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[Ultimate Aurelian]

2 hours ago, Duileoga said:

-Si , esas mismas armas, en forma de triángulo, pensé que como se usaban en el periodo anterior , las habría en el siguiente pero hechas de hierro.

¿Qué es un "Picks"? el traductor dice una cosa muy extraña jajaja.

 

Disculpen las molestias*

Quise decir que se parecen más a picos  o hachas.

 

Edited Wednesday at 19:19 by Ultimate Aurelian

[Ultimate Aurelian]

2 hours ago, Duileoga said:

¿Puede desarrollar más esa idea? por favor ,me ha dado curiosidad .

Some who argue for Irish using chariots believe they were used in a similar way to the chariots of the Britons (transporting elites to battle).

From Caesar's gallic wars

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“Their manner of fighting from chariots is as follows. First of all they drive in all directions and hurl missiles, and so by the mere terror that the teams inspire and by the noise of the wheels they generally throw ranks into confusion. When they have worked their way in between the troops of cavalry, they leap down from the chariots and fight on foot. Meanwhile the charioteers retire gradually from the combat, and dispose the chariots in such fashion that, if the warriors are hard pressed by the host of the enemy, they may have a ready means of retirement to their own side. Thus they show in action the mobility of cavalry and the stability of infantry; and by daily use and practice they become so accomplished that they are ready to gallop their teams down the steepest of slopes without loss of control, to check and turn them in a moment, to run along the pole, stand on the yoke, and then, quick as lightning, to dart back into the chariot”

 

[Thalatta]

4 hours ago, Duileoga said:

¿Qué es un "Picks"? el traductor dice una cosa muy extraña jajaja.

Puede significar muchas cosas. Como verbo es "seleccionar" (lo que tal vez te indica primero el traductor). Como sustantivo puede ser desde la "púa" para tocar la guitarra, hasta la herramienta "pica", o el arma "pica" (ambas similares, pero una optimizada para minar, la otra para combatir). No te quedes solo con lo primero que devuelve un traductor.

 

50 minutes ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

Some who argue for Irish using chariots believe they were used in a similar way to the chariots of the Britons (transporting elites to battle).

I think it hasn't been mentioned, but apparently British horses were smaller (yet sturdy), enhancing the utility of chariots when compared with just mounting them (https://www.shadow-of-the-wall.co.uk/bone_evidence.html). There's also the idea of that being ritualistic for elite warriors. On top of all this, Celtic vehicles seem advanced, since "the Roman Empire benefited from the contributions of Celtic technology (Schonfelder 2002), as the specialized Latin vocabulary tends to show. A rich terminology for land vehicles borrowed from Celtic-including henna, carpentum, carruca, carrus, cisium, covinus, currus, petoritum, pilentum, plaustrum, sarracum, and triga-is indicative of the growing functionality of Roman vehicles", from The Oxford Handbook of Engineering and Technology in the Classical World, by J. P. Oleson, and "the Latin word carpentum mentioned in Isidore – from which the English word "carpenter" descended – in fact was borrowed by the Romans from the Celtic word for a special type of cart. Perhaps because of the plentiful supplies of high-quality wood in Gaul, the Gallic woodworkers were particularly skilled in the production in wood of sophisticated vehicles and machinery such as force pumps and water mills", from Greek and Roman Technology, by A. N. Sherwood.

[Ultimate Aurelian]

7 hours ago, Genava55 said:

There is no consensus. Experts have been debating this subject for a long time without reaching a consensus. The problem is that it is difficult in any case to explain the presence of chariots in early medieval Irish myths if we assume that they did not exist during the Iron Age. Experts are sometimes disingenuous, going so far as to claim that the chariots never existed and that the myths were fabricated from scratch by Christians, drawing on Roman writings. Objectively speaking, that’s complete rubbish, but I don’t feel like debating the issue. 

Is it possible they had blades on their chariots?

I think scythe chariots show up in some Irish myths and Roman accounts about the Britons.

But ive also read those only existed in the near east.

[Genava55]

14 minutes ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

Is it possible they had blades on their chariots?

No I don't think so. Pomponius Mela is the first to mention this implausible description but he was a notorious armchair geographer. Later on, several poets mentioned the scythed chariots but they were fabricating things. Thus, no scythed chariot.

The reliable primary sources do not mention scythed chariots.

Edited Wednesday at 23:05 by Genava55

[Genava55]

2 hours ago, Thalatta said:

I think it hasn't been mentioned, but apparently British horses were smaller (yet sturdy), enhancing the utility of chariots when compared with just mounting them (https://www.shadow-of-the-wall.co.uk/bone_evidence.html). There's also the idea of that being ritualistic for elite warriors. On top of all this, Celtic vehicles seem advanced, since "the Roman Empire benefited from the contributions of Celtic technology (Schonfelder 2002), as the specialized Latin vocabulary tends to show. A rich terminology for land vehicles borrowed from Celtic-including henna, carpentum, carruca, carrus, cisium, covinus, currus, petoritum, pilentum, plaustrum, sarracum, and triga-is indicative of the growing functionality of Roman vehicles", from The Oxford Handbook of Engineering and Technology in the Classical World, by J. P. Oleson, and "the Latin word carpentum mentioned in Isidore – from which the English word "carpenter" descended – in fact was borrowed by the Romans from the Celtic word for a special type of cart. Perhaps because of the plentiful supplies of high-quality wood in Gaul, the Gallic woodworkers were particularly skilled in the production in wood of sophisticated vehicles and machinery such as force pumps and water mills", from Greek and Roman Technology, by A. N. Sherwood.

Furthermore, the Old Irish carpat (ˈkaɾ.bəd̪) for chariot can only be derived from a Celtic language. A borrowing from Latin would have resulted in a completely different form and pronunciation.

[Ultimate Aurelian]

1 hour ago, Genava55 said:

No I don't think so. Pomponius Mela is the first to mention this implausible description but he was a notorious armchair geographer. Later on, several poets mentioned the scythed chariots but they were fabricating things. Thus, no scythed chariot.

The reliable primary sources do not mention scythed chariots.

They are apparently mentioned in epics

https://celt.ucc.ie/published/T301035/text021.html

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After Cú Chulainn had been thus distorted, the hero sprang into his scythed chariot with its iron points, its thin sharp edges, its hooks, its steel points, with its sharp spikes of a hero, its arrangement for opening, with its nails that were on the shafts and thongs and loops and fastenings in that chariot.

https://celt.ucc.ie/published/T301021/text086.html

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Cuchulaind then wanted to go to the rath of Forgall. And the scythe-chariot was prepared for Cuchulaind that day. It was called scythe-chariot (carpat serrda) from the iron scythes that were from it, or again because it was first invented by the Serians.

Now those might just be exaggerations, which does bring into question how accurate other passages about chariots are.

Although i think the Irish may have actually had chariots (but probably not with blades), as you have mentioned before in the thread there is evidence in some metal fittings and their word for chariot.

 

Edited Thursday at 00:18 by Ultimate Aurelian

[Thalatta]

1 hour ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

They are apparently mentioned in epics

Written down in their present form in the High Middle Ages. Even if they refer to supposed events from a millennium earlier, it's hard to know by then what external influences and other anachronisms could have crept in in the story (as I've recently mentioned happens with funerary practices in the Iliad, where half that time passed).

[Genava55]

As Thalatta explained, Irish epic tales were significantly altered by external influences, in this case Christianization and the medieval historical tradition. For one thing, oral tradition is inherently timeless, oral narratives are constantly adapted to the changing realities of society. Consequently, these stories had almost certainly undergone changes before being fixed in writing. Furthermore, when monks committed the tales to writing, they adapted them even further, drawing inspiration from the Bible, the writings of Jordanes and Gregory of Tours, and other sources from their medieval context.

Irish tales contain a great many anachronisms and stories that are implausible for a pre-Christian society. It is essential to analyze them with a critical eye and sound methodology in order to extract useful information.

In this case, scythed chariots are voluntarily added to further enhance a supposed link between Ireland and the Near East. The Serians represent a conflation of the Syrians and the Seres (of Central Asia).

Edited Thursday at 08:00 by Genava55

[Ultimate Aurelian]

6 hours ago, Genava55 said:

As Thalatta explained, Irish epic tales were significantly altered by external influences, in this case Christianization and the medieval historical tradition. For one thing, oral tradition is inherently timeless, oral narratives are constantly adapted to the changing realities of society. Consequently, these stories had almost certainly undergone changes before being fixed in writing. Furthermore, when monks committed the tales to writing, they adapted them even further, drawing inspiration from the Bible, the writings of Jordanes and Gregory of Tours, and other sources from their medieval context.

Irish tales contain a great many anachronisms and stories that are implausible for a pre-Christian society. It is essential to analyze them with a critical eye and sound methodology in order to extract useful information.

In this case, scythed chariots are voluntarily added to further enhance a supposed link between Ireland and the Near East. The Serians represent a conflation of the Syrians and the Seres (of Central Asia).

There are also mentions of bows and armor which IIRC are not really found in iron age Ireland.

I suppose chariots without scythes could still be included since there seems to be some evidence (even without finds of a whole chariot) .

[Genava55]

2 hours ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

There are also mentions of bows and armor which IIRC are not really found in iron age Ireland.

Even though I love archaeology, we shouldn't treat it as the ultimate source of truth. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. For one thing, very few Iron Age graves have been discovered in Ireland, and what we do find inside is always subject to bias. We find bows and arrows in Celtic princely graves in Central Europe, but these are hunting weapons; objectively, we shouldn't interpret them as weapons of war.

The reason I support the Gauls having archers and not the Britons is simply because we have historical accounts of archers deployed in the battlefield for the Gauls. There is no such account for the Britons for our time period.

Edited Thursday at 15:21 by Genava55

[Ultimate Aurelian]

58 minutes ago, Genava55 said:

Even though I love archaeology, we shouldn't treat it as the ultimate source of truth. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. For one thing, very few Iron Age graves have been discovered in Ireland, and what we do find inside is always subject to bias. We find bows and arrows in Celtic princely graves in Central Europe, but these are hunting weapons; objectively, we shouldn't interpret them as weapons of war.

The reason I support the Gauls having archers and not the Britons is simply because we have historical accounts of archers deployed in the battlefield for the Gauls. There is no such account for the Britons for our time period.

In case of the Irish, archeology is perhaps the main source (due do the lack of Roman accounts and medieval epics not being very reliable).

Perhaps champion units could be distinguished from clothing, scabbards and jewelry.

Maybe a chance of having a horned headdress, but those might be better suited for heroes.

EB2 gave some of the Irish cavalry leather armor:

 

It's not entirely impossible they had leather/cloth armor that did not survive, although i'm not sure they would follow the same Gaulish style with shoulderpads (the leather armor of the Gauls seem to have been inspired by Greek examples).

Edited Thursday at 16:16 by Ultimate Aurelian

[Ultimate Aurelian]

On 29/09/2026 at 1:16 AM, Ultimate Aurelian said:

 

Cork horns (probably attached to a headdress)

 

Modern reconstruction.

1940s reconstruction  (Uses the term helmet, but they might actually be from a headress due to how thin the metal is)

 

Drawing of similar horns from Runnabehy (ignore the helmet in the middle, it is Gaulish or Gallo-Roman)

 

Edited Thursday at 22:06 by Ultimate Aurelian

[Duileoga]

On 30/09/2026 at 9:19 PM, Ultimate Aurelian said:

Quise decir que se parecen más a picos  o hachas.

 

Buenos día o tardes;

-Si tiene razón , encontré estas referencias:

-Sumado a su referencias de escudos(Clonoura) y unidades , esta en un primer boceto para la unidad:

¿Qué opinan?

 

Disculpen las molestias*

[Nicolaus_von_Kues]

On 01/10/2026 at 10:14 AM, Ultimate Aurelian said:

Modern reconstruction.

1940s reconstruction  (Uses the term helmet, but they might actually be from a headress due to how thin the metal is)

 

Drawing of similar horns from Runnabehy (ignore the helmet in the middle, it is Gaulish or Gallo-Roman)

 

It would really scare me to see a crazy person dressed like that.

It's psychological warfare; it's the same reason why a bear stands on two legs and increases its physical size.

[Ultimate Aurelian]

27 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

Buenos día o tardes;

-Si tiene razón , encontré estas referencias:

-Sumado a su referencias de escudos(Clonoura) y unidades , esta en un primer boceto para la unidad:

¿Qué opinan?

 

Disculpen las molestias*

I like the shields and clothing.

My understanding is those weapons existed in an earlier bronze age timeframe.

I dont think there were any iron  versions.

[Thalatta]

1 hour ago, Duileoga said:

Ah, pero esto es de la Edad del Bronce Temprana, usualmente no después del 2000 A.C., aunque Ronan O'Flaherty en "The Early Bronze Age Halberd: A History of Research and a Brief Guide to the Sources" menciona que Joseph Raftery argumenta por 1000 A.C. para esas armas, pero ciertamente bastante anterior al período del juego. Se llaman alabardas sí, aunque no se parecen demasiado a las alabardas medievales, ni son parte de su evolución.

[Ultimate Aurelian]

 

On 29/09/2026 at 1:16 AM, Ultimate Aurelian said:

https://europabarbarorum.fandom.com/wiki/Bodina_(Goidelic_Skirmishers)

 

 

On 29/09/2026 at 1:16 AM, Ultimate Aurelian said:

https://europabarbarorum.fandom.com/wiki/Kladibiakoi_(Goidelic_Swordsmen)

 

On 29/09/2026 at 1:16 AM, Ultimate Aurelian said:

 

https://europabarbarorum.fandom.com/wiki/Eqoreda_(Goidelic_Cavalry)

 

 

 

9 hours ago, Duileoga said:

 

-Si tiene razón , encontré estas referencias: Sumado a su referencias de escudos(Clonoura) y unidades , esta en un primer boceto para la unidad:

¿

 

For unit ranks i think you could have something like

Basic: No shirt, pants or loincloth. Plain shield

Advanced: Simple tunic without pants

Elite:Simple tunic with or without pants, cloak, painted shields.

Champions: Torcs, finer tunics with pants, finer cloaks, painted shields.  Perhaps headdress or some kind of leather/cloth armor for champions too.

Edited 16 hours ago by Ultimate Aurelian

[Ultimate Aurelian]

On 28/09/2026 at 12:53 PM, Duileoga said:

(Reclutados en"Recinto ceremonial regio")
24. Túathar techtmar :---------------------( ) jinete  telas lujosas.
25. :-------------------------------------------( ) jinete  armadura de metal y casco
26.:--------------------------------------------( ) carruage 2 caballos,armadura de metal y casco

For heroes you'd have to reuse some of the mythical AI names.

Or have generic hero types (champion warrior, high king, maybe even a priest hero too although there is little information on religion).

Túathal could probably be the heaviest equipped one (possible Roman and/or Romanized-Briton alliance).

Have Romans ever been to Ireland? (Italian with english subtitles):

Edited 4 hours ago by Ultimate Aurelian

[Ultimate Aurelian]

 

 

On 28/09/2026 at 12:53 PM, Duileoga said:

 

Unidades marítimas 
(Reclutados en "Puerto" y "Promontorio costero") 
20.Pesquero ----------------------------------(Korukos eiskos) 
21.Mercante ----------------------------------(Longāwreikos ) 
22.Navío militar-------------------------------(Longākoryos) 

 

 

For appareance the fishing boat could be a dugout canoe.

The merchant ship could be a sailboat carrying cargo. (Possibly a large hide currach)

Scout ship could be a hide currach with no sail, carrying a couple warriors.

Arrow/Javelin ship could be the same sort of sailboat as the merchant ship (but no cargo, and possibly put warriors on it).

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Ultimate Aurelian

[Duileoga]

21 hours ago, Thalatta said:

Ah, pero esto es de la Edad del Bronce Temprana, usualmente no después del 2000 A.C., aunque Ronan O'Flaherty en "The Early Bronze Age Halberd: A History of Research and a Brief Guide to the Sources" menciona que Joseph Raftery argumenta por 1000 A.C. para esas armas, pero ciertamente bastante anterior al período del juego. Se llaman alabardas sí, aunque no se parecen demasiado a las alabardas medievales, ni son parte de su evolución.

23 hours ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

My understanding is those weapons existed in an earlier bronze age timeframe.

I dont think there were any iron  versions

Buenos días o tardes;

-Les doy la razón , aunque mi nivel de inglés no es muy bueno, pido perdón por el mal entendido. Encontré esta otra arma, que si es de hierro , en español se llama Pico o Asta y es de madera y hierro;

¿Qué opinan?

 

 

Disculpen las molestias*

[Duileoga]

2 hours ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

For heroes you'd have to reuse some of the mythical AI names.

Or have generic hero types (champion warrior, high king, maybe even a priest hero too although there is little information on religion)

-Pensé en eso y la primera idea; Sería colocar a la familia de Túathal y su dinastía.

(Foras Feasa ar Éirinn 100 a.c- 100 d.c)

Dinastía "Connachta "

• Túathal techtmal --------------------------( ) Alto rey Muy posible que existiera
• Eithne Imgel-------------------------------( ) Madre de Túathal (Princesa)
• Fíachu Finnolach---------------------------( )Padre de Túathal
• Báine Balbh--------------------------------( ) Esposa de Túathal (princesa)
• Fedelm Derg-------------------------------( ) Hija de Túathal (princesa)
• Dáirine--------------------------------------( ) Hija de Túathal (princesa)
• Fedlimid Rechtmar--------------------------( ) Hijo de Túathal
• Conn Cétchathach-------------------------( )  Nieto de Túathal

 

 

 

-La segunda idea: Es poner a los Altos Reyes de irlanda.

(Foras Feasa ar Éirinn 100 a.c- 100 d.c)

-Altos reyes:
• Eochaid Feidlech (94 a.C. – 82 a.C.)
• Eochaid Airem (82 a.C. – 67 a.C.)
• Eterscél (67 a.C. – 64 a.C.)
• Nuadu Necht (64 a.C. – 63 a.C.)
• Conaire Mór (63 a.C. – 33 a.C.)
• Lugaid Riab nDerg (33 a.C. – 13 a.C.)
• Conchobar Abradruad (13 a.C. – 12 a.C.)
• Crimthann Nia Náir (12 a.C. – 5 d.C.)
• Cairbre Cinnchait (5 d.C. – 10 d.C.)
• Feradach Finnfechtnach (10 d.C. – 32 d.C.)
• Fíatach Finn (32 d.C. – 35 d.C.)
• Fiacha Finnfolaidh (35 d.C. – 52 d.C.)
• Elim mac Conrach (52 d.C. – 72 d.C.)
• Tuathal Teachtmhar (72 d.C. – 102 d.C.)
 

 

 

-La tercera idea: Emplazar a los reyes "Aitheach Túatha"(reyes/tribus vasallos) o "Attacotti" (Vasallos).

(Foras Feasa ar Éirinn 100 a.c- 100 d.c)

Ulster
• Eochaid Sálbuide
• Fergus mac Róich
• Conchobar mac Nessa
• Cúscraid mac Conchobar
• Fíatach Finn
• Éllim mac Conrach
• Mal mac Rochride
•Congal Cláiringnech
•Ross Ruad
•Eochaid Sálbuide

Connacht
• Eochaid Feidlech
• Eochaidh Allat
• Tinni mac Conri
• Reina Medb 
• Ailill mac Máta
• Sanbh Sithcheann mac Ceat
• Maine Aithreamhail
• Cairbre mac Maine Aithreamhail
• Cet mac Mágach

Munster
• Eterscél Mór 
• Eochaidh Mac Luchta
• Deaghadh mac Sin 
• Duach Dalta Deaghadh
• Dáire mac Dedad
• Cú Roí mac Dáire 
• Lugaid mac Cú Roí
• Conaire Mór 
• Foirbre

Leinster
• Nuadha Necht
• Fergus Fairrge
• Ross Ruadh
• Fionn File
• Conchobar Abradruad 
• Mesgegra 
• Mogh Corb: 
• Cú Chorb
• Nia Corb
• Cormac Gealta Gaoth
• Fedlimid Fiorurghlas
• Cathair Mór

 

-Cuarta idea: Usar todos los nombres de las tres ideas anteriores para la ia...

 

¿Qué opinan?

 

Disculpen las molestias*

Edited 1 hour ago by Duileoga

[Duileoga]

14 hours ago, Ultimate Aurelian said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For unit ranks i think you could have something like

Basic: No shirt, pants or loincloth. Plain shield

Advanced: Simple tunic without pants

Elite:Simple tunic with or without pants, cloak, painted shields.

Champions: Torcs, finer tunics with pants, finer cloaks, painted shields.  Perhaps headdress or some kind of leather/cloth armor for champions too.

-Siguiendo sus consejos ,críticas y referencias, esta es una corrección del catálogo de unidades:

Unidades-26
(Segunda idea)
 

infantería ligera :
(Reclutado en "C.C" y "Barracas")
1.Lancero hiberno:---------------------------------(Īwernī gaisatāros)
2.Escaramuzador hiberno:------------------------(Īwernī gablācos)
(Reclutado en  "Barracas") 
3.Astero hiberno:---------------------------------(Īwernī  tougāros)
4.Hondero hiberno:-------------------------------(Īwernī  telmisāros)
(Reclutado en "Galería de tiro")
2.Escaramuzador hiberno:------------------------(Īwernī gablācos)
4.Hondero hiberno:-------------------------------(Īwernī  telmisāros)

infantería pesada:
(Reclutados en "Promontorio costero")
5.Guerrero de banda de guerra------(Wēnyos)Garrote madera.Semi-desnudo y pinturas.
6.Amazona hiberna--------------------(Wēnā) Garrote , Uds max 20, con pinturas.
(garrote Bata)

infantería campeona:
(Reclutados en "Asamblea ritual")
7.Campeón hiberno---------------------(kawāros)telas lujosas,lanza larga o Pica
8.Aristócrata hiberno-------------------(Aryos)telas lujosas, venablos grandes
9.Carnyx hiberno------------------------(Karnos )trompeta y estoque (rapiers)

infantería auxiliar:
(Reclutados en "Anillo fortificado") 
10.Guerrero Ulaid-----------------------(Ulutos suwiros)hacha 
11.Guerrero Laigin----------------------(Legenion suwiros)espada 
12.Guerrero Nagnatae-----------------(Gnātos suwiros)Garrote arrojadizo/Cateia celta

caballería ligera:
(Reclutados en " Establo"y "C.C")
13.Jinete escaramuzador hiberno-------------------(Īwernī gablārēdos) 
(Reclutados en " Establo")
14.Jinete lancero hiberno-----------------------------(Īwernī gaisarēdos) 

caballería campeona
(Reclutados en "C.C", "Establo"y"Asamblea ritual " )
15.Sabueso de guerra----------------------------(kūna)
(Reclutados en "Asamblea ritual " )
16.Carruage de guerra hiberno-----------------(Īwernī  uɸorēdos) 2 caballos ,telas lujosas

civiles 
(Reclutados en " C.C"y"casas")
17.mujer hiberna-----------------------------(Īwernī benā)
(Reclutados en "Mercado ")
18.mercader-----------------------------------(kwennāios)1 caballo, carromato
(Reclutados en " Templo")
19.sacerdote----------------------------------(Druwidos)

Unidades marítimas 
(Reclutados en "Puerto" y "Promontorio costero") 
20.Pesquero ----------------------------------(Korukos eiskos) 
21.Mercante ----------------------------------(Longāwreikos ) 
22.Navío militar-------------------------------(Longākoryos) 

Asedio
(Reclutados en "Taller de asedio") 
23.Ariete.--------------------------------------(Retios toglāros) 

héroes:
(Reclutados en"Recinto ceremonial regio")
24.Túathal techtmar:----------------(Tuathar Teachtmhar) infnatería ,armadura de metal y corona.
25.Fíachu Finnolach :----------------(Fiacha Finnfolaidh)jinete  armadura de metal y casco.
26.Elim mac Conrach:----------------( )carruage 2 caballos,armadura de metal y casco

 

¿Qué opinan?

 

Disculpen las molestias*

[Ultimate Aurelian]

 

1 hour ago, Duileoga said:

-Pensé en eso y la primera idea; Sería colocar a la familia de Túathal y su dinastía.

(Foras Feasa ar Éirinn 100 a.c- 100 d.c)

Dinastía "Connachta "

• Túathal techtmal --------------------------( ) Alto rey Muy posible que existiera
• Eithne Imgel-------------------------------( ) Madre de Túathal (Princesa)
• Fíachu Finnolach---------------------------( )Padre de Túathal
• Báine Balbh--------------------------------( ) Esposa de Túathal (princesa)
• Fedelm Derg-------------------------------( ) Hija de Túathal (princesa)
• Dáirine--------------------------------------( ) Hija de Túathal (princesa)
• Fedlimid Rechtmar--------------------------( ) Hijo de Túathal
• Conn Cétchathach-------------------------( )  Nieto de Túathal

 

 

 

-La segunda idea: Es poner a los Altos Reyes de irlanda.

(Foras Feasa ar Éirinn 100 a.c- 100 d.c)

-Altos reyes:
• Eochaid Feidlech (94 a.C. – 82 a.C.)
• Eochaid Airem (82 a.C. – 67 a.C.)
• Eterscél (67 a.C. – 64 a.C.)
• Nuadu Necht (64 a.C. – 63 a.C.)
• Conaire Mór (63 a.C. – 33 a.C.)
• Lugaid Riab nDerg (33 a.C. – 13 a.C.)
• Conchobar Abradruad (13 a.C. – 12 a.C.)
• Crimthann Nia Náir (12 a.C. – 5 d.C.)
• Cairbre Cinnchait (5 d.C. – 10 d.C.)
• Feradach Finnfechtnach (10 d.C. – 32 d.C.)
• Fíatach Finn (32 d.C. – 35 d.C.)
• Fiacha Finnfolaidh (35 d.C. – 52 d.C.)
• Elim mac Conrach (52 d.C. – 72 d.C.)
• Tuathal Teachtmhar (72 d.C. – 102 d.C.)
 

 

 

-La tercera idea: Emplazar a los reyes "Aitheach Túatha"(reyes/tribus vasallos) o "Attacotti" (Vasallos).

(Foras Feasa ar Éirinn 100 a.c- 100 d.c)

Ulster
• Eochaid Sálbuide
• Fergus mac Róich
• Conchobar mac Nessa
• Cúscraid mac Conchobar
• Fíatach Finn
• Éllim mac Conrach
• Mal mac Rochride
•Congal Cláiringnech
•Ross Ruad
•Eochaid Sálbuide

Connacht
• Eochaid Feidlech
• Eochaidh Allat
• Tinni mac Conri
• Reina Medb 
• Ailill mac Máta
• Sanbh Sithcheann mac Ceat
• Maine Aithreamhail
• Cairbre mac Maine Aithreamhail
• Cet mac Mágach

Munster
• Eterscél Mór 
• Eochaidh Mac Luchta
• Deaghadh mac Sin 
• Duach Dalta Deaghadh
• Dáire mac Dedad
• Cú Roí mac Dáire 
• Lugaid mac Cú Roí
• Conaire Mór 
• Foirbre

Leinster
• Nuadha Necht
• Fergus Fairrge
• Ross Ruadh
• Fionn File
• Conchobar Abradruad 
• Mesgegra 
• Mogh Corb: 
• Cú Chorb
• Nia Corb
• Cormac Gealta Gaoth
• Fedlimid Fiorurghlas
• Cathair Mór

 

-Cuarta idea: Usar todos los nombres de las tres ideas anteriores para la ia...

 

¿Qué opinan?

 

Disculpen las molestias*

I think number 3 (high kings) might be better 

Although maybe the vassals could be included as well

Edited 42 minutes ago by Ultimate Aurelian

[Ultimate Aurelian]

1 hour ago, Duileoga said:

Buenos días o tardes;

-Les doy la razón , aunque mi nivel de inglés no es muy bueno, pido perdón por el mal entendido. Encontré esta otra arma, que si es de hierro , en español se llama Pico o Asta y es de madera y hierro;

¿Qué opinan?

 

 

Disculpen las molestias*

I think they might still be bronze  (but last one has lost color with age).

https://www.bladesmithsforum.com/index.php?/topic/41150-bronze-agehalberds-stabdolch-staffdaggerberło-sztyletowescepter-dagger/

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-uneticean-halberd-is-a-prehistoric-weapon-from-the-unetice-culture-140706092.html?imageid=C03632E4-2D98-4441-8EFE-BE92485E3D10&pn=1&searchId=5e99bb231a01012477d51a7e26e943ac&searchtype=9