Acanthis Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 Whichever the case may be, the fact that people are abusing it recently is a shame. Sell metal for wood until the price of metal is quite low, buy the metal back with many times over return on investment. Players amassing 5000, 10 000 metal in a matter of seconds. Then just so happening to be a mercenary heavy civ while claiming not to know English or that exploiting bugs is cheating. Hopefully there is a fix, otherwise hard to want to spend any free time playing when it can ruin a game. The only silver lining is that it reveals which players are most willing to use exploits in order to win and try avoid playing with them in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinme Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 At least ppl can see it occur in tgs(trading history), if it is public knowledge and just ban those who cheat, seems easy enough. Im assuming this works with any res right? not just metal im guessing. Im gessing something to do with price changes being imbalanced? Or I remember something about ppl saying shift buying giving the initial price for whole batch, altho from my understanding thats not the case. Does this profit only occur with extreme conditions (selling thousands then rebuy), or can it occur in a less extreme manner even in general market use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakara Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 PLEASE delete this topic and send in private to staff 35 minutes ago, vinme said: At least ppl can see it occur in tgs(trading history), if it is public knowledge and just ban those who cheat, seems easy enough. Im assuming this works with any res right? not just metal im guessing. Im gessing something to do with price changes being imbalanced? Or I remember something about ppl saying shift buying giving the initial price for whole batch, altho from my understanding thats not the case. Does this profit only occur with extreme conditions (selling thousands then rebuy), or can it occur in a less extreme manner even in general market use? not in ffa without spec , noboby know, but in market we see something wrong. NOW how abuse market, without cheat purpose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grautvornix Posted June 11 Report Share Posted June 11 Just a thought: there is a mod "volatile market". Would that fix this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinme Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 On 11/06/2025 at 11:14 PM, Dakara said: PLEASE delete this topic and send in private to staff not in ffa without spec , noboby know, but in market we see something wrong. NOW how abuse market, without cheat purpose? Yes. market would signal suspicion. Still very niche scenario, FFA with 0 spec. Rare. Not a giant problem. If suspicious, watch replay after and expose cheater to rest of players(ik ofc huge hassle and no1 will care anyway prob). Obv a fix would be nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obelix Posted June 12 Report Share Posted June 12 See also: ticket #6760 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffm2 Posted June 13 Report Share Posted June 13 (edited) 15 hours ago, vinme said: If suspicious, watch replay after If you don't want to install the oddity detector (which warns in-game) you could check quickly the barter efficiency. If that is suspiciously high watch the complete replay. Note: Just a high efficiency alone is not sufficient to claim a market exploit. It is normal game play to use good prices once one takes note of it in the market. But a market exploit causes a high barter efficiency. Edited June 13 by ffm2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acanthis Posted June 13 Author Report Share Posted June 13 On 11/06/2025 at 9:39 PM, vinme said: At least ppl can see it occur in tgs(trading history), if it is public knowledge and just ban those who cheat, seems easy enough. Im assuming this works with any res right? not just metal im guessing. Im gessing something to do with price changes being imbalanced? Or I remember something about ppl saying shift buying giving the initial price for whole batch, altho from my understanding thats not the case. Does this profit only occur with extreme conditions (selling thousands then rebuy), or can it occur in a less extreme manner even in general market use? Yes, this is another silver lining with having specs in the game who are nice enough to warn. Hopefully those who are hosting will have the courage to at least temporarily suspend some of these players who are using the exploit. I'm not a huge fan of just outright banning people, but more consequences would be good. Let's see how it develops. Regarding deleting this topic, not sure it needs to be. I think people need to be made aware that this is a (renewed?) issue and to be on the lookout for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diagonalo Posted Thursday at 19:52 Report Share Posted Thursday at 19:52 Please fix. This has the potential to break the multiplayer lobby if it was more public knowledge/smurfs used it. That ofc is true for others tricks and clients aswell but most of the other things I encountered only give you a slight advantage while with this anyone who can solid champion build now has 100% win-rate regardless of skill against non abusers. Banning people who use it from TGs seems to be the current way to go. Sadly you can also be in situation where you really have to barter away your metal or do it by mistake or stumble upon the mechanic by pure chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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