real_tabasco_sauce Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 they seem good to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frederick_1 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 17 hours ago, manowar said: Thanks @Genava55 how about this list ? - Arminius - Cheruscan leader who defeated Varus in the Teutoburg Forest; mentioned by Cassius Dio and Tacitus. - Maroboduus - King of the Marcomanni who ruled a powerful kingdom beyond the Roman frontier; mentioned by Tacitus. - Veleda - Bructerian seeress with major political influence during the Batavian Revolt; mentioned by Tacitus. - Vannius - Quadian ruler installed over a Suebi-related frontier kingdom; mentioned by Tacitus. - Ariovistus - Suebian leader who crossed the Rhine into Gaul and fought Julius Caesar; mentioned by Caesar in Commentarii de Bello Gallico. - Catualda - Marcomannic noble who overthrew Maroboduus before being driven into exile; mentioned by Tacitus in the Annals. - Ballomar - King or leading war chief of the Marcomanni during the Marcomannic Wars; mentioned by Cassius Dio. - Gannascus - Chieftain of the Canninefates/Chauci associated with raids on the Rhine frontier; mentioned by Tacitus in the Annals. When I search for these names, I get these german wikipedia pages, with some more information about the names and variants (not on all): https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arminius https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marbod https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veleda https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vannius_(Quaden) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariovist https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catualda https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballomar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gannascus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manowar Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Thanks @Frederick_1 that provides useful reference points for any future challenges / changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vantha Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Most of them lived after AD 1, which I'm not a fan of, but fine. The only one who's definitely too late is Ballomar, since he lived in the second century AD, so I wouldn't include him. @manowar If you make those changes to the PR, I'll merge it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manowar Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Thanks Vantha I removed Ballomar leaving the list below. The PR is here if you approve. "Ariovistus", "Arminius", "Catualda", "Claodicus", "Gannascus", "Maroboduus", "Vannius", "Veleda" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted May 4 Author Share Posted May 4 FYI Pull request #8784 has been merged. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted August 22 Author Share Posted August 22 On 18/02/2026 at 10:30 AM, Vantha said: @Genava55 Though, it would be nice to add proper Proto-Germanic names to the heroes; Teutobod, Lugius, and Boiorix. On 18/02/2026 at 11:00 AM, Genava55 said: Boiorix and Lugius are probably Celtic but we can Germanize their names. So it would be Þeudōbudô, Lugijaz and Bajārīks. See the new PR #9157 (+ grammar correction of Catafalque name) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted August 25 Author Share Posted August 25 FYI PR #9157 already got merged two day ago. If I read this thread correctly, every open task is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago (edited) On 16/02/2026 at 7:43 PM, Genava55 said: A first draft, some names are quite difficult to interpret in Proto-Germanic (PGmc) Historical names Etymology Meaning PGmc reconstruction Claodicus *hlūd- + *īk- "Powerful through his fame" *Hlūdagīkaz Caesorix *gaizaz + *rīks "King of the spear" *Gaizarīks Teutagonus *theudō + *gunthiz "People's battle" *Theudagunthaz Cotto *kath- / *kott- "The fighter (diminutive)" *Kottō Deldo *dal- / *del- "The shining one or the sharer" *Deldō Atès / Atas *attō "Father (honorific title)" *Attō Nasua *nas- "The one who has a (large) nose" *Nasuō Cimberius *kimbra- + *-jaz "The one of the Cimbri" *Kimbarjaz https://www.researchgate.net/publication/347859019_Cimbri_and_Teutoni this article proposes an interesting etymology for the name of those tribes. Quote The well-known names Cimbri and Teutoni / Teutones are traditionally said to denominate two different Germanic tribes. Here a new idea is proposed, namely that they originally formed a syntagm consisting of both words, PGmc. *þeu̯đanōz kumƀrii̯ōn ‘chieftains of tribes’, which later got split up into two tribal names in ancient sources: Teutoni Cimbrique, or Τευτόνοι καὶ Κίμβροι. While PGmc. *kumƀr- must be reconstructed, there are different ways in which the name is rendered in the Latin and Greek sources, where we find a variation u/y – i in the root vowel. This may be due to the fact that there is a certain fluctuation between u and i in inherited words in Latin on the one hand and a fluctuation between all these vowels in loaned words and names in both languages. The original form of the name of the Cimbri, PGmc. *kumƀrii̯a, may continue an obscured compound of the roots PIE *gem- ‘press, squeeze, grab’ and *bher- ‘carry’. Pgmc. *þeu̯đanōz is the regular plural to *þeu̯đanaz ‘tribal chieftain’, later ‘king’. Its origin from PGmc. *þeu̯đō ‘tribe’ is generally accepted. Among various etymological attempts to analyze ‘West Indo-European’ *teu̯tā we prefer the idea of de Vries deriving the word from the Celto-Germanic isogloss to *teu̯to- ‘good, friendly’. The Hittite cognates imply the existence of the root *teu̯- ‘to be kind, friendly’. I'm not sure it's really a composite word (Sometimes the source mention just Cimbri or just Teutones); but the kumƀrii̯a etymology might be plausible. On 19/02/2026 at 1:30 PM, Genava55 said: Sure. It pretty straightforward for those. Teutobod = *þeudō (people, tribe) + *budô (voice, message, command) = Þeudōbudô Lugius = *Lugi- (of the Lugii) + *-jaz (equivalent to Latin name ending in -ius) = Lugijaz Boiorix = *Bajā-/*Boio- (of the Boii) + *-rīks (king) = Bajārīks https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/lugiz It's the word for lie, although probably coincidence (i think name of the lugii might be celtic in origin). Edited 5 hours ago by Ultimate Aurelian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Personally I prefer not presuming the etymology of those tribal names. It is easier to interpret the personal names as a reference to their tribes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate Aurelian Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Genava55 said: Personally I prefer not presuming the etymology of those tribal names. It is easier to interpret the personal names as a reference to their tribes. I suppose you just treat them like personal names without inferring meaning then. That can actually work (they probably had some meaning in real life, but we can't necessarily know it) I was considering suggesting some names for mod units and was in doubt about that. Specially what to call the Cherusci or Chatti. A lot of people associated the Cherusci with deer (herutaz) i was questioning whatever it could be derived from ''heruz'' (sword; heruskoz would be something like the ''sharp'',''sword like'', ''sword-esque''). Or whatever Chatti could be related to hatjaną (hunt, attack, pursue), hataz (hate), or haftaz (captive, bound. As in Germania it is mentioned some of them wear iron rings until they kill an enemy; and that this is seem as shameful by other tribes). Edited 59 minutes ago by Ultimate Aurelian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted 32 minutes ago Share Posted 32 minutes ago 25 minutes ago, Ultimate Aurelian said: I was considering suggesting some names for mod units and was in doubt about that. Specially what to call the Cherusci or Chatti. A lot of people associated the Cherusci with deer (herutaz) i was questioning whatever it could be derived from ''heruz'' (sword; heruskoz would be something like the ''sharp'',''sword like'', ''sword-esque''). Or whatever Chatti could be related to hatjaną (hunt, attack, pursue), hataz (hate), or haftaz (captive, bound. As in Germania it is mentioned some of them wear iron rings until they kill an enemy; and that this is seem as shameful by other tribes). Do you really need to know that for a unit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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