wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted December 26, 2024 Share Posted December 26, 2024 Clearing up some misconceptions of the term "Hoplite" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genava55 Posted December 26, 2024 Share Posted December 26, 2024 Yeah it is sadly something repeated over and over by modern pseudo-historians. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wowgetoffyourcellphone Posted December 26, 2024 Author Share Posted December 26, 2024 3 hours ago, Genava55 said: Yeah it is sadly something repeated over and over by modern pseudo-historians. I haven't watched the whole video, but I've known for several years, possibly as long as I've been working on 0 A.D., that the "hoplite comes from their hoplon shield" trope was just incorrect received knowledge passed down for 150 years. Hoplon means gear or kit or equipment, so sure, a shield is a hoplon, but hoplon is not shield. Aspis is shield, always has been (lol). So, hoplite always meant "one who is equipped" (for battle). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 26, 2024 Share Posted December 26, 2024 (edited) 14 hours ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Clearing up some misconceptions of the term "Hoplite" This is in Spanish audio(multi audio). Edited December 26, 2024 by Lion.Kanzen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion.Kanzen Posted December 26, 2024 Share Posted December 26, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: I haven't watched the whole video, but I've known for several years, possibly as long as I've been working on 0 A.D., that the "hoplite comes from their hoplon shield" trope was just incorrect received knowledge passed down for 150 years. Hoplon means gear or kit or equipment, so sure, a shield is a hoplon, but hoplon is not shield. Aspis is shield, always has been (lol). So, hoplite always meant "one who is equipped" (for battle). Could you say that it means "armed"? Are all soldiers; hoplites? Edit: "man-at-arms" "Hombre de armas" in Spanish. Edit2: Later he quotes Homer speaking about Achilles. I like these references. The first time the term "hoplite" is used, according to him, is a reference to a writing by Pindar. Edited December 26, 2024 by Lion.Kanzen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lion.Kanzen Posted December 27, 2024 Share Posted December 27, 2024 We need the hat from the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorfinn the Shallow Minded Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 On 25/12/2024 at 10:28 PM, wowgetoffyourcellphone said: Clearing up some misconceptions of the term "Hoplite" Next thing you'll be telling me that Νικη didn't found the shoe brand. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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