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is there a way to make a triangle, behind enemy, that prevents your ranged unit from shooting behind the said enemy? how demanding would this be computationally? i mean lets say 30 degree triangle, i guess for 400 units ud need something like 400*400 calculations times 2. point being no sniping, giving mele real value.

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fifth one: metadata.json commands.txt sixth one: metadata.json commands.txt

i will post separately, because for some reason comands and metadata can be attached only separately and different ones get mixed up sometimes. 1st one: metadata.json commands.txt second one: metadata.json commands.txt third one: metadata.json commands.txt fourth one: metadata.json commands.txt

no i have not tried delenda Est.

Bing back SLAVES.

I deleted the discord, had like 60 ppl but inactive.

how do you guys do the .zip upload? i can only do commands.txt + metadata.json separately, and sometimes they get mixed up if i upload 2 games at once i think. chris vs vinme 0/2 commands.txt metadata.json commands.txt metadata.json

maybe you are getting smarter, so much so that your perspective on my writing changes

Pff, no one is as good as chrstgr, he is undeniably n4 and everyone knows it.

check again

i dont even know the biome names lol since they changed it all and added 50 different biomes but ill assume you are questioning the viability of having smaller groups on a low wood map. about maps with thoes larger trees, scattered around thoes maps are largely broken, insofar as cav get a huge multiplier in value for obvious already stated reasons, and such rarely played maps are never balanced/fair for all civs, generally these maps favour certain civs, so ppl should pick these civs, or for a challenge play a badly fitting one. for example naval maps favor civs like athen, with its op hero that is still rarely used or iber with the fireships, ect. about maps with any amount of cuttable wood, consider getting baskets(+5) from storehouse as this reduces walktime, and allows for far higher concentration of units per woodline, abeit the woodline runs out sooner, then you move them to the next one, this allows ofc for larger groups on woodlines. in 1v1 consider, that carthage requires a significant amount of time from investing start point > arriving with swordcav on your property. this nessesitates that if one wants to start massing swordcav, one must p2 earlier as starting swordcav vis p2 ing at the conventional time, would lead you to engage the atack at basically a point when enemy is p3,or going p3, which is already too late, you can hardly mass swordcav if you cant deal damage as you STACK them, as this would be to inneficient to just mass 5 by 5 as all of them idle. i usually p2 start at around 80-110 pop from what i recall and this allows me to atack enemy when their pop is far higher, not sure at what point but ill guess 120-160? i believe objectively valis nub 45 pop p2 build is.. nub. he has beaten many players with it purely because of the skill gap, conpensating for the builds disadvantage. if enemy atacks you at that point, with 3 swordcav they have pretty much killed themselves, unless they click faster than you in which case they win either way eventually. you should always have, unless enemy severely stunts their eco, more than 30 men to atack with, you can make 1 tower on woodline and palaside it off, if you really dont want him atacking your woodline with his cav(depending on cav count perhaps more towers are justified), or move to cc wood, ofc keep few men back to garison cc either way. yes standard defense strategy against inf rush is generally very viable if done perfectly, but inf rushes(given superior men count) should not be underestimated. p2 towers require enough time to build that if you see them, you can prevent them with ease with a larger army, p1 towers arent as strong, there are many many targets you can have, assuming he garisons his baracs, embassies, there are still houses and now he has less men as each barac would need 10 not to get cauptured(lets say you atack at 130 pop, with 70 men, blacksmith techs ranged, pierce, mele) you should be able to do a significant amount of damage, if playing properly and not wasting time, ofc most important aspect here is pre scouting so you know his layout, his woodlines, ect. if he sees you coming towers can still be captured, you should have a significant enough advantage given he will have far less men, and not enough swordmercs(if you atack asap when he starts massing), still thought 0ad is largely about luck so it can go either way. keep in mind lets say sword/jav have like 15-20% advantage if not more vs spear/archer in a direct fight, let alone at a surplus when advantage becomes geometric. all women should be able to garrison given houses give 10/6 ratio of pop/garison capability, if you have at least 40% of your pop as men(and you should have at least 50% when inf rushing ) you should be able to garrison all women, assuming everything is towered(not that expensive just woodline basically, 1-2 towers more than enough usually) towers protecting eachother, some within cc arrow range. palasides around fields should come after a certain amount of cav is seen, maybe 8 swordcav, and should cost minimal amount of wood as in a25 fields are extremely vunerable and you should have it largely walled off with buildings, thereofre more than 100-200 wood for palasides shouldnt be nessesary. yes large wood biomes are bad for cav rushes. atacker does have the efficiency advantage on micro/macro/stamina as they know what they are doing, when the action will happen while defender must process within a second or 2 what to do, then react to this suprise, while maintaining macro(eco) and this puts stress on stamina more so than atacking.

ppl have noted the spearmans inability to force an engage, this is as it should be, the main point is that the swords cant engage spearmen(assuming equal cost accounting for civ specialty, metal scarcity/minining inneficiencies, ect, ect.), yes mixing in ranged units is essential, depending on the size of the enemy army, usually more cav=more spearmen, even upto 60% spearmen comp i believe. one of the main issues, i feel is completely useless and worthless spear cav, that just barely beat sword cav in 1v1 from what i recall, and jav cav as well, very insiginficant advantage, even less of an advantage in larger group fights as ranged units get an advantage of being able to atack at once, as enemy moves through, and around the living obstacles. and even after all of this, spear cav are totally useless vs anything but cav. i recomend boosting spear cav atack damage somewhere inbetween their current atack damage, and sword cav damage. lets say change atack rate from 1.25 to 1 (this would boost dps by 20%) and reduce multiplier to like 1.5 or something.

the part about ranged accuracy per rank up is interesting, how many times have you tested this? 0ad fights are extremely random, even 50 vs 50 equal fights can go either way with drastic variations, unless tested like 10-15 times and averaged out i wouldnt trust a result 100%. also i was pretty sure probably bad accuracy could be good in large fights like 100 vs 100 as the misses could hit adjacent enemy unit, avoiding overkill but now that i think about it your result seems more accurate and i assume dead units will still have projectiles pass through them, giving same result of mis shots potentially hitting nearby enemies.

whats wrong with having extreme weak and strong points balancing each other out? is that not the point of the game? if there are no variations of stats, factors, ect then its no longer fun, then civs lose their uniqueness ect. also it is not a one trick pony, carthage also has avalible to it other mercs sword inf merc, jav merc, sling merc all with superior stats altho ranged ones largely useless accuracy boost given p2 battles are too large and bad accuracy is probably even benefitial. spear cav mercs are rarely used but also there. also carth has elephants as well as all other siege, 2 great heroes and spear champs from temple. while some of these things are all not as signficant without these things the only sword merc cav advantage wouldnt be enough to make carth viable.

they are a specialty, unit, just skimmed thru the dev thing dizaka started, they have no idea what they are talking about and im too tired/disinterested to adress every point , and argue over it since it would take hours. ill adress only 2 points made. 1: 10 vs 10 spear vs sword mercs spearmen die, so that must mean sword merc cavs are op. 2: sword merc cav almost beat skiritai commando, or are similar in strength so sword merc cavs are op. first of all merc cav swords are a specialty unit, jsut like skiritai, that are only avalible p2, as all sword cav. you have to take into account taht only a single civ has these units, carthage, no other civ has sword merceneries, and most civs have trouble massing cav merceneries given the production buildings cost too much like colonies 600, need to walk ,separate, to protect must spread out units ect. carthage has extremely weak build, other than mercs, that is their SPECIALTY so ofc they must excell at it, as it is rn pikes are op, and sword inf are viable as well in inf battles, but spear inf is the weakest mele infantry right now, archers have become very weak again in a25, not as bad as a23 but not far from it. carthage objectively even with this great unit sword merc cav is not even in top 5 strongest civs, everyone knows this as the cons balance out the pros. 10 spear shouldnt be able to beat a SPECIALTY unit that requires metal(so metal techs), additional production buildings(200 res), and should be a stronger version of regular cav. keep in mind regular cav cost 1500 res for 10 unlike 1000 for spear. i do believe 80 metal seems odd given 100/60 ratio of inf mercs then 60% of 150 is 90 but keep in mind that metal is expensive to mine compared to wood 0.75/0.5 so 50% more gain on wood than metal(less efficient, requires men for proper efficiency unlike wood/food that can be cut/gathered by women). and metal is more scarce than wood/food on standard maps. so a civ SPECIALTY unit (stronger than 1500 costing standard counterpart) can beat 1000 costing standard counter units? nothing wrong with that. 2: sword merc cav can almost beat skiritai commando? that is not appropriate, but this is an issue with sparta balancing more so than it is about carthage balancing, also do keep in mind that sword cav, or cav in general are the direct counter to sword inf, given their high hack armor added with high dps/hp although sword cav hav 1 less hack armor than spear cav it has to be kept in mind that cav hitpoints mainly come from hp, unlike mele where it often largely comes from armor therefore 3 hack is high for cav, even if it is low for inf. 80 costing unit, that has far less traintime, and has far far superior movement speed(highly valuable stat) shouldnt be able to beat 125 costing unit(altho only small part of it is metal (35)) given they are both specialty units unique to their own civs. to finish up i wanna mention 2 things. first of all cav are generally far stronger in tgs, because of the large map movement speed stat appericates in value, as well as multiple targets, with far more openings for entry, atack, manuvering. ability to move your power quickly is very viable and complete lack of cooperation and coordination of teams only excacerbates this. secondly if carthage cant do damage with this, 1 tool they have they are finished often given they mass a large amount, there are ways to counter carthage cav, and most other civs have equal or superior advantages/specialties. other mercs are lagely underused, and i feel the res avalibility factor would come into play more so if people played more defensively, where accumulating float would be nessesary before a fight as to sustain training units but this wont happen a25 i think given extremely weak buildings, there are usually too many openings to close to turtule/play strategically and not agressively where larger army/better eco wins by default as you cant avoid fights if your defensive buildings deal less dps than archers, with 0 tech. often people dont get mele damage upgrades, and hack armor upgrades which can give upto 50% advantage to carth sword cavs, often people dont secure farms via walling off, vision and men nearby, have spread out disorganized buildings,spread out disorganized units that are eazy to pick off. you cannot run from mele cavalry, they are too fast so you often cant avoid lost fights, only solution is to have large enough groups. try atacking carth player directly , if they are massing sowrd cav, as they will likely have a very weak base defended by archer/spear

i see, as i thought its prob a bug/problem in the game. Perhaps some mod we use is messing it up? autociv, feldmod is what i have rn.

controll+left click to atack move, often controll doenst register, units just move ofc causing gg. has anyone had this problem before? i keep checking the key im pressing right after it doesnt work, and it is indeed controll so not a mistake on that part.

it works now, get direct download guys if you dont wanna waste time.

"corrupted installer?" error i had gotten a torrent now getting direct download

keeps getting stuck at 63% zip ill try to re-re-download

dont remember a game in which you made palasides vs me.(not saying it didnt happen im sure it did) either way i think palasides are fine, yes swordcav are op but thats separate topic. palasides are really cheap, 14 cav is 2100 res +stable, ect unless mercs which is a civs specialty so it being op is fine(altho i think mercs rly op a25). so 100-250 wood palasides that are instant to build couldnt stop 2100 + 300 + buildtime+ tranitme alone? seems fine to me, only mele can effectively get thru palasides at such speed because of low hack armor from what i recall. have some men around to chase the cav away from palasides is the best solution i can think of. use palasides as buffer, ez to repair too im sure if he retreats. usually when you have men in minerals its not nearly enough time to send them to help farms especially if farms around farmstead so the palasides should give a good amount of several sec, worst case he kills palaside, runs away, you repair hole in 5 sec with 3 men or something and 10 wood. to end this spear cav are horrible terrible unusable barely viable vs other cav even with 1.75X .

i believe in you @KerlMarx ! if you can ride a horse in water while wearing no shirt im sure you can be best 0ad player this is just basic maths.

update: few more ddoses. whats interesting is hamdichs host was getting ddosed, he didnt go down so then i started getting ddosed(not host, player) so because he didnt go donw to stop ppl from playing it started ddosing me as well. also if you dont rejoin game, you dont get ddosed but if you do rejoin then ddos continues.