Specific Name Review: Structures

[Ultimate Aurelian]

1 hour ago, Thalatta said:

I think these, along with Walls, should be removed, like with the Spartans, who actually did end building them in the middle of the Hellenistic period.

Well currently theyre just bigger wooden walls that hold troops, not really stone walls.

The Germans seem to at least have built fortifications in their own homeland before migrating, whatever the walls could be manned i'm not sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borremose (A fortified village found in a region of Denmark sometimes theorized to be the Cimbrian homeland. It was abandoned in the 2nd century.)

Edited 1 hour ago by Ultimate Aurelian

[Thalatta]

1 hour ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

Well currently theyre just bigger wooden walls that hold troops, not really stone walls.

The Germans seem to at least have built fortifications in their own homeland before migrating, whatever the walls could be manned i'm not sure.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borremose (A fortified village found in a region of Denmark sometimes theorized to be the Cimbrian homeland. It was abandoned in the 2nd century.)

I see, but Borremose was "fortified by a moat and an earthen wall", but let's be generous and say earth=stone. Anyway, what seems fishy is that their HP is 1000 to 3000, almost like for the Athenians at 1100 to 3300, while for the Gauls, more known for their stone walls, it's 800 to 2400, although they seem to build them faster. I think earthen walls should be built faster than stone walls (no need to shape big blocks and lift them), but be weaker since they can't be so tall ("HP" is hard to evaluate but the game doesn't allow wall capture, which should be their actual weakness).

Edited 40 minutes ago by Thalatta

[Ultimate Aurelian]

31 minutes ago, Thalatta said:

I see, but Borremose was "fortified by a moat and an earthen wall", but let's be generous and say earth=stone. Anyway, what seems fishy is that their HP is 1000 to 3000, almost like for the Athenians at 1100 to 3300, while for the Gauls, more known for their stone walls, it's 800 to 2400, although they seem to build them faster. I think earthen walls should be built faster than stone walls (no need to shape big blocks and lift them), but be weaker since they can't be so tall ("HP" is hard to evaluate but the game doesn't allow wall capture, which should be their actual weakness).

I had not looked at the stats.

I do agree it could be reworked to not be as strong, maybe closer to a Roman siege wall?

And Gaul walls could have stronger stats (or be improved with murus gallicus technology).

Edited 11 minutes ago by Ultimate Aurelian