the lobby everytime you log in: So, if anyone getting harrasssed, take screenshots and and follow these instructions. I have heard stories and faced it myself, people trying to play victim or changing the narrative after commiting an offense for their own agenda or sometimes may be for just some quick trolling and laugh. So, first of all, if you are facing something bad don't tackle it with firing back bad words, please don't give in to anger. Use in game settings like MUTE, KICK, BAN. Saying things bad back at harassment will muddy the situation more. BE THE BIGGER PERSON, have patience, document what's happening with Screenshots and then get in touch with the moderators.

I want to report myself for being the most toxic 0ad player alive.

To add to that: If you encounter toxicity or anything else which violates the Terms of Use of the multiplayer lobby, please notify one of the lobby moderators about it, so they can take action. That's best done by sending them a private message including details about the incident (screenshot, replays, ...) here in the forums. We can only act, if we are aware of such incidents.

Yes, that was my chief inspiration.

Please can I remind the lobby players to stay calm and take a moment to reflect on the current environment. Recently, we have observed some severe instances of toxicity and personal attacks in the lobby, especially in high level games. This is destructive to everyone. Despite being absent from the game lobby, I was able to detect the spillover aftermath. It’s becoming pretty clear that the sexual insults, heavy swearing, and targeting is putting new players off. When that kind of stuff happens, it signals that we aren't a welcoming or safe space - the already small player base shrinks further. Plus, we’re seeing a lot of unfounded claims about DDOS, exploits and market manipulation. Throwing these accusations around without proof just result in more disputes instead of solving anything. A few months ago, I introduced two of my real life colleague-friends to the game. To begin with, they really enjoyed the economy building part and cooperative strategies. However, as they started participating in high level games, the experience took a bad turn. Both of them encountered unwelcoming players, excessive swearing and long waiting times. One of them even reported being banned from a TG just because the host wanted an easy win. The other complained to me about severe sexual harassment as a part of trash talking while playing. I have also encountered all of these situations myself; it is very discomforting and discouraging to see offensive comments and accusations being thrown around as casual exchanges. Such behaviour not only damaged the image of the 0AD community but also made the real life relationship awkward between us. Some recent arguments even leaked out of the 0AD domain into my personal discord server. Let’s ensure that our discussions are respectful and contained within the appropriate space, even when we disagree. I have not posted any specific evidence here, as the goal is not to target any individual offender but to ensure that on a global level, for both new and OP players, they are able to enjoy their time, not feeling excluded or targeted. A safe space is also where privacy is protected - recording people's voice without consent and asking for their exact home address or other personal information are not appropriate. This brings us to the mindset of some OP players. We understand the drive for winning and balance. However, prioritising exclusivity over respect creates a hostile feedback loop that only reduces the talent pool and weakens the community over time. High-ranking members should lead by example, not by fostering a culture where toxicity is the default. This behavior signals that the community is unwelcoming and unsustainable. We also need to stop allowing sexual insults to define the lobby, and letting the desire for victory override basic decency. Thank you to all of you who are holding the line on respect, because your good behaviour is exactly what keeps 0AD an enjoyable game.

This could have a late Screw Press tech if you want that to improve its efficiency: J.P. Oleson in The Oxford Handbook of Engineering and Technology in the Classical World states that “the lever and screw press was in many respects an improvement using the mechanical advantage of the screw to apply greater pressure. Pliny the Elder (HN 18.317), writing in the A.D. 70s, mentions this as a Greek invention of the last 100 years (i.e., late first century B.C.)”. Of course technically the animation would have to change, but I think presently techs don’t do this (maybe eventually?).

Suggestion: call the aura Romanitas

All right, enough is enough. After I had to remove a few responses, I'm locking this thread now.