wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 17, 2020 Report Share Posted August 17, 2020 (edited) The Ptolemaic Egyptians Hellenized Egypt Above: Ptolemy I "Savior" (left), Ptolemy III "Benefactor" (right) Above: Ptolemy IV "Father Loving" (left), Cleopatra VII (right) Above: Egyptian Priest/Healer Above: Egyptian Citizens (left), Egyptian Slave Laborers (right) Above: Their Minimap Background emblem Spoiler For now, take a look at their new hero, Ptolemy III "Benefactor." He was an energetic ruler who attacked both the Macedonians and Seleucids, going so far as to conquer Babylon, Seleucia Piera, and Antioch. Under his reign Egypt reached its zenith in territorial control. Edited August 5, 2023 by wowgetoffyourcellphone 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alre Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 why is ptolemy iv "father loving", while cleopatra is "philopater"? btw I'm loving the 10-pack of the egyptian slave. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, alre said: why is ptolemy iv "father loving", while cleopatra is "philopater"? Yeah, so I felt it was a bit redundant to have two heroes in a row with the same epithet. I think "Philopater" loses something in the translation to English for sure ("Father Loving"), and is a bit awkward. Do you think "Father Honoring" sounds better? 4 hours ago, alre said: btw I'm loving the 10-pack of the egyptian slave. Yeah, AI. Whatyagonnado? The ancient and Renaissance sculptors sometimes added unrealistic musculature to their male figures, so I'll go with that. Edited August 6, 2023 by wowgetoffyourcellphone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alre Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 29 minutes ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: I think "Philopater" loses something in the translation to English for sure ("Father Loving"), and is a bit awkward. Do you think "Father Honoring" sounds better? honestly, I think father-loving sounds perfect, although maybe I prefer the original greek, because it's really a title that loses meaning without cultural and political context. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted August 6, 2023 Author Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, alre said: I prefer the original greek, because it's really a title that loses meaning without cultural and political context. Yeah, that's what I mean. While "Father Loving" is the most "accurate" translation, "Father Honoring" seems more in-line with context. But yeah, the original "Philopater" and "Soter" etc. might just be easier to go with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurken Khan Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 When I looked it up I took "Philopater" more as "fatherland loving" than about the actual father; "patriotic" if you will. I'm fine with the originals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alre Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 if I recall well, it's about the actual father. it's a political title meant to give legitimacy to a ruler linking them to the father. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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