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Hi , Im working on .... Carthage : 7 players of 50 pop limit --> 6 districts + 1 army of 50 mercenary champs VS Rome : 1 player of 500 pop limit mostly invading by sea (like survival of fittest) + nubians troops coming from desert I'm using the elevation terrain hack to put some buildings on top of others and make them look like merged in order to have unique structures (below, the 5 houses produces those 5 females with no evacuation problem) Rome will invade with RAMS, but will not be able to crush the Carthage walls everywhere (terrain elevation as unbreakable wall and platform for bolt-lozaa ) If Rome is in the walls .. Some places will be used to make good retreats for those 5 noobs Gauls, Athenians, Iberians, all different but their HATE of Rome on their face Even if the map could be used to be playable, i want to go into the new camera function in 0ad22 to make great cinematics in the narrow streets of carthage during invasion action . (to make a SUPER promotional trailer of 0ad) Also, for the sake of global interests, it would be nice to have a 3D map of carthage which could be used , i.e , for any TV documentary For this, Carthage has to be fulled with contents to give it a living appareance. FEEL FREE to WORK on it and make updates on this thread the pmp https://ufile.io/6vgn1 the xml https://ufile.io/xwqlc

A map I made. Rome attacks Carthage. The End. Please give any feedback/advice. Carthage_Rome.xml Carthage_Rome.xml

The iberian mercenary Skrmisher, can shoots flaming proyectiles here i get the tvidence, i know that i can mod the ibearian skrmisher, but the flaming javelin would be the default weapon https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batalla_de_Cannas#Equipamiento

Is a fact that Carthage used towered elephants on the zama battle "the fail was that carthage used teen and untamed elephants", with seleucid appereance, but carthaginian style this is my evidence http://bet-ilim.blogspot.de/2012/01/military-of-ancient-canaan.html

I think that a bright idea is give to the Carthage faction the powerful war chariots "potenicialized by numidian horses" representating the use of carthage of this units, therrefore fact i was moodded my 0AD inslation adding artificcialy the chariots aviable on 0AD, and comparing the results to the "wikipedia", i tries these chariots: * Carbanto "Fail" * Mauryan Chariot "Fail" * Persian Calvary Archer "Perfect", we on a eventually carthage chariot, we must use it as a chariot "only replace the persian logos for Carthaginian logos" this is my source for want and ask for it https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ej%C3%A9rcito_de_Cartago Although illustrations found Punic war chariots , are reliefs of Phoenician and Cypriot vehicles , which can take similar - if not identical. The chariots were used in Cyprus at the beginning of V century . C. , 100 Punic design apparently , but at the same time ceased to be used for the rest of the griegos.101 There are many representations in terracotta Cypriot car from seventh to sixth centuries . C. , also have been discovered remains of royal carriages of Salamis in Cyprus , dating from the mid - seventh to eighth century . C. Also have been representations of real cars or currency sacred Sidon Sidonians V century a. C. The Phoenician goldsmiths the seventh and eighth . C. is also a prolific source of images of chariots. Parts of Punic war chariots found in the Iberian Peninsula ( c. eighth century . C. ) , as well as illustrations on them, recorded in tombs also Iberian soil , can confirm their employment in foreign campaigns of Carthage. According to these data , the Punic cars had a similar style , both in construction and combat tactics , the Assyrian chariots the seventh and eighth . C. (eg control cars were distinguished in the field by umbrellas ) . Recent chariots of Salamis and Lift models had dual shaft to yoke four horses , modeled Assyrian . This would be the Punic truck model IV century . C. Diodorus mentions moving to Sicily from 300 chariots , horses over 2000 pairs of "reserve" 102 during the war against Dionysius I of Syracuse . During the expedition of 341 . C. against Timoleon , the chariots Carthaginian army moved forward and played a decisive role for rejecting a surprise attack by the Syracusan cavalry , commanded by Damareto on Punic troops crossing the river Crimiso . The mobility of cars, equipped with blades on the wheels, broke up and pushed back the Syracusan cavalry . To counter the onslaught of such vehicles, attacked frontally Timoléon elite troops , defeated and captured 200 chariots . In the early fighting following the invasion of Africa ( 310 a.) By the tyrant Agathocles of Syracuse, the Punic army lined up to 2000 cars and 1000 horsemen against the Syracusans , who had no mounted troops . Despite such a disproportion of forces, the initial charge of the cavalry and chariots crashed against enemy infantry , which minimized the impact of riders and vehicles. Added to that , the archers and slingers harassed them with launches massive missile , forcing them to retreat on its own infantry , destroying it . The chariot stopped Carthaginian widely used after this season , but during the punic wars was be used! here i have a photography! i think that we can put the Persian Calvary Archer b this unis has the best appereance for it!, and we only need delete the persian icons, and put carthaginian icons!

Syntagma and Phalanx are associatted with: * Grreks * Macedonia * Diadochi but there is a none-heenistic state that uses this formations, Cartage, since Jantipus' reforms, he get the phalanx and syntagma formations for Carthage, Sehir Hanit as Holipites, Sacred Band of Baal, as Spartaties "Jantipus was born in Sparta", Chariots aside "after numidian calvary" after Cartage during punic wasa mantatin this formatins with a few changes, on left ranged units "numidian, calvary, iberian mercenaries", and on the right the "heavy units": * Swordmen: Samnites and Celts * and on the "rightest" side of army the calvary "iberian and celt", and the true side left the Sacred Band of Astarte a few images about the "phalanx on carthage" my evidence is: http://bet-ilim.blogspot.de/2012/01/military-of-ancient-canaan.html

I think the the towered elephants on the Alpha 15 of 0AD, must be add to carthaginian faction i gonna explain! the reazon: Carthage all the time buies Towered Elephants to Ptolomeaic Empire!, in fact dirung the 1 and 2 punic wars this units was of the most important unit for Carthage, this unit caouldn't be used as shock unit, the most common use of is unit is shoot Arrows Stones and Javelins, but this unit isn't weak for the "face-to-face fight", because for this combat has: The elephant itself, and a "panopila" with the same armour of the hellenic holipites but mounted on the elephant this is my source! https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ej%C3%A9rcito_de_Cartago We can use as base for this unit the "ptolomeaic" towered elephant

0AD's Carthage faction is good, but Carthage need more types of units, with these units Carhage gonna be perfect, this is my source, ecuseme is in spanish, but explains all units! https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ej%C3%A9rcito_de_Cartago "cheapers" Panopila: With the same aromour of sacred band of baal, but were libyo-phenician soldiers, we can put a button to train this inits but with less cost, as the carthage embassies: * Reduce recuit time 30% * Reduce Metal Cost 30%? Libyan calvary, with the same armour of the sacred bans of astarte, we can put a button to train this inits but with less cost, as the carthage embassies: * Reduce recuit time 30% * Reduce Metal Cost 30%? Units * Lonchophoroi, javalinists with tha same appereance of the libyan spearman, but were javelinists!, no spearmen! Iberian Infantry, here Iberian Swordsman And Add the Flaming Javelin, "Carthage and Iberians" Special weapons Elephants, ;ore tyes of elephants:: * Ranged Elephant, with Javelinists and Archers * Crush Elephant, for the direct attack, as an ancient "tank". Carthage in this moments has this unit, only we put Ranges Elephant, maur ranger elephant but a few smaller" Chariots: Chariots with phoenician "Here Carthage's" design were find on iberian peninsula, and used by Carthage during the wars aganist Dionisius I of Siracusa, and the wars with the "magna greece" cities, and in the iberian peninsula's invasion, and even during the first and second punic wars Siege weapons: "Turtle-Style Ram" Carthage modifies the ram adding protection and more speed, we could put a roman ram but with carthage simbols! "Assult towers" Carthage had towrs with assault soldiers and siege weapons!, we can put this weapon very expensive but very powerful, and with many units for garrisson, with a design similar to the famous macedonian helepola, but here we can garrrison: *Catapults * Ranged Units * Javelinists "iberian flaming javelinist" * Rams Please excuseme that the source is in spanish, but here we can find more information about it https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ej%C3%A9rcito_de_Cartago