@user1@Dunedan(not sure if quote is needed) Ofender: Xmax Reason: after a fail rush end the game without resigning   metadata.json commands.txt

Wow, you sure do love to troll. Those are some pretty funny ways to mess with people, I especially love the spamming houses one and the "enjoying the weather" one. About scouting... AI should need to scout, Petra doesn't.

It certainly optimal to have historical accuracy and to be able to seize the opportunity to teach history, however the more important thing is to teach game mechanics. Over the course of the discussion we decided it'd be best to focus mostly on imparting the game mechanics while giving it a touch of history.  For the other campaigns they will be 10000000% grounded in history. However, I  think it's best for the tutorial to focus on teaching the new player how to play and not having the player have to figure out the mechanics of 0 A.D. while also keeping up with a historical narrative.

@Vantha@ShadowOfHassen well it seems I was going for historical accuracy when historical ambiguity was decided, which I find suboptimal since it misses the opportunity of teaching history. That's why I was thinking for each scenario to be specific historical events, like Hamilcar gaining control of the gold and silver mines of Sierra Morena, subduing certain Iberian tribes, and expanding to the east, for people to learn more things besides Hasdrubal and the (re)founding of Carthago Nova. At least these things are what I find interesting in historically themed RTS. I agree with not doing “the great commanders a bit of a disservice if you scale them back for a beginners tutorial”, but that's the opposite of what I proposed with the prelude concept (in case a proper Hannibal campaign was also wanted).

To me we already had this discussion like 20 different times . Ultimately, we wanted a short tutorial that was stand alone and historically ambiguous. We wanted it short so if campaigns weren’t someone’s cup of tea, they could get in , learn the basics, and then do multiplayer. The historical ambiguity was so that we had freedom to prioritize teaching game mechanics without justifying every little thing. Also the simple fact is that @Vantha has already started on the maps. He’s willing to put in most of the work (unlike me who while I say I’m willing to work honestly is kinda busy /lazy and don’t) so he does get final say. The last thing is honestly those other campaigns should be separate , they could be beginner campaigns or sequels to the tutorial , but I honestly think it does the great commanders a bit of a disservice if you scale them back for a beginners tutorial (face it , Petra has a steep learning curve and it’s need to be set on very easy or sandbox so that beginners aren’t steamrolled. Not very fun for Alexander the Great or Hannibal then I think.)