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Well, for most of what you post I fail to see the relevance to 0 A.D. I mean it's a game not a simulation so the images of the tools or how they extract salt isn't relevant. When it comes to the things that might be more relevant I will have to let the history guys take a closer look as I don't know enough to be able to see what could use being changed. From a quick look, and my extremely limited knowledge of the Celts, it seems like a lot of your images confirm that what we're doing is correct (the wall they're building in one of the images [the one with the caption "Construction d'un mur gaulois"] looks very much like the one in 0 A.D. for example).

There could be things that are easier to spot in the linked documents, but I don't speak French so that doesn't help me :) Nor do most of the team, we do have a programmer from France but I don't think he's got time to go through those documents, so if you'd state what you think is wrong/could be improved that would be appreciated. :D

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Even though some of the things you posted aren't directly applicable to 0 A.D., they are definitely interesting and I'm sure the team historians will appreciate this information even more than I do. Because most of the people on the team don't speak french, it would be helpful if you (or someone else for that matter :D) paraphrased the information most applicable to 0 A.D.. Excellent work! :)

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Hello,

Thanks guys :)

To feneur, I posted the pictures of the salt mine and others production centers to give an example of the means which the Celts used to work. And if the Celtic walls are rights, the Gallic houses are wrongs. In Gaul the houses are not "round". I know, in Britannia many houses were rounds but the Gaul is really different. You can see those pictures:

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7138/qu...sanaldebibr.jpg

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1791/ferm...ifiedepaule.jpg

And for the armament, in French we have a specialist (André Rapin) and he made a great job on the Celtic continental weapons but to the Britannic Celts, I don't know any specialist. Barry Cunliff has made a poor work on the weapons. You can read the first link of my previous post, it's a summary of a work of André Rapin. Just a question, your Celts are of which period? The Gallic Wars?

The pictures of the French comic book show a battle between Senones and Bellovaci in 230BC.

And now, I make a word of thanks to all those people who work on this game. You make a GREAT job, good luck guys!

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Ok, I guess I was a bit harsh now that I read it again, sorry for that.

I'm sure we could get some new house models (I even think Michael has got that planned, it's just that the modelers are busy with other things at the moment).

As for the weapons, I guess I'm not interested enough to tell different swords etc from each other, so I'll let the team members who are more interested in that kind of details reply in more detail about it. In general I guess that the small models in our game aren't detailed enough to show too small differences, but if you find any major things (like a certain unit type not being used in the time period etc) please tell us.

As for which period, I don't know exactly, but in general we try and depict the civilizations at their top. I hope someone with more knowledge on the Celts can tell you more exactly what time period we mean, but it's somewhere between 500 BC and 0 A.D. I assume you know that already however, but thought I should mention it in case you weren't aware.

(Another thing that I'm sure you know is that as this is a game we sometimes have to simplify things, but don't let that stop you from suggesting improvements. We might not be able to implement it the exact way you want us to, but it may still improve the game in another way. If nothing else we're educated and know more :) )

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Great pictures, Genava55, thank you for sharing that with us. Personally almost everything I knew about the Gauls until I saw your post was from Asterix :D

I really liked the comic strip, I don't understand a lot of French but I liked lines like "Encore un effort!". :)

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As for the weapons, I guess I'm not interested enough to tell different swords etc from each other, so I'll let the team members who are more interested in that kind of details reply in more detail about it. In general I guess that the small models in our game aren't detailed enough to show too small differences, but if you find any major things (like a certain unit type not being used in the time period etc) please tell us.

Okay, I know for the too smalls details.

For the types of warriors, I can say that the Gallic used at least three types of javelins. A short javelin with a great blade, used by the heavy infantry to pierce the shields. A middle javelin, which can be used as spear, used by the light infantry. And a light javelin thrown by a thin strap of leather, used by the skirmisher and which can reach 80 meters.

The elite warrior used a large shield, a spear and a sword. He carried a helmet and either a leather armor or a chain mail. He is generally in first line and he is followed by warriors less equipped (no armor and no helmet) but with a longer lance. The stripped/naked troops are generally troops of fast attacks, they use javelins and spear (and sometimes sword). Their shields are lighter.

For the cavalry, in Gaul, they have no round shield. The cavalry of the Gallic War was entirely made of aristocrats.

If you want see the equipment:

www.archeoart.org

Some examples of shield:

http://www.archeoart.org/bou-v4.html#

A example of leather armor:

http://www.archeoart.org/cuirv2.html#

A great blade of spear:

http://www.archeoart.org/ah-v6.html#

A normal blade of spear:

http://www.archeoart.org/ah-v1.html#

A sword and scabbard (all the Gallic swords have iron scabbard):

http://www.archeoart.org/ef-v10.html#

http://www.archeoart.org/ef-v9.html#

really liked the comic strip, I don't understand a lot of French but I liked lines like "Encore un effort!"

I am content that you like that. :) If you want translate the French, you can use: http://www.systranet.fr

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The Gaulish martial vocabulary (source: Gaulish Dictionnary)

- Atectos (peasant)

- Acuadreti (fast skirmisher, with light javelin which can reach 80 meters)

- Batoros (striker)

- Gaisatos (javelinman)

- Talmori (slinger)

- Saitoros (bowman)

- Anandogna (foreigner)

- Andogna (native)

- Bagauda (peasant-warrior)

- Iouincos (young warrior)

- Excingos (attacker, litt."out of the troop")

- Bariouic (angry warrior)

- Ambactos ("servants" => guard)

- Cingetos (warrior)

- Uercingetos (super-warrior)

- Solduros (elite guard)

- Argos (hero, champion)

- Comargos (fighting comrade)

- Arios (prince, noble)

- Cauaros (giant, hero)

- Corionos (war chief)

- Corios (army)

- Brennos (général)

- Gaisaredos (mounted javelinman, on a horse)

- Essedon (chariot)

- Eporedia (cavalry)

- Eporedos (cavalryman)

- Rigeporedia (royal cavalry)

- Nauson (ship)

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