MarcusAureliu#s

Good i sign you up as single registration team then @chrstgtr @Unknown_Player ? @itrelles @Havran

@Unknown_Player @itrelles @Havran first one can take open spot in team of fpre me and lordcommander eae. I think you could make nice team witch @chrstgtr actually

@Havran @chet @itrelles you can register with team or as single person ( we make team of all singles ) in sign up thread or look for team members in finding team member thread.

I will add that, thx

Hey, also lower tier players can participate there are just no limits on them, dont be shy ask for teammates

@borg-, @Pachamama, @Unknown_Player @chrstgtr

stop public shaming pls

I register team May God containing @ffffffff (fpre), @Lord_Commander and @MarcusAureliu#s ( Marc Aurel). eaeaeaeeae and @chrstgtr has been force recruited

@Stockfish

I dont have a team yet. Suggest team names pls Edit: Lord_Commander in, we search for other not so noob team members

Look for Teammates here. Ask questions here or write me in forum or lobby Current Tier List mostly by Phyzik, give suggestions in thread in General Discussion ( intrest in team tournament) or if you are certain add directly to list as comment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b5XhFiMvEzd1SSQwG5_5n-tCeIoWMYEKEUkbAsMGIzA/edit?usp=sharing

Sign Up Thread for the 0 AD TG League Current Tier List mostly by Phyzik, give suggestions in thread in General Discussion ( intrest in team tournament) or if you are certain add directly to list as comment: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b5XhFiMvEzd1SSQwG5_5n-tCeIoWMYEKEUkbAsMGIzA/edit?usp=sharing Look for Teammates here: https://wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?/topic/28144-0-ad-leauge-team-findint-thread/ Vote here for teambalance rules change http://www.strawpoll.me/20185437 You may sign up as single player and we make balanced teams of all that signed up that way Also i would be intrested to know who does 0 AD Social media and could make a post to encourage players to participate and add notification to Lobby. ( If you know please contac that person or tell me who i can contact. Everyone encourage people to participate ! regsitered teams: May Gods - fpre, MarcAurel, Lord_Commander, randomid, nani Dakara, esu, Metafondations, Dakeyras eae em: Badosu, Stockfish, Borg , Vicentesk ValihrAnt, Phyzic, Issh, Edwarf, aow Los Gringos: chrstgtr, Rauls, SaidRdz, Ricsand, Camelius Boudica, UnknownPlayer, Havran, go2die, Wendy OPTeam: LeGendz, Rolandsc2, bubblebut, SuperPosition, DoctorOrgans Players that are (probably) in but have no team yet: Boudica, Rauls, Havran ? chrstgtr ? Unknown Player, go2die, solooyo, jeromescherer, Itrelles, LeGendz I suggest for balance: t1: @Boudica @Unknown_Player, @Havran, @go2die ( as @Boudica suggested) And then have second team with @rauls @chrstgtr), @LeGenDz, @itrelles and @soloooy0. more teams in the making If you like you can upload a team logo

How about extra points for both teams for full team sizes and trust in individual agreements ? There are many free tools in the internt that allow finding the best time

I count on your help for the 0 AD Team League tier list

i appreciate your thoughts, but consider if you make time brackets you have only half the matches and if you have weaker bracket you have advantage. I think we should first let teams register and then see how the timing can be done bc now we can only speculate

Right now we have 3 tiers and the system is kinda the same, wheter with points or player limits. I think with 4 tiers it will get even more difficult to classifie players as there will be many, maybe also relatively new players. Also i dont really see the point in limiting tier 4 players as most players who can play on somewhat competitive level and are intrested to join the tournament will be like tier 4 anyway i guess

Thanks for putting in all the thought. Every player who is willing to get involved in setting tiers is welcome to join Phyzic in doing so. It is good though to have a authority on this to prevent endless arguments. For the issue of finding time i had the following concern doing something like you proposed: If you give a large timeframe and every team has to select like 2 hours within it is rather unlikely at some point that the time frames matches the opponents, same as when you define time zones ( as each team has to play against each team) and it will be alot of work to organize it that way. I chose 19.00 CET Sunday bc it was the time when Sunday Pro Games took place, and also Sunday is when most people are free. Also it kinda sucks to wait like 3 hours for the opponent team to show up. It also serves the purpose of not punishing the teams that actually have time, but their opponent cant find any time frame. I see endless arguments incoming without a basic rule. I admit that making the individual agreement work involves good will by all teams and a competitive mindset of players to find a solution that provides the biggest game. Maybe we could encourage using tools like doodle for finding out what is the best time for both teams. I thought about punishing both teams for playing a 2v2 to encourage finding a compromise but it seems a bit unfair for the larger team members who freed up time to be able to play when other team players just dont show up. Also it encourages 4 player teams.

I see the issue that it makes team finding to complicated and it needs extra rules for 3 player teams and so on. If not all the teams have the exact same strength i dont see a huge problem. Its basically that way in every sports league. As long as some level of competitiveness is given and there are some close matches its fine in my opinion.

Also i think we can try the more advanced tier system first, and open for registration, and if we see there are too many difficulties to get a decent number of teams participating we could adapt the rules. For example we could say : not more then 1 player of category 1 in team, not more than 2 players category 1, 2 not more than 3 players 1,2,3, not more than 2 players of category 2 and not more than 3 players of category 3. Also a team can not entirely consist of tier 1 and 2 players tier 1 = A here and so on

What do you suggest for team making rules ? How many players of category A, B, C, D would be allowed to be inside a team ?

you might be the judge in case of tier dispute if you pledge to be just

I like that idea, as it allows good balance and relativly free team choice

I think the main challenge will be to finde a good way to schedule games

@HMS-Surprise @Stockfish @ValihrAnt @Feldfeld @borg- @JC (naval supremacist) @badosu @kizitom @ffffffff @PhyZik @Dakara@Dizaka@faction02@carthage@Pudim@Boudica@chrstgtr@randomid@rauls @ffm @go2die @elexis@Wendy22@90 (2 char. names unallowed..)@Unknown_Player and all others

This is more discussion thread, sign up here please As due to corona i had some time to think lately and also there are many players in lobby, i was wondering wether it could be a good time to set up a team tournament. I thought about a league system, to have a result reflecting real player strenght the best. As there might not be many 4-player teams there could be variable team sizes, and the teams would be reduced to the size of the smaller team, or various matches could be played. This would allow more flexibility in time ( there should be timeframes as large as possible anyway). Ofcourse there would be a mechanism to have all team members participating. Still larger team battles could be encouraged by higher reward for example: win 4 vs 4 = 4 points, while win 2 vs 2 = 2 points for team. For balancing there could be maximum average ratings (with exemptions for obviously underrated players like faction02. I dont believe making teams artificially would raise intrest in participating, and personal sympathy might allow more advanced team strategies which would add to the entertainment value and the level. It would highlight a different set of skills also like communication and encourages beeing a team player. Also banning civs and making rules to choose different civs within team or both teams even ? might be a enriching concept. Also there could be 2 leagues of lower and higher level including something like a promotion system ( depending on the amount of teams. I would enjoy to organize something along those lines, but i want to see wether there is intrest first and encourage further discussion on the matter. There could also be a thread to find teammmates in forum. Obviously the succes of such an endevour also greatly depends on promotion and people encouraging other people . For now i propose the following rules, which are open for discussion. For making it more easy to find teams and let friends play with each other i have tried to make the tier system not too complicated, but you may suggest otherwise. I will make a more nice graphic if the version is final A. Team making rules. §1. You must register a team of at least 2 but optimally 4 players by teamname and players. Participating with fake accounts is not allowed and causes disqualification of the player aswell as loss of all point of the team acquired from games involving the player in question §2. I.Your team must have not more than one tier 1 player and two tier 1 and 2 players or 3 tier 2 players II.Your team can not consist entirely of tier 1 and 2 players §3. During the tournament you can add players to your team by official announcement and without violation of §§ 1,2. Also players can leave, but not join another team during the tournament. B. Points §4. For a victory a team gets 3 points. For each player less then 4 the team gets 1 point less ( 3 Players = 3-1 = 2 points) 2 Players is the minimum Team size C. Matchmaking §5. The games take place at Sunday19.00 CET. You can agree with the weekly opponent to an alternative time. The time has to be posted to forum and both teams have to show agreement. §6. If a team shows up with less then 4 players the other team must choose players amongst their team to play a 2v2 or 3v3. The team that showed up with all 4 players does not get reduced points as described in §4.I. ( Best to provide screenshot in case of argument). If a team is registered with less then 4 players the opponent team is only required to show up with a matching number of players. §7. Each team can ban 2 civs for the enemy team. All team members must chose different civs. Teammates are allowed as specs. Otherwise no specs are allowed. Exemptions can me made for the purpose of streaming or recording the match for commentary D. Tournament System §8. The tournament has the format of a league System. Each team plays against each other team once. The team with the most points wins. E. Gameplay Rules §9. The matches are played on: (balanced) mainland, lake, river, continent, fortress, Latium (XXX) The map size is medium for 2v2 matches, otherwise normal. Starting ressources are set to low §10. Hero dancing/luring units as well as formation dancing is not allowed. Dancing single units during fight is also not allowed. Dancing in this context means to make focussed units move extensivly by spamclicking or other methods to avoid getting hit. A violation of that rule means victory for the opponent team. F. After the game §11. The winning teams reports the results to the forum, by stating who won, how many players have participated on each team and the missing players of each team. §12. Tier list: Tier 1 players are: borg, ValihrAnt, Feldfeld, (Stockfish?) Tier 2 players are: chrstgtr, jc, fpre, Phyzic. Boudica, Rauls, Unknown Player, ffm, nani, 90 Decger, faction02, Schweinepriester, wendy, or players of clearly at least similiar play strenght. ( make suggestions for this list if you want, but dont extend it too much)