well for people who know what to look for its extremely obvious in game, but none of this is visible before game start. My main concern is not detection but wanting to play a clean game. Somehow its the duty of 7 players in a tg host to agree that progui is banned and no responsibility falls on the person using the cheat, naturally it is very rare to get 7 players who are even aware of the advantage that progui provides so most people would rather just start the game.
There are a couple hosts than ban it, most players are unaware of it and users do not mention that they have it. Just because progui users are getting away with it doesn't mean that its fair. I don't use progui because I enjoy the game and have dignity.
I see nothing other than mentions of ProGUI and Quickstart. The other cheats discussed in November have been patched up.
I wont argue whether proGUI is cheat or not. If you feel that ProGUI and Quickstart are cheats, you can use it yourself. As far as I know, no host bans ProGUI nor Quickstart. You are always welcome to use them in my host.