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Why waiting? It works. If you need guidance installing, np.

Alembic: sent you a PM

Np. I only jumped in cuz "sudo" in home folder isn't only a bad habit, but can do funny things to ownership of files

..the current A17 version is definitely buggy,.. There is no problem at all with a17. Use the svn version, not that dev PPA, which is not up-to-date. http://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/BuildInstructions

First, deactivate your dev PPA and use the normal PPA. apt-get --purge autoremove 0ad sudo apt-get clean sudo rm -rf /home/{username}/.config/0adsudo rm -rf /home/{username}/.local/share/0ad sudo apt-get install 0adHrm, no, let me improve this: sudo apt-get purge 0adsudo add-apt-repository -r ppa:wfg/0ad.devsudo add-apt-repository ppa:wfg/0adsudo apt-get updaterm -rf ~/.config/0adrm -rf ~/.local/share/0adsudo apt-get install 0ad

Hi all. Since feature freeze for a17 is in 4 days, and normally release is a week later, I urgently ask you to install the developer version of 0ad. There are big changes in the next release, the game got huge rebalancing and new tech trees. Though scythe' balance branch (which got merged with a17) got tested lots of hours by a few players, its important that as many players as possible test the developer version before release. Before a16 this was not the case, as a result we got a buggy a16. So, please have a look at the instructions for getting the developer version: http://trac.wildfiregames.com/wiki/BuildInstructions Thanks in advance.. Greets, z_ Linux only: Do not hesitate to ask me (via PM) if you should have problems understanding the svn installation instructions. I will guide you. Otoh, here a quick copy&paste guide for *buntu 14.04: Get build dependencies: sudo apt-get install build-essential libboost-dev libboost-filesystem-dev \ libboost-signals-dev libcurl4-gnutls-dev libenet-dev libgloox-dev \ libicu-dev libjpeg-dev libminiupnpc-dev libmozjs-24-dev libnvtt-dev \ libogg-dev libopenal-dev libpng-dev libsdl-dev libvorbis-dev \ libwxgtk3.0-dev libxcursor-dev libxml2-dev subversion zlib1g-devGet the source (may take 1,2 hours): svn co http://svn.wildfiregames.com/public/ps/trunk/ 0adBuild the stuff: cd 0ad/build/workspacessudo perl -i -pe 's/(^#elif _MSC_VER >= 1600).*/#elif defined(_MSC_VER) && _MSC_VER >= 1600/' /usr/include/mozjs-24/mozilla/NullPtr.h./update-workspaces.sh --with-system-miniupnpc --with-system-nvtt --with-system-mozjs24 -j3cd gccmake -j3Run the game: ~/0ad/binaries/system/pyrogenesis

...create a mod?

Generally it is not the worst idea to have a look at: http://play0ad.com/category/game-manual/

..well, update your svn, then you know

No errors here when placing a building ... revision 15726.

I am glad they do not have their ridiculous short buildtime anymore. And imho they are still op, especially the wall towers ...

Hi. Just ask in the game lobby if you may spectate a game. Spectating decent players is the the best you can do .. or (and) watch a video, eg Tango_'s http://www.wildfiregames.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=15271&p=295218 for a decent buildorder ..

Balance branch finally got merged (big "tnx" to scythe) into svn (a17). So, pls play svn, only 1 week left until feature freeze.....

google says: If a pull hung up, it will not write any changes to your filesystem. This is because, if it would, your local repository would not be in a stable state. There is no way to resume a pull/clone. So your only choice is to pull/clone again.

"Tech transition is mostly over. Please test the impacts of these new techs. Please test the merge20140902 branch for bugs in the bleeding edge version." Instructions: git fetch originalgit checkout merge20140902and recompile if on Linux. The newest changes: Fortress minimum distance increased: Now 80m instead of 60m. Tower minimum distance increased: Now 60m instead of 50m. Tower arrow range decreased: Now 56m instead of 57m. (@scythe: intention or typo? ) New techs for towers: New arrow range increase tech for towers: +8m at cost of 500W/250M New tower armor increase tech at cost of 500W/500M/500S First thought, after short test: Like this. Especially the increased fortress minimum distance (+33%) is great, cuz it nerfs the "fortress_forward_tactics". Also "tower_forwarding" now costs money (the new tower arrow reach increase tech), since without that tech a tower cannot cover another with arrows.

Mission accomplished. After hours of testing, I want to summarize: 1. A16ish horsegame is successfully eliminated. 2. Hardcounters not missing; beginners of 0ad will enjoy it, no need to learn them. 3. New blacksmith techtree is ok. Think its not extremely relevant for balancing anyway, more a gameplay question. Also depends on map(size) and resources. What I would change: 1. Walkspeed. Just decrease it a little again. 2. Civilcenters are a little strong (in village phase) due to arrow range/rate. Just decrease it a little again. Thats it. Merge it at last ..

New Blacksmith Tech Tree Apparantly there is some discussion needed regarding the new techtree, cuz scythe needs feedback. Please only comment if you tested it, means you play scythe' balance branch. Overview of all blacksmith techs available for all (afaik) civs: Town phase: +20% attack for melee inf 500F/500W/250I/250S 40sec +20% attack for ranged inf 500F/500W/250I/250S 40sec +20% attack for melee cav 500F/750W/350I 40sec +20% attack for ranged cav 500F/750W/350I 40sec +1 hack & pierce armor for all inf 1000W/350I 40sec +1 hack & pierce armor for all cav 1000W/350I 40sec City phase: +20% attack for melee inf 500F/500W/450I/250S 40sec +20% attack for ranged inf 500F/500W/350I/250S 40sec +20% attack for melee cav 500F/500W/500I 40sec +20% attack for ranged cav 500F/500W/500I 40sec +1 hack & pierce armor for all inf 1000W/450I 40sec +1 hack & pierce armor for all cav 1000W/450I 40sec +2 hack & pierce armor for heroes, but + 50% metal cost 600I 40sec Happy testing...

No linux version?

a16? Afaik you need a17 (svn) ...

It's a new feature. Atm it's not a mod downloading screen, it is a mod selection screen. Just select 0ad, hit enable, and start the game on the bottom of screen.

why do I have the idea that this (sigh, again) leads to nothing at all ....

A few thoughts: Not so easy to create that excel file. Mythos -reverted- changes have been (afair) huge. Many changes affect each other, so its hard to rate a single change. Also the players skill is important. Spoken for me, I am in fact kinda noob; though playing svn and sbb for hours, my thoughts/ratings about balance differences might be pretty useless due to much less experience in rts games in general. There was a discussion to start a tournament in svn (aimed at bughunting before a17 release) in the forum. Maybe thats a way to start? This tournament could be enlarged to the balance branches, players had to install svn, sbb and mbb. Then players could vote/discuss for features/changes. On the other hand, since svn doesn't differ in balancing compared to a16 so much, it might be less work if scythe would merge his branch to svn. svn anyway should be tested before feature freeze by as many players as possible, so its np to rate the balancing changes too while bughunting. I yet dunno if the mergecandidate branch contents huge changes like the taken out hardboni and formations. This might even be more a design than a balancing question, though the hardboni in fact fight unbalancing. There is also a document by alpha123 about hardbonus in general: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1PxeSahVf5J6h32jy2iqTHlnogtQSHPocXKqNSspyMUs/edit?pli=1 Back to that excel document: Maybe start with a list of players which agree to install svn and sbb (if there will be no merge in near future)? Imho we urgently need more players, tau already asked how to achieve this; maybe the mods/devs could create kinda official thread appealing to join (besides guerilla advertisement in a16 lobby/irc)?

I think this idea is better realised in a general feature/gameplay thread. It is important that existing balance changes are not only rated by reading, but by testing. Means: Install and play the balance branch and install and play svn/a17, as scythe said in the 1rst post of this thread: Though please try to refrain from making balance criticisms until you've played a couple multiplayer games so that everyone is on the same page.

Each branch has its own lobby. Otherwise there would be a nice oos party ...