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5 minutes ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

@Obskiuras do you need one? I thought I had set that repository to 'public' so anyone can clone. That repository is a bit behind since i've been working on the gitea pull request. (I would link it, but gitea seems to be down atm).

Is there a "contributor" role? I'm not sure which is best, but I don't think it will make much of a difference if you want to contribute to the mod.

If you have some art to contribute, you could also send it to me and I can add it directly to the pull request.

if it´s not necessary, then i won´t do it, thanks anyway.

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18 hours ago, real_tabasco_sauce said:

do you want to try DE suebians, or what is being prepared on gitea?

If you want to do the latter, it might be easier to just clone this mod: https://gitlab.com/real_tabasco_sauce/cimbri-refinement

move to your mods folder then do:

git clone https://gitlab.com/real_tabasco_sauce/cimbri-refinement.git

not sure how you could get just the suebians out of DE.

I´m not understanding how to do it.

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The basic units are a bit boring:

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The helmets are not compatible with the Cimbrian wars, those helmets are posterior, and the alesia helmet in bronze never existed:

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There is a large mix up of shield bosses from centuries much before the Cimbrian war and shield bosses from after.

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Weird wolf warrior, not sure from which source it came from:

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Boiorix uses a helmet from the end of the Gallic Wars, so decades later:

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1 hour ago, Genava55 said:

The basic units are a bit boring:

image.png.c7b2facba84b1f1fb532a1355d070f2f.png

image.png.89cda48dc5e05976f5d4c272700b55c7.png

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The helmets are not compatible with the Cimbrian wars, those helmets are posterior, and the alesia helmet in bronze never existed:

image.thumb.png.bcb5677d09e6918dc332ba9a2f6f7a7f.png

image.png.143f019c60deb4cde6ccaa4dc714ddd3.png

There is a large mix up of shield bosses from centuries much before the Cimbrian war and shield bosses from after.

image.png.6141b2cc43912129caa321a42919f041.png

image.png.54094a5821b7de74ae351afce128ca15.png

Weird wolf warrior, not sure from which source it came from:

image.png.eae1e397afb04cde5a12459dde73b9d4.png

Boiorix uses a helmet from the end of the Gallic Wars, so decades later:

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I agree, the basic units are very boring compared to the examples that can be found in illustrations. About the wolf warrior (ulfhednar), i think Tacitus mentions it in his book Germania, about the Batabos tribe.

About helmets, i don´t know much, could you give us examples of helmets of that time?

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4 hours ago, Obskiuras said:

About helmets, i don´t know much, could you give us examples of helmets of that time?

Cimbrian war is 113–101 BC, so at this time those were still used (iron helmets):

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and those started to appear (bronze helmets):

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There is also the Roman montefortino, which used by Gauls too.

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On 20/03/2025 at 2:45 PM, Genava55 said:

The basic units are a bit boring:

image.png.c7b2facba84b1f1fb532a1355d070f2f.png

image.png.89cda48dc5e05976f5d4c272700b55c7.png

image.png.c9c66031892b8a8617718ae116ff8686.png

The helmets are not compatible with the Cimbrian wars, those helmets are posterior, and the alesia helmet in bronze never existed:

image.thumb.png.bcb5677d09e6918dc332ba9a2f6f7a7f.png

image.png.143f019c60deb4cde6ccaa4dc714ddd3.png

There is a large mix up of shield bosses from centuries much before the Cimbrian war and shield bosses from after.

image.png.6141b2cc43912129caa321a42919f041.png

image.png.54094a5821b7de74ae351afce128ca15.png

Weird wolf warrior, not sure from which source it came from:

image.png.eae1e397afb04cde5a12459dde73b9d4.png

Boiorix uses a helmet from the end of the Gallic Wars, so decades later:

image.png.e79d201133ed974c8f93e68afc1f5f0d.png

What do you think @wowgetoffyourcellphone?

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On 20/03/2025 at 10:45 AM, Genava55 said:

The basic units are a bit boring:

Any suggestion? Basic units are generally boring compared to elite ones. One idea is to use some of the furs, like what is used for the wolf warriors and Teutobod. I could also give them cloaks/capes.

On 20/03/2025 at 10:45 AM, Genava55 said:

The helmets are not compatible with the Cimbrian wars, those helmets are posterior, and the alesia helmet in bronze never existed:

Could you maybe draw on this .png which helmets are problematic?

@Genava55 Could you also indicate which bosses are problematic? My thoughts are that simple bosses and/or no bosses would be ideal. Some of them clash with the geometric artwork on the shields.

For Boiorix, I like the idea of using one of those simple iron caps (but shiny :D).

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