mod LocalRatings mod - evaluate players' skills based on previous games

[ffm2]

6 hours ago, RangerK said:

What do you guys think?

Seems sensible. I don't have too much time now and won't have so soon.

 

But I had a idea of using the game setup chat to share results. This way one can get faster to a bigger data base.

During the transmission one would spam the chat window one time with a big wall of text. So there may be some guard rails necessary against abuse, but then again any user can spam the chat.

So as I imagine it the broadcast would look something like this:
 

ffm: [LoacalRatings V0.28] Sharing my game results for team games:

Date Time (UTC+0) | Winnerteam | Loserteam

26.09.2026 20:00 | ffm(maur), a(iber), b(gaul), c(gaul) | d(gaul), e(gaul), f(gaul), g(gaul)

This data could then be separately saved and in doubt deleted if you believe someone gave false data or someone had weird settings.

Just as a sketch.

A downside could be that users snitch on other users how often they play, I don't know if that makes some uncomfortable. This data is already shared via the replays but to a smaller extend. I guess best would be not to share your gamer nick with your boss.

Edit: Actually this way whole replays could be transmitted. Don't know if one should. Maybe a new mod, share replays would be better. Host a game in the lobby for that purpose in the lobby, let some join that you want to share with and synchronize your data bases.

Edited September 26 by ffm2

[Stan`]

Is that something worth adding to replay pallas ?

[ffm2]

A direct way down and up to replay pallas would be the best in long term.

Up: In bulk and with some save rails (e.g. no games under 4 min., no special setups for test with unlimited resources).

Down: In bulk, also with conditions (of players where I lack replays).

The current zip way over the web interface is limited AFAIK in the number of games and the user would select these games by hand currently.

What I described here was more peer to peer and easier to mod. A "share replays mod" could look like this: In the lobby one could have a new button "share replays" next to the others (host game, join game). Instead of the normal game setup one would have the normal setup chat, no game/map setup, but conditions of the games one would like to share. E.g. 4vs4, 3vs3, over 4 minutes etc.. With mod setting "incompatible" and only buddys able to join. That way RangerK and I could sync our data bases without wfg beeing involved (except of the game displayed in the lobby).

Both would benefit the LocalRatings mod

Edited September 27 by ffm2

[Stan`]

One could vibe code a tool which automates that, behind replay pallas the api is public  

[RangerK]

(delete me - old message)

Edited October 15 by RangerK

[RangerK]

gui/gamesetup/Pages/GameSetupPage/Panels/Buttons/BalanceTeamsButton.js
gui/common/network~LocalRatings.js

Here's and update with small bug fixes and readbility impovements to my mod of @ffm's mod.

The general value of this mod is a quick, concise suggestion about whom to swap to improve the balance using the "/suggest" command.  For example:
 

CURRENT: 59%/41% Team 1 Stronger

SUGGESTIONS

aop <> rambo9: 50%/50% Even
or
Subzero57 <> Fuzzy_dcuk: 49%/51% Even

Read more in my previous post in this thread.

network~LocalRatings.js BalanceTeamsButton.js

[ffm2]

This update adds a new rating system and a few chat commands to the team balancer.

New rating system: “OpenSkill (results + statistics)”
The old system (OpenSkill) only counts wins and losses. The new one also uses three statistics from each player’s past games: resources spent, enemy units killed value and buildings lost value. In my 2026 games it picked the winner 66% of the time, against 60% for results only. Choose it under Options > Rating system. I watched the leader board and I agreed with this ranking way more.

Chat commands

• /balance: tries every team split and picks the one closest to 50/50, moving as few players as possible.
• /suggest: up to two single-player swaps that would make the current teams more even (3v3 and 4v4).
• /suggestteams: alternative team layouts (4v4).
• /evaluate: player rankings and an assessment of the current teams.
• /rate ffm 2000: rate ffm manually 2000 for that game and pairing only.
• /rebuild: re-rates all games, including newly downloaded ones.
• /about: information about the mod.

Typical use with Replay Pallas
Once everyone has joined your game setup, type /pallasandrebuild. It downloads up to 10 missing games for each player with few games (about a minute) and updates the ratings, so /balance already works. The remaining games then download in the background. If they change the balance by 5 points or more, you’re told to run /balance again.

Without that command, you can do the same by hand: /pallas, wait for the downloads, /rebuild, then /balance.

If you only want a small change instead of a full reshuffle, use /suggest.

RangerK's changes got merged.

LocalRatings_Teambalancer.zip

Edited 2 hours ago by ffm2