Enarwaen
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no prob tim
if you have further questions - feel free to PM me
-bernd
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@Tim
you might want to check this link
helped me when setting up my router
and i would not choose to go the DMZ-way - is IMO too insecure.
just enable Port Forwarding to your local ip adress of your computer.
-bernd
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Taur-nu-Fuin
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Melkor
(we should make a new rule that we cannot use the same term within the last say 30 posts ?)
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@Michel
yep thats true - though in PJ's version i would also have prefered Legolas instead of Arwen
but then Bakshi might have sued him for another similiar scene ("Proudfoot" and the first Nazgûl encounter are PJ's nods toward Bakshi's version) -
@Sukkit
you can give yourself the animated overkill with this triple bundle from amazon.com
it contains
Bakshi's Lord of the Rings
The Hobbit (by Rankin-Bass)
The Return of the King (by Rankin-Bass)
The Hobbit is the "most" acceptable" of the three - apart from little details that Bilbo looks like caffeine addict, Elrond has a halo around his head, Orcs look like mutated frogs and Smaug has a distinct asian influence ... and the Elves of Thranduil look ... hmm ... how to put it ... strange
The Return of the King is the worst of all - not only do we get classic songs like the Orcs: "Where's a whip - there's a way" but also the battle scenes are painstakingly detailed (some dust covering the screen and some black dots are buzzing around ... could be an anthill during a sandstorm
) but also the dialogue is priceless.so if you have some (twisted) humor you'll have to get these - best watch it with other purists (and some
) - i always did this in preparations for PJ's films.suilad
-Bernd
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well for me its not the RPG that is described in the text, but merely the fact that this Tolkein guy got to write the book-adaption of Peter Jackson's masterpiece movie-trilogy and *dared* to completely change the plot and invent silly persons like this Bom Tombadil and other ridiculous stuff.
And our beloved Elven princess even does not save Frodo from the Black Riders! Its some unknown male Elf call Glowfindus. how strange is that. I threw the book away in disgust and watched both theatrical versions of Fotr and TTT instead.
-bernd
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heh good find!
i dimly remember (and now fresh in mind since i read the TAB-site) that also another early draft the Balrog of Moria was originally to be a Nazgûl.
count that in as another interesting tidbit
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i just found another snippet in HoME vol.12 (Peoples of Middle-earth)
In another passage, Tolkien gives other names for the Blue Wizards, "Morinehtar" and "Romestamo" ("Darkness-slayer" and "East-helper"), and suggests that the Blue Wizards came to Middle-earth in the Second Age (much earlier than the other Istari) in the company of Glorfindel. In this text things look a tad brighter:
They must have had very great influence on the history of the Second Age and Third Age in weakening and disarraying the forces of East ... who would both in the Second Age and Third Age otherwise have ... outnumbered the West. -
happy bday mate - live long and prosper
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@Khazun
you'd need to identify the exact time of print of your books. usually its printed on the first few pages. if its anywhere older than 1960 your can consider yourself lucky
but ... to my knowledge there haven't been any one-volume LotR-books in the fifties and sixties. also the silmarillion was only released in 1980 i think.
you'd better check the "date of print" on the inside
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Music of the Ainur
(/me notices that we are going in circles - sort of)
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WHAT??? No Scouring of the Shire??? WHAT???
The Scouring was never meant to be in the movies from the beginning. the only nod we got was Frodo's "vision" of the Shire in the Mirror of Galadriel. this information is quite old ... i first heard about it back in 1998 or 1999 - cant remember. so its no use whining about it
its also mentioned in the directors commentary on FotR:EE@topic
well i'm looking forward to the EE, atleast then it will be a complete movie for me - not some cut down half baked jumble of scenes.
suilad
-Bernd
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lol well there goes my hypothesis.
But letter 210 I believe is in response to the animated film.
Or was it a different one I am thinking of?
Zimmerman was the name of the guy who made it and it would have come out about 1958.
Or am I very confused and this film was never made because of Tolkien's qualms?
not only that - i guess that script by Zimmerman still rots in "development-hell".
EDIT - I think I am confused here.Am I mixing the Ralph Bakshi film with the one that Tolkien talks about in the letter?
And if so - does this film that Tolkien talks about exist?
no - this one never saw the light of day - never got greenlighted.
Ralph Bakshi's version has got nothing to do w/ Zimmerman's script. Bakshi began writing his LotR around 1976. he even visited Tolkien's daughter in Britain.
here is an interview with the man.
And the Balrog is ... err ... quite unscary
a mutated lion w/ butterfly wings *ahem* ... but you might want to check it out adam - if for no more than satisfying your curiosity ... its really ... well ... special and for a humorous review of Bakshi's "masterpiece" go here
and don't get me started on the other animated classics by Rankin-Bass (The Hobbit and Return of the King)
suilad
-Bernd
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happy bday Cougar !!!
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Ezellohar
@Adam: yeah ... try to think of the word as a german word (where 'tele' comes close to television ...
... it caught me quite unaware the first time i stumbled upon Celeborns 'other' name ; ) -
(keen observers will see the subtle similarities between Tuor's house emblem and Hador's house emblem, of which Tuor was a member )
yes - i immediately noticed that once i cleaned my glasses
a nice and subtle detail
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Teleporno
(hope the word filter doesn't delete this)
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Caras Galadhon
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excellent work adam! this truly is a worthy representation of Gondolin's houses.
me likey !
suilad
-Bernd
edit: i'm changing my allegience from Falathrim to the House of the Swan Wing
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my best guess is the the Blue Wizards (also known under their valinorean names of Pallando and Alatar) opened up a the most successful nightclub east of the Hithaeglir called the "Ithryn Luin" and after the fall of Sauron it was opened up to all the party-people from the western hemisphere, too
nah seriously - there is nothing much known about their fate, save that Saruman ventured w/ them into they east but returned alone.
The Essay on the Istari in the Unfinished Tales says: "whether they remained in the East, pursuing there the purposes for which they were sent; or perished; or as some hold were ensnared by Sauron and became his servants, is not not known."
'I think they went as emissaries to distant regions, East and South, far out of Numenorean range: missionaries to enemy-occupied lands, as it were. What success they had I do not know; but I fear that they failed, as Saruman did, though doubtless in different ways; and I suspect they were founders or beginners of secret cults and "magic" traditions that outlasted the fall of Sauron.' (Letters, p. 280).
you might want to check out Tolkiens essay about the "Heren Istarion" (the Order of the Wizards) in the Unfinished Tales.
suilad
-Bernd
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Amdír
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ey Rod - we could do that sometime. but first i'll have to find my aok cd's first and install it again on my new 'puter.
and i hope i still remember some keyboard shortcuts *g*
but it would be fun to have a go at that w/ you
cheers
-bernd
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or at least as a cheat unit
Tolkien word association
in The Green Dragon
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