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Hello everyone, and Happy Easter! First of all, I am happy to announce that Hyrule Conquest: Revival has been updated to 0 A.D. version R28. In addition to the update, there is a whole ton of new stuff, including factions, features, maps, and more... First off, Gohma are a swarm faction, meaning they specialize in training hundreds of weak and squishy units and overwhelming the enemy with sheer numbers. As you can tell from the pictures, the Gohma are a mix of the old and new designs, using the original organic structures and the redesigned Gohma units. The Lizalfos function very different from the other factions. When you start a match as them, you pick between one of four gods, each of whom gives you different units, structures, and technologies. They range from stealth focused (Farosh), to poison and disease focused (Okra), to war and battle focused (Dinrall), to ranged and hunting focused (Dodalagon), so they have lots of variety. The Moblins are an extemely mobile faction. All of their buildings (except their wonder) can pack up and be moved somewhere else, allowing them to move to a completely different area. They also have access to all of their units and techs to start, making them a strong early game faction. The Sheikah Cadre are back! They are extremely stealthy, with the majority of their units having Stealth or Camouflage. They are also very Creature heavy, and have a lot of Dodge. While they have less units compared to most of the other civs, they are very heavy damage dealers. The Zora Dominion are finally done! Though they are lacking Aqueducts, they otherwise function and are completely playable. They are very magic heavy, with lots of mage units. They are also (just like Lanayru Province and the Wild Zora) completely aquatic, allowing them to swim across lakes and oceans. In addition, there are also major changes to Labrynna. I have redone them again, removing their structure upgrades. They now only have their steampunk buildings, which was done mainly so that they function with the AI without making extensive changes to Hyrule Bot. I have also added two new features to the Deku Kingdom: Mad Scrub is back! When a Deku Scrub is slain, it has a chance to spawn a Mad Scrub, who will go on a rampage killing everything in sight. For the first time in the histoy of Hyrule Conquest, the Deku have a navy! They have three boats, which use turreting to transport units, as well as a dock to build them from. You can expect more navies in the future... I have added Dodge into the game. When a unit with Dodge is attacked with a melee attack, they have a chance to dodge it (this will be added to the GUI in the future). Stealth and Camouflage are finally fixed! Now enemy units that are stealthed or camouflaged are invisible to the naked eye. Note that cheats that reveal the map and that ticking the Revealed Map option in the Game Setup page break this feature. Automatic Resource Draining is now in. This is a pretty minor feature, which is at the moment only used by the Gohma Recycler structure. Spawning on Interval is in! This is another smaller feature, but will be used mainly by the Gohma (who now auto spawn some units) and by Gaia for map enemies. Garrison Spawning is also in! Most buildings no longer have an automatic attack. Instead, at the start of the game a group of basic archers are turreted in every civil center. These units cannot be removed from the turret, though they can be killed as normal. These same buildings no longer spawn nits when destroyed, which fixes some gameplay problems. Now, thanks to some code from Toby Dustin, when a faction is defeated, any surviving units defect to an ally, making team games of Regicide much more interesting. Finally, and perhaps the most anticipated feature by most, Knockback is finally in! Many large units and siege weapons can now knoc units back when they attack, causing absolute chaos. Many of these units are also immune or resistant to Knockback, due to their size. This has been wanted for a long time, so I hope y'all are happy now! We have reached the point where it's time to split from vanilla 0 A.D. map-wise. The vanilla maps are no longer playable. I know some people probably are dissapointed by this, but it's for the best, as many vanilla maps have vanilla units that mess up gamelay, appearence, and lore. To help counter the sudden lack of maps, 4 new maps are in (all of them 4 player maps): Gerudo Desert: Day, Gerudo Desert: Night, Tarm Ruins, and Zora River. There have been several GUI changes, including adding a Manual (currently incomplete) and new music. Finally, there have been lots of balancing changes not already listed, including: - Stalfos units are no longer immune to Pierce damage. - Minor Factions are now researched at the Market before they can be built. - Ordona has a new hero: The Resistance, who is trained by Ashei. - Markets now provide a trickle of Rupees. - Labrynna's cannons and guns are slightly more balanced, at least among themselves. And now for some news: After almost 8 months working on this project, I have almost updated every faction and feature from the original Hyrule Conquest. All that is left is to update the Plot system, which will open the way for redesigns of the Kokiri, Lanayru, and Gorons, as well as the promotion of the Darknut Legion to a Major Faction. Because of how much has been updated, as well as some personal projects, production will slow from now on. You can expect monthly releases, in which I will be adding navies, maps, campaigns, and of course lots of balancing. During this time, I also hope to add the Plots and Darknuts mentioned above. I also hope to, as time goes on add new factions, including the Guardians, Ikana, and Twili, as well as add new features, including Burrowing, Unit Abilities, and a Campaign Map. I also hope to improve the AI, so that it fully functions with all of the civilizations. Don't take all of this the wrong way, I am not retiring from the mod, nor am I taking a break or stepping down as project leader. I will still work on it, albiet at a slower pace as I add brand new features and art into the game. Y'all can download the mod here: https://www.moddb.com/mods/hyrule-conquest-revival/downloads/hyrule-conquest-revival-0121 Until next month, enjoy!

Thank you for all replies: - version of game: Feb 16, 2026 (release-0-28.0, a2cae) - It worked before with the same connection but just few times (provider was changed 1 week prior to issue) - Name of provider: T-mobile Austria - Tested with another provider (A1), same issue - There is just one ISRG (ISRG Root X1) - Latest windows updates performed I hope this information helps.

@Atrik@guerringuerrin I tried many times, but can't reproduce it. Once I thought I did it, but in the replay I saw that a couple of "farmers" weren't farmers, just standing on farms. I wonder if this what happened to me 2 or 3 times before, and since most other workers were chopping wood, I assumed that's where the "missing farmers" went (when actually they were idle somewhere, as before the alarm).

Yes, I think this behavior is quite appropriate. And I don’t think it’s worth over-optimizing this behavior. If there are no nearby buildings to garrison in, having units stay idle where they are seems like the most appropriate outcome. Players should be responsible for ensuring there are enough nearby buildings for units to take shelter. Otherwise, keeping them idle is actually helpful, since it makes it easier to quickly select them using the idle hotkey. Short video of this. I don’t see any civilians switching resources after the bell. Not even those who garrison in buildings with rally points set to other resources. ringbell.mp4

Possible. You haven't provided a replay so we're only working with hypothesis. What I described could have mislead you into thinking the units chopping wood were initially farmers. The maximum distance units travel to garrison seems a bit normal. You don't want units to travel half the map if they don't find any hides close enough. Maybe there is way to optimize the behavior however, with better sorting by distance for example. Also the input to ring the alarm is rather limiting...

I’ve noticed that when there are no buildings available for garrison, civilians just stay idle where they are. However, I haven’t verified whether this happens because there are no buildings close enough for them to detect, or because there are no available buildings at all. What I’m fairly sure about is that units do not switch to gathering a different resource. In other words, if they were farming, they will try to resume farming rather than moving to gather wood.

But, if I understand correctly, that doesn't seem to be the issue @Atrik, the issue is having less people in farms at the end of the alarm because they go to the trees instead.

They can be though, since there is that flood map where the water rises, so maybe it’s possible to change the sky colors in the future?

Didn't recheck but my experience debugging UnitAI tells me that what probably happened was: Your units were actually chopping wood on a woodline further from garrisonable buildings You call alarm so they move all the way into the buildings The exacts trees they were chopping disappeared (chopped by other units : your soldiers) You ring end of alarm so they try to go back to chopping wood, but since the trees they initially were chopping are no longer there, they search new trees, but relative to their own position. Making your civilians start chopping trees at a different place as they were supposed to. Just a likely hypothesis and note for myself (or anyone) when I'll work UnitAI, since that would be fixable.

Is there any reason for the construction panel to be basically 2 long lines of 10 icons, a 3rd line with a few icons, and a last empty line, all with no apparent organisation? It doesn’t look good for someone new to the game (that was my first impression). Maybe the first 3 rows could be used for “normal” structures (those that civs tend to have in common), where icons would have a fixed place, and the last row for “special” ones (unique, or almost, and the wonder). The 1st row could be (mostly!) economic structures (resource oriented), the 2nd civil (what's left at the end, even when techs can influence military things, etc), and the 3rd military (that produce units that do damage, or do damage themselves). The 4th row would be ordered first with economic, then civil and then military structures. This looks better and also the fixed places on the first 3 rows help noticing fast what a civilisation has or lacks, in combination with checking the last row. Here I’m showing an image with the “template” on the upper left, and 8 civilisations as examples (did it weeks ago, so for R27).

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@Emacz was asking me about slinger's shields, this is my answer, which could be interesting for some: Most people who could carry some sort of shield did, even animal hides, but it's a matter of how much stats would change. Besides, units were never as uniform as in a game, one just simplifies the most common ideas on them. Strabo (writing at the time of the game) says: "Although naturally disposed to peace, they bear the reputation of being most excellent slingers, which art they have been proficient in since the time that the Phoenicians possessed the islands. It is said that these were the first who introduced amongst the men [of the Baleares] the custom of wearing tunics with wide borders. They were accustomed to go into battle naked, having a shield covered with goat-skin in their hand, and a javelin hardened by fire at the point, very rarely with an iron tip, and wearing round the head three slings of black rush, hair, or sinew. The long sling they use for hitting at far distances, the short one for near marks, and the middle one for those between. From childhood they were so thoroughly practised in the use of slings, that bread was never distributed to the children till they had won it by the sling." Slingers could use a shield, having one hand mostly free, but that's useful when skirmishing close to the enemy, which is a role already taken by the javelineers (although one does more crush damage, the other pierce). In a simplified game, you want the slingers to do something else: slinging from the longest range. You can always just move the slinger closer for shorter range, but because of that would you want to add some shields in the animations to be that historically accurate? And also the javelin as a secondary weapon? Maybe, but stats shouln't change that much, and you also want to make units as differentiated as possible, not to confuse the player. It's also a matter of looking at the whole equipment: -Slingers: could have carried small shields, but couldn't use much armor (because of how the weapon is operated), slings are the easiest to carry, and munitions you can get easily (less so for lead). -Javelineers: most probably carried small shields, given their shorter range, but they also needed to be mobile because of that, so didn't carry much armor. -Archers: some apparently carried small shields, but coud use more armor, so makes sense to make them a bit slower. Not all javelineers were the same, not all archers were the same, each had what they could afford. -Crossbowmen: not necessarily all used large shields in all situations, but you either simplify and choose some representative units, or will have a plethora of options, most of which won't be convenient to even train.

I could be wrong, but it could be that they garrisoned on buildings that were closer to trees than to farms.

No inconsistencies there, since κώμη doesn't translate preferentially as home and house. Not my point, but that þurpą not meaning village could have been, although I don’t think much can be said about that, since it only appears once. Then you say (or repeat) that, because Lehmann point rests entierly on his incorrect ordering of ON and OE, and, again, from the ON incorrect meaning he states. Not true (if you keep referring to it as a single farm), þurpą appears only once in Gothic, and, yet again, ON states the opposite, why dismiss my ON dictionary quote?: So, your whole argument seems to rest on two quite weak points: 1. For Gothic, þaurp appears only once, thus not much can be really concluded. Haimaz appears multiple times as village and at least once as country, and wīhsą at least 6 times as village and at least 4 times as country. The country/countryside/farmlands discussion is totally irrelevant and not even the point (for a change). It’s not about farmland/country, but about how rural they are with respect to villages. I don’t care about wīhsą, the point is that you can’t rely just on Gothic, otherwise wīhsą would seem even more rural than haimaz, according to your own criteria and opposite of your own proposal. 2. The next attested instance of a þurpą cognate is in 725 OE, meaning village. Later on in OE and OHG it kept being used for “hamlet, village, farm, or estate”. For OHG, any spurious dictionary shift right in the 8th century cannot be just extrapolated back a thousand years supposedly unchanged. Heim being an older ending doesn’t mean it didn’t also mean all the other things every source states it meant, nor does it imply that the ancestor of dorf was an individual farm because it wasn’t used earlier as a place ending, as the multiple sources I’ve mentioned previously clearly state (just quoted one yet again explicitly stating how it was originally applied, and its etymological sense). Thus, sources show that haimaz was used in many different ways, while þurpą and wīhsą were more similar between them. And it’s clear already that Germanic hamlets were a bunch of cottages, farmsteads, estates, whatever one wants to call them, nitpicking on this point is a useless byzantine discussion. Those who put together the Proto-Germanic dictionary knew their sources, including (especially) the Gothic Bible, and heim/dorf/whatever endings. You have to explain why you think they didn’t.

I never seen this before. It might be worth to test it

That's what I do, and some of my farmers ended chopping wood. @wowgetoffyourcellphone, I don't think it's because of the rally point, because most of my farmers continued farming, while just some ended chopping wood, and had to put them on farms again. Seems something weird is going on.

You could do that although from a practical point of view I think it makes a littler less sense. If you research a technology, wont every unit that does that particular chore want to use the newest technology? Or you could do each phase (as game progress) soldiers gather rate reduces. I think this might be a little more practical, as they become more accustomed to fighting their will to work as laborers decreases?

Use the "End Alarm" button / hotkey (if it exists). It will make garrisoned Civilians go back to the work they did previously. Dunno if it works on Citizen Soldiers. In any case, killed cattle should count toward your maximum cattle until they are fully eaten up. Tbh I find it rather annoying as it mostly just adds a tiny detail you need to consider to optimize your BO, while adding little depth otherwise.

Forbidden thread!! I’d love to see what’s inside Wasn’t there rot in A23? I think I remember seeing it in some earlier version. I imagine the balance team must have some explanation. Same for the capturing siege feature From my POV, it would make sense to reintroduce rotting

Tell that to all people who answered that thread

I don't see how this is such a "huge" concern unless we try it.

IIRC we didn't not add rotting and fattening because the balance was a huge concern. Initially I had both, and you add to keep your sheep next to the corral aura so they would produce more food.

Well, I don't know exactly how the code works, but when workers are done building, they keep building other stuff, when the are done cutting a tree, they keep cutting other trees... can't tasks also be kept when garrisoned? After all, their HP is kept, so there's some sort of memory going on... EDIT: what I mean is, tasks at the time of sounding an alarm should override rally points. Or at least for that to be an option.

How is the game supposed to know that you don't want those units to go to your chosen rally point?