Mesoamerican Fauna and Flora

[Lion.Kanzen]

The most common trees that were in my trip to the province of Choluteca, Do you remember it looks a lot like the Forest in Oaxaca.

 

Most trees are made up of pine and oak.

Another photo courtesy of me where you can see how it looks when it's dry most of the year.

 

Part of the earth that is very dust-like and quite fine, someone could easily fall off.

 

There was a lot of dead dry leaf that appears to be from Oak apparently and from some other trees.

 

how you can see this type of forest is common in Central America, what happens is that it depends on the climate where you are, if it is humid like the ones the other trip showed you or if it is dry like in the one in or if it's humid like the other trip I took near my city.

 

But basically everything looks like southern Mexico in the Pacific.

 

The locations where I went is very similar to where the Hernán Cortés series was filmed.

Here is our driest and hottest season of the year in this part of the world.

 

So the Pacific area is as dry as Oaxaca in Mexico, it is probably a little different in that they can have a slightly more diverse forest that I am showing in the photos.

 

But if you can see that the type of terrain here in Mesoamerica is in the dry parts, it is different from what you can imagine from watching the Mayan movies.

 

 

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

To finish supporting the information that I am giving you I will leave the following link

https://www.lifeder.com/bosque-de-pino-encino/

Pine=pino.

 Pine is a fairly common tree in Central and Mesoamerica and I think the variety is quite wide at least I can visually see two types, one that is similar to the one in Europe and And another that is equal to the national tree of my country.

So it is common for there to be oak where there is pine because it seems that there is a kind of symbiosis.

 

At least that's what the article highlights, in Spanish.

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

How can you see there are many types of pine there is one that the shape is exactly what is in the game.

The other is also found in Mesoamerica, the pine is a symbol of my country because of how common it is here, but I do not doubt that in Mexico Guatemala and El Salvador it is common.

Name of the other kind of pine that is necessary to design in 3D and that cannot be found in the game is:

Pinus Oocarpa 

As you can see, it is common in Oaxaca, Guatemala and the Maya area of Honduras.

 

This kind of pine is only in the new world, it is native from here.

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_oocarpa

 

Edited April 6, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

There are 43 varieties of pines and we present you 12 main shrubs of these species:

 

 

 

Pinus lawsonii – Pino de Lawson.

Pinus jaliscana – Pino de Jalisco.

Pinus occidentalis – Pino español.( Caribbean pine in Haitian and Dominican) 

Pinus tropicalis – Pino Tropical (Cuba)

Pinus cembroides – Pino piñonero mexicano, Piñón. (That one is too north of the Mesoamerican zone)

Pinus strobiformis – Pino blanco de Chihuahua. Another one that is too north of the Mesoamerican zone.

Pinus montezumae – Ocote, Ocote macho, Pino blanco.

 

Pinus leiophylla – Pino de Chihuahua, Ocote, Pino chino.

Pinus oocarpa – Ocote, Ocote chino, Ocote macho.

Pinus hondurensis (sin. P. caribaea var. hondurensis) – Pino de Honduras It is a variation of the Caribbean

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_caribaea

Pinus maximinoi (sin. P. tenuifolia).This grows only in  highlands areas.

Therefore it is not very common.

Pinus pseudostrobus – Pino blanco, Pino ocote.

 

This is important because it is in the Valley of Mexico, and it is in the Mayan zone.

 

 

These are most of the pines exist in Mexico and Central America, Even these are the ones in the Caribbean.

 

https://nuestraflora.com/c-arboles/tipos-de-pinos/#Especies_de_Pinos_mas_famosas_de_Mexico

 

 

Here I will leave other pines that I found in Wikipedia.

Pinus Caribaea

https://es.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinus_caribaea#/media/Archivo%3APinus_caribaea_Morelet_1851_2013_001.jpg

 

This interesting because it is in the Mayan zone of Belize and part of the Mayan zone of influence of Honduras.

Edited April 7, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

Again I went on a trip to the exit of my city, I went to visit UNITEC (Universidad Tecnológica Centroamericana) and I saw several things in the landscape, several rocks and trees, and I took some photos of them.

 

 

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And a record d 2 videos.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 5, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

In Guatemala, where most of the current Mayan groups and ruins are concentrated,The following pine species are the most common.

 

P. ayacahuite

P. setrobus var. chiapensis

P. caribea var. hondurensis

P. hartwegii

P. maximinoi

P. devoniana

P. pseudostrobus

P. montezumae

P. oocarpa

P. tecunumanii

[Lion.Kanzen]

Pinus devoniana is a species of conifer in the family Pinaceae. It is found in more than 15 states of Mexico - from S. Sinaloa to Chiapas - and Guatemala in montane, relatively open pine or pine-oak forests at altitudes from 900 to 2500 m.

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

I went out again to the hot and arid lands of my country.

 

I went to San Marcos in the department of Choluteca.

 

Choluteca has a terrible temperature in summer. but San Marcos is a mountainous place, many meters above sea level.

The weather was 30 ° - 32 ° and at night 16 °

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Edited June 6, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

ignore the palm tree, that is decorative from the locals.

 

I don't know if this is ornamental.

 

Short grass texture looks like this. Near the roads.

The rock texture is like this. This soil is rock on some sides, there is no dirt.

 

 

This is dirt, almost like sand. It is light in color and very fine. 

Edited June 6, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

a little video yesterday afternoon going up the hill.

 

[Duileoga]

Buenos días/tardes ;

-Aunque me centro actualmente en los Lusitanos , en mucha menor media también en los mayas preclásicos y aquí les presento un pequeño catálogo de fauna mesoamericana (centrada en la zona "Maya");

 

Agutí o- Dasyprocta punctata - 

Armadillo o - Dasypodidae 

Ballena Yubarta o -Megaptera novaeangliae - 

boa constrictor

Caimán o - Caiman crocodilus 

calamar o -Teuthida 

cangrejo o - Trichodactylidae 

Ciervo de Virginia 

Cocodrilo centroamericano 

Coendú o  puercoespín tropical , o -Sphiggurus mexicanus 

Corzuelas americanas o - pequeñas mazamas

Flamencos o - Phoenicopterus 

Gato trigre o Margay , o- Leopardus wiedii -(más pequeño y diferente que el ocelote)

Guacamaya Roja o - Ara macao -

iguana

Jaguar 

Jaguar Negro

Jaguarundí o - Herpailurus yagouaroundi cacomitli 

La jaiba o cangrejo azul  , o -Callinectes sapidus 

Loro Cariamarillo  o - Amazona autumnalis 

Manatíes o - Trichechus manatus-

Mantarraya o - Manta birostris -

Mapaches o - Procyon 

Mono araña o - Ateles geoffroyi-

Mono Aullador -Alouatta palliata

Murciélago centroamericano o -Mimon cozumelae (alias; Covid 19)

Nutria de río o -Lontra longicaudis -

Ocelote o - Laopardus pardalis - 

Pavo Ocelado - Guajolote ocelado-

Pelícano o - Pelecanus erythrorhynchos 

Pez Pámpano o -Trachinotus -

Pujuil o faisán real , o - Crax rubra-

pulpo o -  Octopoda -

(un pulpo normal -foto no compatible)

Puma centroamericano o - Puma concolor costaricensis -

Quetzal o - Pharomachrus mocinno - 

Saíno o - Tayassu pecarí-

serpiente nauyaca o -Bothrops asper -

Tamandúa o oso hormiguero selvático , o - Tamandua tetradactyla - 

Tapir centroamericano o -Tapir bairdii-

Tecolote_Búho , o - Glaucidium griseiceps-

Tepezcuintle o - Cuniculus paca-

Tiburón Martillo o - Sphyrna mokarran -

Tiburón Ballena o - Rhincodon typus -

Tiburón Sarda o - Carcharhinus leucas - 

Tortuga blanca o - Dermatemys mawii-

Tucanes o  -Ramphastidae-

zarigüeya centroamericana o Tlacuache , o -Caluromys derbianus -

Zopilote rey o  - Sarcoramphus papa - 

Zopilotes o buitres negros , o - Coragyps atratus -

 

 

 

Disculpen las molestias*

[Lion.Kanzen]

1 hour ago, Duileoga said:

Buenos días/tardes ;

-Aunque me centro actualmente en los Lusitanos , en mucha menor media también en los mayas preclásicos y aquí les presento un pequeño catálogo de fauna mesoamericana (centrada en la zona "Maya");

 

Agutí o- Dasyprocta punctata - 

Armadillo o - Dasypodidae 

Ballena Yubarta o -Megaptera novaeangliae - 

boa constrictor

Caimán o - Caiman crocodilus 

calamar o -Teuthida 

cangrejo o - Trichodactylidae 

Ciervo de Virginia 

Cocodrilo centroamericano 

Coendú o  puercoespín tropical , o -Sphiggurus mexicanus 

Corzuelas americanas o - pequeñas mazamas

Flamencos o - Phoenicopterus 

Gato trigre o Margay , o- Leopardus wiedii -(más pequeño y diferente que el ocelote)

Guacamaya Roja o - Ara macao -

iguana

Jaguar 

Jaguar Negro

Jaguarundí o - Herpailurus yagouaroundi cacomitli 

La jaiba o cangrejo azul  , o -Callinectes sapidus 

Loro Cariamarillo  o - Amazona autumnalis 

Manatíes o - Trichechus manatus-

Mantarraya o - Manta birostris -

Mapaches o - Procyon 

Mono araña o - Ateles geoffroyi-

Mono Aullador -Alouatta palliata

Murciélago centroamericano o -Mimon cozumelae (alias; Covid 19)

Nutria de río o -Lontra longicaudis -

Ocelote o - Laopardus pardalis - 

Pavo Ocelado - Guajolote ocelado-

Pelícano o - Pelecanus erythrorhynchos 

Pez Pámpano o -Trachinotus -

Pujuil o faisán real , o - Crax rubra-

pulpo o -  Octopoda -

(un pulpo normal -foto no compatible)

Puma centroamericano o - Puma concolor costaricensis -

Quetzal o - Pharomachrus mocinno - 

Saíno o - Tayassu pecarí-

serpiente nauyaca o -Bothrops asper -

Tamandúa o oso hormiguero selvático , o - Tamandua tetradactyla - 

Tapir centroamericano o -Tapir bairdii-

Tecolote_Búho , o - Glaucidium griseiceps-

Tepezcuintle o - Cuniculus paca-

Tiburón Martillo o - Sphyrna mokarran -

Tiburón Ballena o - Rhincodon typus -

Tiburón Sarda o - Carcharhinus leucas - 

Tortuga blanca o - Dermatemys mawii-

Tucanes o  -Ramphastidae-

zarigüeya centroamericana o Tlacuache , o -Caluromys derbianus -

Zopilote rey o  - Sarcoramphus papa - 

Zopilotes o buitres negros , o - Coragyps atratus -

 

 

 

Disculpen las molestias*

Hay unos que son mas pequeños que una gallina como la Iguana, que por cierto, hay gente que hace sopa con ellos.

[Duileoga]

25 minutes ago, Lion.Kanzen said:

Hay unos que son mas pequeños que una gallina como la Iguana, que por cierto, hay gente que hace sopa con ellos.

Buenas ;

-En el juego ya existen gallinas y conejos , que son diminutos , pero tiene usted razón e igual serían difíciles de ver o distinguir en un mapa con muchas plantas como son las selvas , seguiré investigando para hallar animales más grandes.

Disculpen las molestias*

[Lion.Kanzen]

28 minutes ago, Duileoga said:

selvas

No todos son selvas. Si ves las fotos que tome es bosque.

 

En las tierras altas de Centroamérica son bosques templados.

[Trinketos]

Creo que para  el guajolote ocelado se puede reutilizar el pavo normal que hice hace rato.

[Trinketos]

Manta birostris

[Trinketos]

[Trinketos]

I'm going to put this around here and slowly get out of here

Manta Birostris.7z

[Lion.Kanzen]

55 minutes ago, Trinketos said:

I'm going to put this around here and slowly get out of here

Manta Birostris.7z 1 MB · 0 downloads

Hice un post para los avances del bioma.

 

 

Edited June 21, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

I have found some photos from other trips (2007)

 

I'm going to show you my last trip on Saturday.

 

How we are in the rainy season.

 

Our forests and mountains are filled with a dense mist.

 

 

 

[Lion.Kanzen]

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enterolobium_cyclocarpum

In North America it is often called elephant-ear tree, due to the shape of the seedpods. Other common names include Devil's ear and earpod tree, parota and orejón (Spanish) or huanacaxtle (Nahuatl). In El Salvador, it is known as conacaste.[2] In the Yucatan peninsula, it is known by the Mayan name, pich. In Panama it is known as a corotú.

Enterolobium cyclocarpum, commonly known as guanacaste, caro caro, monkey-ear tree or elephant-ear tree, is a species of flowering tree in the pea family, Fabaceae, that is native to tropical regions of the Americas, from central Mexico south to northern Brazil (Roraima) and Venezuela.

The guanacaste is a medium-sized to large tree, growing to 25–35 m tall, with a trunk up to 3.5 m in diameter. Unusual in a tree of these proportions, buttresses are completely lacking. The bark is light gray, with prominent dark reddish-brown vertical fissures. In young trees these fissures are closer together. and their confluence lends a characteristic reddish hue to the bark of guanacaste saplings. Older specimens often present broken, chipped or scarred bark.

 

The crown is broad and widely spreading. The height at which branches first occur along the trunk – as well as the overall tree shape – vary considerably among individuals and are habitat-dependent characteristics. Frequently, guanacaste trees grow as single specimens in a sunny pasture. Under these conditions, massive, extended, horizontal limbs emerge low on the boles, forming giant, hemispherical, widely spreading crowns. In the forest (where competition for light is intense) trees tend to become taller, and branching occurs at a higher level. Tree forms then become somewhat narrower, though crowns are still rounded, and hemispherical shapes are maintained by those that have reached the canopy

Photos by me.

I took it the other day I went on trip.

Edited November 9, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

it is common for people to grow palm trees with coconuts.

Another of my photos.

Edited November 9, 2021 by Lion.Kanzen

[Lion.Kanzen]

Ulúa River

 

 

Chamelecon River

 

From 1530, the colonists became the arbiters of power, installing and deposing governors. Spanish government in Honduras was riven by factionalism. As a response to the growing anarchy, the colonists requested that Pedro de Alvarado intervene. Alvarado arrived in 1536, put an end to the political infighting, and gained an important victory over Sicumba, a Maya leader in the Ulúa Valley. Alvarado founded two towns that later became important, San Pedro de Puerto Caballos (later to become San Pedro Sula) and Gracias a Dios.

 

Oviedo reports Guerrero as dead by 1532, when Montejo's lieutenants Avila and Lujón arrived again in Chectumal. Andrés de Cereceda, in a letter to the Spanish King dated August 14, 1536, writes of a battle that occurred in late June 1536 between Pedro de Alvarado and a local Honduran cacique named Çiçumba(Sicumba). The naked and tattooed body of a Spaniard was found dead within Çiçumba's town of Ticamaya after the battle. According to Cereceda, this Spaniard had come over with 50 war-canoes from Chetumal early in 1536, to help Çiçumba fight the Spanish who were attempting to colonize his lands. The Spaniard was killed in the battle by an arquebus shot. Although Cereceda says the Spaniard was named Gonzalo Aroca, R. Chamberlain and other historians writing about the event identify the man as Gonzalo Guerrero. Guerrero was likely 66 years old when he died.

 

In July of 1531, Captain Dávila left with a force towards the place that today is Chetumal, where they supposed that Guerrero lived and there were gold mines; however he found a place in abandonment and although later he takes some Mayan prisoners, they deceive him saying that Gonzalo Guerrero had died of natural form, reason why Dávila sends reports to Montejo in Campeche on the supposed death. In reality, he died in 1536 when he was facing the troops of Captain Lorenzo de Godoy to help, with fifty canoes, Cicumba, Tolupan cacique of the town of Ticamaya (Honduras), in the lower valley of the Ulúa River.[19] A crossbow arrow stuck right in his navel and pierced him to his side, where he was mortally wounded by an arquebus shot. His men carried him off the battlefield and hid him behind some palm trees. He asked his closest friends to take care of his children and the rest of his men, more than a thousand, to continue fighting. They had to retreat and Guerrero's corpse was left in the enemy camp. It is said that some Spaniards later claimed to have seen him: tattooed and dressed like an Indian (Native), but bearded. During the night, some of his men rescued his body and as a last tribute, they threw him into the Ulúa River, so that the current would take him to the ocean from where he came.